No cops in four South Kashmir districts as protests rage

[Taimoor Khan]

This Post Don't have any Strategic Importance Its already Covered from three Sides


If you are talking about point 5353,then let me clarify that point 5353 and 3 other points(4875,4251,5240) were disputed at best,according to other sources they were on Pakistani side of LOC.Indian Army during Kargil tried to take all those 4 points and successfully took the other three points,except point 5353. Later the local commanders of PA and IA decided to leave all those 4 points unoccupied.Then IA in october that year decided to re occupy its other 3 points and PA re occupied its 5353 point. During the Kargil War,Grenadines despatch specifically mentions point 5353 as a minor objective.

Point 5353 is surrounded by three Indian posts, including Point 5240 and any action from there would be neutralised Point 4875,4251,5240


Google Earth Far from drass sector

Child your Mard- e-momin Captured 140 + Peaks in Kargil *** We Kicked them From all
Now your Boasting holding one peak Which lies on LOC Which is on Radar by indian artillery Positions From Three sides What Fail

HA HA HA, so now from point 5353 not Indian territory, you are have now admitted that Pakistanis are still occupying it. if tomorrow Pakistanis raise their flags over red fort, you lot are going to disowe Delhi as well. Point 5353 give us advantage and we can do another kargil at the time our own picking and choice. Your Indian commanders are not idiots like yourself otherwise they wouldnt have put 13 men to get slaughtered in trying to "recapture" this strategic point. They have tried many times over and failed in each attempt. It is the HIGHEST point in the area and with Pakistan sitting on top of it, can easily hit the Indian positions with impunity.

Son, listen to me carefully what I am saying to you. We came inside your controlled territory, spanked you hard, and when our hearts were content, we went back to our lands while holding on to strategic heights which will give us advantage if we have to do another kargil in future. In response, you lot havent grown the balls to challenge Pakistan militarily in any shape or form. Cold start, as funky as it may sound, is another bollywood delusion being feed to gullible Indian minds which has been put in cold freezer by Pakistan even before it can be implemented. Kargil was our cold start, been there done that. While you lot are still dwelling on empty rhetoric and licking your wounds inflicted decade and half ago. Rather wasting your time here and embarrassing yourself, do your randi rona infront of your country military high ups and dare them to do a kargil on Pakistani territory. Talk is cheap.

 

[NKVD]

HA HA HA, so now from point 5353 not Indian territory, you are have now admitted that Pakistanis are still occupying it. if tomorrow Pakistanis raise their flags over red fort, you lot are going to disowe Delhi as well. Point 5353 give us advantage and we can do another kargil at the time our own picking and choice. Your Indian commanders are not idiots like yourself otherwise they wouldnt have put 13 men to get slaughtered in trying to "recapture" this strategic point. They have tried many times over and failed in each attempt. It is the HIGHEST point in the area and with Pakistan sitting on top of it, can easily hit the Indian positions with impunity.

Son, listen to me carefully what I am saying to you. We came inside your controlled territory, spanked you hard, and when our hearts were content, we went back to our lands while holding on to strategic heights which will give us advantage if we have to do another kargil in future. In response, you lot havent grown the balls to challenge Pakistan militarily in any shape or form. Cold start, as funky as it may sound, is another bollywood delusion being feed to gullible Indian minds which has been put in cold freezer by Pakistan even before it can be implemented. Kargil was our cold start, been there done that. While you lot are still dwelling on empty rhetoric and licking your wounds inflicted decade and half ago. Rather wasting your time here and embarrassing yourself, do your randi rona infront of your country military high ups and dare them to do a kargil on Pakistani territory. Talk is cheap.

You Like Child

google Search Kid where Point 5353 lies Don't waste time

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Haha looks like you are now moaning like a roadside drug dealer who just got his a$$ busted by police.

More like a don. Keep on squealing lass, I am enjoying this .

You Like Child

google Search Kid where Point 5353 lies Don't waste time

Now google will tell me where point 5353 is, where as from all records, actions/reactions of Indian forces and their media specially, their own records, their desperation to "regain" point 5353, clearly and emphatically leave no doubt that its was a Indian controlled territory which is now occupied by Pakistan of extreme strategic importance.

You are acting like a sissy little girl, go and bloody read your own posted "Indian" links. End of.

 

[NKVD]

More like a don. Keep on squealing lass, I am enjoying this .



Now google will tell me where point 5353 is, where as from all records, actions/reactions of Indian forces and their media specially, their own records, their desperation to "regain" point 5353, clearly and emphatically leave no doubt that its was a Indian controlled territory which is now occupied by Pakistan of extreme strategic importance.

You are acting like a sissy little girl, go and bloody read your own posted "Indian" links. End of.

Why regain When it ha no Strategic value pointed out by Army
It covered by three sides by india It Much like stale mate

 

[Jamwal's]

Now google will tell me where point 5353 is, where as from all records, actions/reactions of Indian forces and their media specially, their own records, their desperation to "regain" point 5353, clearly and emphatically leave no doubt that its was a Indian controlled territory which is now occupied by Pakistan of extreme strategic importance.

You are acting like a sissy little girl, go and bloody read your own posted "Indian" links. End of.

Funny definition of Pakistani victory. 5353 lies on LOC (it was with pak till 1971) , Musharaaf started Kargil misadventure in order to gain Siachen not pt 5353 but after loosing 500 ~ troops (officially) - Gained nothing.

There were 140 peaks where kargil war took place, so who controlled them now - Go Figure.



And all these peaks were forcefully annexed by India in 1971 and forced Pakistan to sign Shimla Agreement converting Cease fire line into LOC.

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http://www.dawn.com/news/1069510

In October 1947, following the announcement of Kashmir’s accession to India, the Gilgit Scouts, a predominantly Muslim force raised by the British for internal security, revolted against the Dogras, and in a series of daring actions in1948 captured Kargil, Drass, Zoji La Pass and Skardu. However, in November 1948, Zoji La Pass and Kargil were recaptured by the Indians while the Kargil heights remained with the Gilgit Scouts.

During the Rann of Kutch conflict, these heights were captured by the Indians for the first time on May 17, 1965, for use as a bargaining counter in the negotiations. As a result of the agreement reached, the heights were returned to Pakistan in June 1965. In the first week of August 1965, Operation Gibraltar was launched. One of the areas used by the infiltrating force was the Kargil heights. To block these routes, the Indians captured the heights for the second time in the third week of August 1965. But after the signing of the Tashkent Agreement, the heights were once again returned to Pakistan.

On the outbreak of war on the western front on December 3, 1971, the Indians captured the heights for the third time on December 9, 1971. This time, however, they retained the heights in line with the Shimla Agreement under which the violable Cease Fire Line (CFL), created in December 1948 on cessation of hostilities in Kashmir, was converted into an inviolable Line of Control (LoC), on the basis of actual possession of territory at the time of the ceasefire in December 1971. When the Indians captured the heights on three different occasions, the Pakistani force that was overwhelmed, consisted mostly of lightly armed, inadequately equipped Karakoram and Gilgit Scouts, both paramilitary outfits.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Why regain When it ha no Strategic value pointed out by Army
It covered by three sides by india It Much like stale mate

Coverd by three side on lower elevation? LOL. like sitting ducks. Do you understand the significance of the "HIGHEST" point in that region?

 

[NKVD]

Coverd by three side on lower elevation? LOL. like sitting ducks. Do you understand the significance of the "HIGHEST" point in that region?

Pure Bull shit please highest point in region is tiger hill please put elevation of point 5353 to prove your point

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Funny definition of Pakistani victory. 5353 lies on LOC, Pakistanis started Kargil misadventure in order to gain Siachen but after loosing 500 plus troops (officially) - Gained nothing.

There were 140 peaks where kargil war took place, so who controlled them now - Go Figure.



And all these peaks were forcefully annexed by India in 1971 and forced Pakistan to sign Shimla Agreement converting Cease fire line into LOC.

Internet fanboys like yourself will try to prove all day long that 5353 lies on LOC however your military commanders were/are desparate to "regain" it. You try to regain something which you lost, that what the definition is of the word. We never came inside Indian controlled territory to capture it for good , that was not the aim, idea was a pre-emptive strike, a shock and awe operation, where this myth of Indian superiority over Pakistan can be squashed once and for all. We lost few good men like will happen in any armed conflict by the damage we caused to India are enormous, both in terms of Indian armed forced killed, physiological impact it had on Indian syche and more importantly, they and world now know that there is nothing like Indian superiority over Pakistan. Pakistan can and will spank India in its own territory at the time of its picking. The vary fact that from top to bottom, Indian are still licking their wounds and smarting from kargil spanking , as they say, proof is in the pudding.

 

[Gregor Clegane]

More like a little rat. I keep on squealing Sir, as I am miserable .

I corrected your statement.

Scared Pakistani soldiers thanking Indian Army for being merciful

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Pure Bull shit please highest point in region is tiger hill please put elevation of point 5353 to prove your point

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2000/08/11/stories/14115502.htm

Artillery observers on peak 5,353 metres can direct accurate artillery fire on to up to 20 km of the National Highway 1A, and cripple Indian defensive positions from Mushkoh to Bhimbet. Indian troops are being forced to compensate for this tactical blund er by engaging in a series of operations in the Batalik sector.

Pakistani occupation of point 5353 means Operation Vijay's core objective in Drass, securing the highway, in effect failed


Now you wrote the following, which I believe is utter bullshit but for the argument sake:

"Point 5353 is surrounded by three Indian posts, including Point 5240 and any action from there would be neutralised Point 4875,4251,5240"

Point 5353, the number, is the height of the post. You in your Indian wisdom are going to hit the posts on higher elevation from point 4875,4251,5240 which are are lower elevations?

Read the above article again. There are still some sane people who understand the realities. Empty bravado make work in bollywood, not in real life.

 

[Jamwal's]

We never came inside Indian controlled territory to capture it for good , that was not the aim, idea was a pre-emptive strike, a shock and awe operation, where this myth of Indian superiority over Pakistan can be squashed once and for all.

For a whining fanboy like yourself, i would only quote ex military commanders as to what was the objective behind Kargil.

Below is the aim of Kargil according to Pakistan Military not breaking some Indian superiority myth. They served in high echelon of Military not an armchair warlord like you.

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/kargil-was-a-disaster-musharraf-tried-to-cover-it-up/20130127.htm


Lt Gen Mehmud Ahmad who was commanding the Rawalpindi Corps, Tufail writes that the Kargil plan was revealed on May 12, two weeks before India retaliated with air strikes, when Ahmad briefed him and others on the operation.

"Come October, we shall walk in to Siachen - to mop up the dead bodies of hundreds of Indians left hungry, out in the cold," Ahmad is quoted as having said during the briefing, adding that "I have Stingers on every peak" to counter the threat of Indian air strikes against Pakistani intruders



http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.in/2009/01/kargil-conflict-and-pakistan-air-force.html

The vary fact that from top to bottom, Indian are still licking their wounds and smarting from kargil spanking , as they say, proof is in the pudding.

So much spanking that Pak refused to take the bodies of uniformed soldiers and then making emotional request by back channel after we paraded their ID cards, uniforms and even personal stuff like letters and Quran.


When Pakistani refused to accept their body, his grandpa made an emotional request to Our COAS to exhumed their body and return to the family through back channel.


https://defence.pk/threads/the-capt...ost-pt-5770-by-rajput-regt-in-siachen.434023/

Pakistan can and will spank India in its own territory at the time of its picking.

Says a country which lost Turtok and Kargil in 1971

Siachen in 1984 and 1987.

And I am not even mentioning BD.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

I corrected your statement.

Scared Pakistani soldiers thanking Indian Army for being merciful

While Indian bollywood propaganda can be easily be ridiculed, for Indians it hard to face the reality. Watch the "pee in the pants" face of this Indian pilot , Poor sod.

For the squeeling, I was refering to the occupying pigs accross the locs.

 

[G0dfather]

I am from Islamabad indian occupied kashmir we kashmiris love aazadi and Pakistan more than ourselves and secondly you talking about subsidized food grains that is a white lie, we pay our taxes infact india depends on our electricity which they steel from our water resources through military occupation you should be ashamed of your selves, end-ia is worlds largest fake democracy.

we are not like indian bikhari's india's almost 70% population lives below poverty you have nothing to feed your poor and you are lying about all this, we all kashmiri's are far more educated and wealthy by the grace of almighty Allah than india can ever be.

AND EVERY SINGLE KASHMIRI SAYS GO INDIA GO BACK
HO JEEVE HO JEEVE , JEEVE PAKISTAN
HO RAGDO HO RAGDO , RAGDO HINDUSTAN

There is no internet in Anantnag. How come you are posting?

If you are not Indian and dont consider Kashmir to be a part of India then why sport Indian flags. Change the flags Assim.

@asim kashmiri busted in first attempt

 

[Gregor Clegane]

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2000/08/11/stories/14115502.htm

Artillery observers on peak 5,353 metres can direct accurate artillery fire on to up to 20 km of the National Highway 1A, and cripple Indian defensive positions from Mushkoh to Bhimbet. Indian troops are being forced to compensate for this tactical blund er by engaging in a series of operations in the Batalik sector.

Pakistani occupation of point 5353 means Operation Vijay's core objective in Drass, securing the highway, in effect failed


Now you wrote the following, which I believe is utter bullshit but for the argument sake:

"Point 5353 is surrounded by three Indian posts, including Point 5240 and any action from there would be neutralised Point 4875,4251,5240"

Point 5353, the number, is the height of the post. You in your Indian wisdom are going to hit the posts on higher elevation from point 4875,4251,5240 which are are lower elevations?

Read the above article again. There are still some sane people who understand the realities. Empty bravado make work in bollywood, not in real life.

ROFL.
From the same article you quoted:

In one such operation on April 8, a company of the 14 Sikh Regiment occupied point 5310, an unheld peak roughly one kilometre air distance on the Pakistan side of the LoC.

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2000/08/11/stories/14115502.htm

Weak and pathetic Pakistan Army couldn't do crap as India went 1 km deep inside Pakistan and spanked Pak Army.

While Indian bollywood propaganda can be easily be ridiculed, for Indians it hard to face the reality. Watch the "pee in the pants" face of this Indian pilot , Poor sod.

For the squeeling, I was refering to the occupying pigs accross the locs.

Weak Pakistan army surrenders to Indian Army after getting scared.

No body squeals and moans more than your soldiers in P0K.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

For a whining fanboy like yourself, i would only quote ex military commanders as to what was the objective behind Kargil.

Below is the aim of Kargil according to Pakistan Military not breaking some Indian superiority myth. They served in high echelon of Military not an armchair warlord like you.

http://www.rediff.com/news/report/kargil-was-a-disaster-musharraf-tried-to-cover-it-up/20130127.htm


Lt Gen Mehmud Ahmad who was commanding the Rawalpindi Corps, Tufail writes that the Kargil plan was revealed on May 12, two weeks before India retaliated with air strikes, when Ahmad briefed him and others on the operation.

"Come October, we shall walk in to Siachen - to mop up the dead bodies of hundreds of Indians left hungry, out in the cold," Ahmad is quoted as having said during the briefing, adding that "I have Stingers on every peak" to counter the threat of Indian air strikes against Pakistani intruders



http://kaiser-aeronaut.blogspot.in/2009/01/kargil-conflict-and-pakistan-air-force.html

So much spanking that Pak refused to take the bodies of uniformed soldiers and then making emotional request by back channel after we paraded their ID cards, uniforms and even personal stuff like letters and Quran.


When Pakistani refused to accept their body, his grandpa made an emotional request to Our COAS to exhumed their body and return to the family through back channel.


https://defence.pk/threads/the-capt...ost-pt-5770-by-rajput-regt-in-siachen.434023/



Says a country which lost Turtok and Kargil in 1971

Siachen in 1984 and 1987.

And I am not even mentioning BD.

The problem with you Indian armchair warriors is that you can grasp a simply reality. Which is, Pakistan came inside your controlled territory, spanked your hard and went back to its own land after our hearts were content. While on Indian side, till date, there has been no response to such tonking, only bollywood bravado and empty rhetoric of your hindu leaders , fundos and terrorists.

As for Kasier and Shahid, they are bitter as they were kept out of loop of this mission. Infact even within army, hardly few knew let alone the other two services, the PAF and Navy. To say such things infront of a kasier by Gen Mahmood and then to write a blog about it with no official confirmation of such non sense, and worst, for Indians to use that a some sort of point scoring against the Pakistan, it nothing but Bullsh|t I am afraid.

So much spanking that throught out India, there was a shortage of coffins to for the dead. You may disagree with me, but I do have contacts acorss the border and it was confirmed at there was no cornor , no neighbour in India, where bodies of dead Indian soldiers from Kargil were not retuned. Spanking was almighty.

Says a country which wrestled a land size of switzerland from India in a classic war of 1948 and effectively merged it. Its called Azad (Liberated) Kashmir. Your Bharat mata didnt give us Azad Kashmir as a dowry.

Siachin was a no mans land, far away from demarched LOC. You lot wanted to be smart arses, went there and got your arse stuck there.

71 was a rebellion, more then a war. No military might can fight locals when they decide they dont want to be part of federation. This is what you are going to find soon in IOK.