Rashid Mehmood is the most likely candidate. Doesn't mean the best one as a Pakistani my ONLY interest is someone who won't go for a martial law I can't care less for the rest of details.
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Rashid Mehmood is the most likely candidate. Doesn't mean the best one as a Pakistani my ONLY interest is someone who won't go for a martial law I can't care less for the rest of details.
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Now that the Abbotabad commission report has been made public, readers, critical readers, are invited to remember that it was first on this forum that "Dereliction of Duty" was introduced to critical readers, and we also suggested "Right man for the Job" and that would mean we first attempt to give some thought to what that mission OUGHT and might be --- The report outlines a number of proposals to construct more rational and more effective national security constructs and the input of Armed Forces and the future of her agencies deserves attention.
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New COAS: critical decision coming up for PM
Baqir Sajjad Syed
Published 2013-07-21 09:12:02
ISLAMABAD: Before Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s proverbial honeymoon period is over he will be faced with critical decisions like succession in the army command and rotating the ceremonial chair of Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee among other services.
When these decisions are to be made, Prime Minister Sharif, who is in office for a record third non-consecutive tenure, will find himself at the same crossroads he has been at twice (in 1993 and 1998) – in fact thrice if his botched attempt to appoint Gen Ziauddin Butt as army chief in 1999 is also counted.
On both previous occasions he chose men (Gen Waheed Kakar and Gen Pervez Musharraf) who sent him packing months later. Nevertheless, the choices were relatively easier in 1993 and 1998.
He now has to look for a man who can deal with the multi-dimensional threats to national security, turn around the country’s fortunes in the fight against terror and, more significantly, work with the civilian leadership in redressing the civil-military imbalance believed to be at the root of many of the ills the country faces today.
Last but not the least, the new army chief also has to be in sync with Mr Sharif’s vision of normalisation of ties with India.
If his previous words are taken into account, the prime minister does not have a tough choice to make: “I’ll go by the book. I’ll go by the merit. Whosoever is the most senior would occupy the job. The next one, the next in line.”
This would give Mr Sharif a panel of three generals who would then be in service: Lt Gen Haroon Aslam, Lt Gen Rashad Mahmood and Lt Gen Raheel Sharif.
According to the rules, names from this panel would be sent to him by the defence ministry, which at the moment is headed by Mr Sharif himself.
Mr Sharif, who according to insiders will be cautious this time around in picking the next man, has already started screening the candidates. In this task he is being helped by the old duo – ‘heir apparent’ Shahbaz Sharif and Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar — that made the choice for Gen Musharraf in 1998.
The two have been meeting the people concerned and one such meeting that was noted by many was their visit to Rawalpindi Corps Commander Lt Gen Khalid Nawaz.
No one is privy to the discussions in the Chaklala Garrison. Is there a move afoot to grant Gen Nawaz an extension before he retires in October and subsequently make him the army chief or was the visit just aimed at consultations about the prospective candidates? No one can say with surety.
Gen Nawaz is a relative of Raja Zafarul Haq and belongs to a village — Nara Matore — located in the suburbs of the federal capital.
When silence is the order of the day in matters as sensitive as the selection of the next army chief, using simple arithmetic sequencing comes in handy.
Mr Sharif’s choice in 1993 was Gen Kakar who was then fourth on the seniority list and in 1998 he picked Gen Pervez Musharraf who was number three on the seniority list.
Can one say that this time around he would go for the man who would be number two (Lt Gen Rashad Mahmood) and technically also on the panel that would be presented to the prime minister.
The speculation that Lt Gen Rashad Mahmood would make it to the office is also supported by some ground realities. Gen Mahmood was earlier this year elevated to the coveted office of Chief of General Staff. Eight of the last 13 army chiefs had served as CGS prior to becoming a four-star general.
Gen Mahmood has served as Lahore Corps Commander which may go in his favour as the Sharifs are in favour of those who have worked in Lahore — an inclination that is reflected in their key bureaucratic appointments. And don’t forget the general too hails from Lahore.
Moreover, Gen Mahmood has remained military secretary to former president Rafiq Tarar.
Gen Mahmood comes from Baloch Regiment, the parent arm of Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, and as a major general he had served under him in the ISI as deputy director general.
In Gen Mahmood’s appointment as the CGS, who is in charge of operational and intelligence matters at the General Headquarters, Gen Kayani has already indicated his personal preference, if one were to read it that way. He also remained aide-de-camp (ADC) to former army chief Gen Aslam Beg, who was held responsible by the Supreme Court in the Asghar Khan case for creating the Islami Jamhoori Ittehad and engineering the 1990 polls. The 1990 elections brought Nawaz Sharif into power at the centre for the first time.
The other person, who is not much discussed among the likely Gen Kayani’s successors, but is seen as a safe choice by the Sharif camp is Lt Gen Raheel Sharif, who is currently Inspector General Training and Evaluation at the General Headquarters.
A careerist like Gen Mahmood, he previously served as Corps Commander in Gujranwala and held the prestigious position of Commandant Pakistan Military Academy, Kakul.
Gen Sharif is the younger brother of Nishan-i-Haider recipient Major Shabbir Sharif.
Curiously, very few are willing to bet on Lt Gen Haroon Aslam, even though he would be the senior most at the time of Gen Kayani’s retirement on November 28, provided the seniority list is not affected by any extensions.
Theoretically, he should be Mr Sharif’s choice if we go by: “The next one, the next in line”.
Gen Aslam is presently posted as Chief of Logistics Staff at the General Headquarters.
The current postings of Gen Sharif and Gen Aslam – slots that are seen in military service as positions where senior generals cool their heels prior to retirement — are why many do not consider them to be serious contenders for the slot.
Gen Aslam has had a brilliant career in military service where he remained Director General Military Operations, commanded Special Services Group (SSG) and then became Corps Commander in Bahawalpur, before being dispatched to the wilderness of logistics.
His role in Operation Rah-i-Rast (Swat), where he bravely took on Taliban insurgents in their stronghold of Peochar was and is widely appreciated.
His colleagues in the military simply say that “there are issues”, but throw no light on why a high-profile general has ended up in a dead-end job.
And if this was not a disadvantage enough, others feel that Mr Sharif may not have the stomach for another commando after his tryst with Gen Musharraf.
Other than Gen Nawaz, whom many are not counting on because his apparent retirement date comes before the succession takes place, the other dark horse in the race is Lt Gen Tariq Khan, Corps Commander of Mangla.
His fellows describe him as a ‘seedha fauji’ (a real soldier) and a hard-task master.
He successfully commanded counter-insurgency operations in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas as Inspector General of Frontier Corps.
Other than stories of his gallantry in confronting militancy, what also goes in his favour is that the Americans speak very highly of him. He is a recipient of US Legion of Merit.
The cornerstone of US policy of the PML-N government, according to a Sharif’s top foreign policy aide, is to reinvigorate the Pak-US military relationship.
Gen Khan’s choice could help the government’s goal of strengthening military ties with the Pentagon.
Besides, the battle-hardened general is seen by defence analysts as the government’s best bet to give fresh impetus to the fight against militancy and dealing with the challenges that could arise after the withdrawal of coalition forces from Afghanistan.
Spymaster Lt Gen Zaheerul Islam (director general of the Inter-Services Intelligence) also holds an outside chance.
The other interesting move to watch would be the prime minister’s decision about the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee.
The current Chairman Gen Khalid Shameem Wynne retires on October 6. The position is largely ceremonial at present and yet it has remained with the army for the past 16 years, even though in practice it has to be rotated among the three armed services.
The government is thinking about restarting the rotation, which may dent the oversized army clout.
DAWN
Baqir Sajjad Syed
Published 2013-07-21 09:12:02
ISLAMABAD: Before Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s proverbial honeymoon period is over he will be faced with critical decisions like succession in the army command and rotating the ceremonial chair of Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee among other services.
When these decisions are to be made, Prime Minister Sharif, who is in office for a record third non-consecutive tenure, will find himself at the same crossroads he has been at twice (in 1993 and 1998) – in fact thrice if his botched attempt to appoint Gen Ziauddin Butt as army chief in 1999 is also counted.
On both previous occasions he chose men (Gen Waheed Kakar and Gen Pervez Musharraf) who sent him packing months later. Nevertheless, the choices were relatively easier in 1993 and 1998.
He now has to look for a man who can deal with the multi-dimensional threats to national security, turn around the country’s fortunes in the fight against terror and, more significantly, work with the civilian leadership in redressing the civil-military imbalance believed to be at the root of many of the ills the country faces today.
Last but not the least, the new army chief also has to be in sync with Mr Sharif’s vision of normalisation of ties with India.
If his previous words are taken into account, the prime minister does not have a tough choice to make: “I’ll go by the book. I’ll go by the merit. Whosoever is the most senior would occupy the job. The next one, the next in line.”
This would give Mr Sharif a panel of three generals who would then be in service: Lt Gen Haroon Aslam, Lt Gen Rashad Mahmood and Lt Gen Raheel Sharif.
According to the rules, names from this panel would be sent to him by the defence ministry, which at the moment is headed by Mr Sharif himself.
Mr Sharif, who according to insiders will be cautious this time around in picking the next man, has already started screening the candidates. In this task he is being helped by the old duo – ‘heir apparent’ Shahbaz Sharif and Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar — that made the choice for Gen Musharraf in 1998.
The two have been meeting the people concerned and one such meeting that was noted by many was their visit to Rawalpindi Corps Commander Lt Gen Khalid Nawaz.
No one is privy to the discussions in the Chaklala Garrison. Is there a move afoot to grant Gen Nawaz an extension before he retires in October and subsequently make him the army chief or was the visit just aimed at consultations about the prospective candidates? No one can say with surety.
Gen Nawaz is a relative of Raja Zafarul Haq and belongs to a village — Nara Matore — located in the suburbs of the federal capital.
When silence is the order of the day in matters as sensitive as the selection of the next army chief, using simple arithmetic sequencing comes in handy.
Mr Sharif’s choice in 1993 was Gen Kakar who was then fourth on the seniority list and in 1998 he picked Gen Pervez Musharraf who was number three on the seniority list.
Can one say that this time around he would go for the man who would be number two (Lt Gen Rashad Mahmood) and technically also on the panel that would be presented to the prime minister.
The speculation that Lt Gen Rashad Mahmood would make it to the office is also supported by some ground realities. Gen Mahmood was earlier this year elevated to the coveted office of Chief of General Staff. Eight of the last 13 army chiefs had served as CGS prior to becoming a four-star general.
Gen Mahmood has served as Lahore Corps Commander which may go in his favour as the Sharifs are in favour of those who have worked in Lahore — an inclination that is reflected in their key bureaucratic appointments. And don’t forget the general too hails from Lahore.
Moreover, Gen Mahmood has remained military secretary to former president Rafiq Tarar.
Gen Mahmood comes from Baloch Regiment, the parent arm of Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, and as a major general he had served under him in the ISI as deputy director general.
In Gen Mahmood’s appointment as the CGS, who is in charge of operational and intelligence matters at the General Headquarters, Gen Kayani has already indicated his personal preference, if one were to read it that way. He also remained aide-de-camp (ADC) to former army chief Gen Aslam Beg, who was held responsible by the Supreme Court in the Asghar Khan case for creating the Islami Jamhoori Ittehad and engineering the 1990 polls. The 1990 elections brought Nawaz Sharif into power at the centre for the first time.
The other person, who is not much discussed among the likely Gen Kayani’s successors, but is seen as a safe choice by the Sharif camp is Lt Gen Raheel Sharif, who is currently Inspector General Training and Evaluation at the General Headquarters.
A careerist like Gen Mahmood, he previously served as Corps Commander in Gujranwala and held the prestigious position of Commandant Pakistan Military Academy, Kakul.
Gen Sharif is the younger brother of Nishan-i-Haider recipient Major Shabbir Sharif.
Curiously, very few are willing to bet on Lt Gen Haroon Aslam, even though he would be the senior most at the time of Gen Kayani’s retirement on November 28, provided the seniority list is not affected by any extensions.
Theoretically, he should be Mr Sharif’s choice if we go by: “The next one, the next in line”.
Gen Aslam is presently posted as Chief of Logistics Staff at the General Headquarters.
The current postings of Gen Sharif and Gen Aslam – slots that are seen in military service as positions where senior generals cool their heels prior to retirement — are why many do not consider them to be serious contenders for the slot.
Gen Aslam has had a brilliant career in military service where he remained Director General Military Operations, commanded Special Services Group (SSG) and then became Corps Commander in Bahawalpur, before being dispatched to the wilderness of logistics.
His role in Operation Rah-i-Rast (Swat), where he bravely took on Taliban insurgents in their stronghold of Peochar was and is widely appreciated.
His colleagues in the military simply say that “there are issues”, but throw no light on why a high-profile general has ended up in a dead-end job.
And if this was not a disadvantage enough, others feel that Mr Sharif may not have the stomach for another commando after his tryst with Gen Musharraf.
Other than Gen Nawaz, whom many are not counting on because his apparent retirement date comes before the succession takes place, the other dark horse in the race is Lt Gen Tariq Khan, Corps Commander of Mangla.
His fellows describe him as a ‘seedha fauji’ (a real soldier) and a hard-task master.
He successfully commanded counter-insurgency operations in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas as Inspector General of Frontier Corps.
Other than stories of his gallantry in confronting militancy, what also goes in his favour is that the Americans speak very highly of him. He is a recipient of US Legion of Merit.
The cornerstone of US policy of the PML-N government, according to a Sharif’s top foreign policy aide, is to reinvigorate the Pak-US military relationship.
Gen Khan’s choice could help the government’s goal of strengthening military ties with the Pentagon.
Besides, the battle-hardened general is seen by defence analysts as the government’s best bet to give fresh impetus to the fight against militancy and dealing with the challenges that could arise after the withdrawal of coalition forces from Afghanistan.
Spymaster Lt Gen Zaheerul Islam (director general of the Inter-Services Intelligence) also holds an outside chance.
The other interesting move to watch would be the prime minister’s decision about the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee.
The current Chairman Gen Khalid Shameem Wynne retires on October 6. The position is largely ceremonial at present and yet it has remained with the army for the past 16 years, even though in practice it has to be rotated among the three armed services.
The government is thinking about restarting the rotation, which may dent the oversized army clout.
DAWN
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We said earlier, the right man for the job - So whats the job?:
Look it:[
This idiot has been burnt twice before because he does not seem to realize that Generals are an expression of the INSTITUTION that is the Army ---- Being a bunch of provincials, they are going to go with a Yaaro da Yaar instead of focusing on the job at hand --- The INSTITUTION is not going to do anything that it is not persuaded it needs to do and that takes preparation, in particular Ideological preparation -- has this been done? How likely then is ANY choice of ANY person??
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New COAS: critical decision coming up for PM
New COAS: critical decision coming up for PM - DAWN.COM
This is a good article to read. Some key points from this article:
"On both previous occasions he chose men (Gen Waheed Kakar and Gen Pervez Musharraf) who sent him packing months later. Nevertheless, the choices were relatively easier in 1993 and 1998."
"He now has to look for a man who can deal with the multi-dimensional threats to national security, turn around the country’s fortunes in the fight against terror and, more significantly, work with the civilian leadership in redressing the civil-military imbalance believed to be at the root of many of the ills the country faces today.
Last but not the least, the new army chief also has to be in sync with Mr Sharif’s vision of normalisation of ties with India."
"Mr Sharif’s choice in 1993 was Gen Kakar who was then fourth on the seniority list and in 1998 he picked Gen Pervez Musharraf who was number three on the seniority list."
"The speculation that Lt Gen Rashad Mahmood would make it to the office is also supported by some ground realities. Gen Mahmood was earlier this year elevated to the coveted office of Chief of General Staff. Eight of the last 13 army chiefs had served as CGS prior to becoming a four-star general.
Gen Mahmood has served as Lahore Corps Commander which may go in his favour as the Sharifs are in favour of those who have worked in Lahore — an inclination that is reflected in their key bureaucratic appointments. And don’t forget the general too hails from Lahore.
Moreover, Gen Mahmood has remained military secretary to former president Rafiq Tarar.
Gen Mahmood comes from Baloch Regiment, the parent arm of Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, and as a major general he had served under him in the ISI as deputy director general.
In Gen Mahmood’s appointment as the CGS, who is in charge of operational and intelligence matters at the General Headquarters, Gen Kayani has already indicated his personal preference, if one were to read it that way.
He also remained aide-de-camp (ADC) to former army chief Gen Aslam Beg, who was held responsible by the Supreme Court in the Asghar Khan case for creating the Islami Jamhoori Ittehad and engineering the 1990 polls. The 1990 elections brought Nawaz Sharif into power at the centre for the first time."
"The other person, who is not much discussed among the likely Gen Kayani’s successors, but is seen as a safe choice by the Sharif camp is Lt Gen Raheel Sharif, who is currently Inspector General Training and Evaluation at the General Headquarters.
A careerist like Gen Mahmood, he previously served as Corps Commander in Gujranwala and held the prestigious position of Commandant Pakistan Military Academy, Kakul.
Gen Sharif is the younger brother of Nishan-i-Haider recipient Major Shabbir Sharif."
"Curiously, very few are willing to bet on Lt Gen Haroon Aslam, even though he would be the senior most at the time of Gen Kayani’s retirement on November 28, provided the seniority list is not affected by any extensions.
Theoretically, he should be Mr Sharif’s choice if we go by: “The next one, the next in line”.
Gen Aslam is presently posted as Chief of Logistics Staff at the General Headquarters.
The current postings of Gen Sharif and Gen Aslam – slots that are seen in military service as positions where senior generals cool their heels prior to retirement — are why many do not consider them to be serious contenders for the slot.
Gen Aslam has had a brilliant career in military service where he remained Director General Military Operations, commanded Special Services Group (SSG) and then became Corps Commander in Bahawalpur, before being dispatched to the wilderness of logistics.
His role in Operation Rah-i-Rast (Swat), where he bravely took on Taliban insurgents in their stronghold of Peochar was and is widely appreciated.
His colleagues in the military simply say that “there are issues”, but throw no light on why a high-profile general has ended up in a dead-end job."
New COAS: critical decision coming up for PM - DAWN.COM
This is a good article to read. Some key points from this article:
"On both previous occasions he chose men (Gen Waheed Kakar and Gen Pervez Musharraf) who sent him packing months later. Nevertheless, the choices were relatively easier in 1993 and 1998."
"He now has to look for a man who can deal with the multi-dimensional threats to national security, turn around the country’s fortunes in the fight against terror and, more significantly, work with the civilian leadership in redressing the civil-military imbalance believed to be at the root of many of the ills the country faces today.
Last but not the least, the new army chief also has to be in sync with Mr Sharif’s vision of normalisation of ties with India."
"Mr Sharif’s choice in 1993 was Gen Kakar who was then fourth on the seniority list and in 1998 he picked Gen Pervez Musharraf who was number three on the seniority list."
"The speculation that Lt Gen Rashad Mahmood would make it to the office is also supported by some ground realities. Gen Mahmood was earlier this year elevated to the coveted office of Chief of General Staff. Eight of the last 13 army chiefs had served as CGS prior to becoming a four-star general.
Gen Mahmood has served as Lahore Corps Commander which may go in his favour as the Sharifs are in favour of those who have worked in Lahore — an inclination that is reflected in their key bureaucratic appointments. And don’t forget the general too hails from Lahore.
Moreover, Gen Mahmood has remained military secretary to former president Rafiq Tarar.
Gen Mahmood comes from Baloch Regiment, the parent arm of Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, and as a major general he had served under him in the ISI as deputy director general.
In Gen Mahmood’s appointment as the CGS, who is in charge of operational and intelligence matters at the General Headquarters, Gen Kayani has already indicated his personal preference, if one were to read it that way.
He also remained aide-de-camp (ADC) to former army chief Gen Aslam Beg, who was held responsible by the Supreme Court in the Asghar Khan case for creating the Islami Jamhoori Ittehad and engineering the 1990 polls. The 1990 elections brought Nawaz Sharif into power at the centre for the first time."
"The other person, who is not much discussed among the likely Gen Kayani’s successors, but is seen as a safe choice by the Sharif camp is Lt Gen Raheel Sharif, who is currently Inspector General Training and Evaluation at the General Headquarters.
A careerist like Gen Mahmood, he previously served as Corps Commander in Gujranwala and held the prestigious position of Commandant Pakistan Military Academy, Kakul.
Gen Sharif is the younger brother of Nishan-i-Haider recipient Major Shabbir Sharif."
"Curiously, very few are willing to bet on Lt Gen Haroon Aslam, even though he would be the senior most at the time of Gen Kayani’s retirement on November 28, provided the seniority list is not affected by any extensions.
Theoretically, he should be Mr Sharif’s choice if we go by: “The next one, the next in line”.
Gen Aslam is presently posted as Chief of Logistics Staff at the General Headquarters.
The current postings of Gen Sharif and Gen Aslam – slots that are seen in military service as positions where senior generals cool their heels prior to retirement — are why many do not consider them to be serious contenders for the slot.
Gen Aslam has had a brilliant career in military service where he remained Director General Military Operations, commanded Special Services Group (SSG) and then became Corps Commander in Bahawalpur, before being dispatched to the wilderness of logistics.
His role in Operation Rah-i-Rast (Swat), where he bravely took on Taliban insurgents in their stronghold of Peochar was and is widely appreciated.
His colleagues in the military simply say that “there are issues”, but throw no light on why a high-profile general has ended up in a dead-end job."
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In my opinion, Gen Haroon Aslam is the best choice because he is the senior most, he has held key responsibilities, he has taken part in WOT and he is known to be a thorough professional.
I read somewhere that Gen Raheel Sharif is an average officer and is a go with the flow guy.
I hope that Gen Rashad doesn't make it to the post because of his background. He has served Gen Aslam Baig and former President Rafiq Tarrar and that mnakes him a bit too political for my taste.
Gen Tariq has a reputation as been a pro-American and I would definitely not like to see him at the top (even his reputation of pro-US is just a rumor the damage has been done).
Gen Zaheer, no because he has been chief of ISI. I strongly believe that no ISI chief should become the CoAS. I also believe that a Lt. Gen MUST NOT BE AN ISI CHIEF. The highest rank to serve as an ISI chief should be a Maj Gen. The deputy directors should be Brigadiers.
Lets see what happens, we need a chief who is better than Gen Kiyani so that next chief can restore the confidence of nation in Pakistan army again. Abbotabad, Salala, drone attacks etc have hurt Pakistan army's reputation.
Thanks to the officers and ranks who have gallantry fought in WOT and who remain vigilant on the Indian border that people still have some faith in army otherwise last few years have been a complete disaster for the Pakistan Army.
I read somewhere that Gen Raheel Sharif is an average officer and is a go with the flow guy.
I hope that Gen Rashad doesn't make it to the post because of his background. He has served Gen Aslam Baig and former President Rafiq Tarrar and that mnakes him a bit too political for my taste.
Gen Tariq has a reputation as been a pro-American and I would definitely not like to see him at the top (even his reputation of pro-US is just a rumor the damage has been done).
Gen Zaheer, no because he has been chief of ISI. I strongly believe that no ISI chief should become the CoAS. I also believe that a Lt. Gen MUST NOT BE AN ISI CHIEF. The highest rank to serve as an ISI chief should be a Maj Gen. The deputy directors should be Brigadiers.
Lets see what happens, we need a chief who is better than Gen Kiyani so that next chief can restore the confidence of nation in Pakistan army again. Abbotabad, Salala, drone attacks etc have hurt Pakistan army's reputation.
Thanks to the officers and ranks who have gallantry fought in WOT and who remain vigilant on the Indian border that people still have some faith in army otherwise last few years have been a complete disaster for the Pakistan Army.
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Gen Nawaz is a relative of Raja Zafarul Haq and belongs to a village Nara Matore located in the suburbs of the federal capital
Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-army/260433-next-coas-10.html#ixzz2Zko5K0aW
PML-N religious affairs minister
Moreover, Gen Mahmood has remained military secretary to former president Rafiq Tarar
Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-army/260433-next-coas-10.html#ixzz2ZkoWeodB
PML-N appointed former prez
He also remained aide-de-camp (ADC) to former army chief Gen Aslam Beg, who was held responsible by the Supreme Court in the Asghar Khan case for creating the Islami Jamhoori Ittehad and engineering the 1990 polls. The 1990 elections brought Nawaz Sharif into power at the centre for the first time.
Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-army/260433-next-coas-10.html#ixzz2Zkoxms00
pay-back time!
these are the types of 'relationships' these PMLNers are looking for, not the merit and standing of the general officer.
Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-army/260433-next-coas-10.html#ixzz2Zko5K0aW
PML-N religious affairs minister
Moreover, Gen Mahmood has remained military secretary to former president Rafiq Tarar
Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-army/260433-next-coas-10.html#ixzz2ZkoWeodB
PML-N appointed former prez
He also remained aide-de-camp (ADC) to former army chief Gen Aslam Beg, who was held responsible by the Supreme Court in the Asghar Khan case for creating the Islami Jamhoori Ittehad and engineering the 1990 polls. The 1990 elections brought Nawaz Sharif into power at the centre for the first time.
Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakistan-army/260433-next-coas-10.html#ixzz2Zkoxms00
pay-back time!
these are the types of 'relationships' these PMLNers are looking for, not the merit and standing of the general officer.
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Monday, July 22, 2013
COAS not to be given extension this time: Rasheed
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LAHORE: President Pakistan Muslim League Awami Sheikh Rasheed has stated that Chief of Army Staff Gen Ashfaq Pervaiz Kayani will not be given extension in his tenure and he will have to go now.
Army and government have reservations on each other, while the chief justice of Pakistan and President of Pakistan would also have to go now.
While addressing a press conference at a local hotel here on Sunday, Rasheed was of the view that if Article 6 was practiced on Gen Musharraf it would start from October 12, 1999 which would bring more than 870 high ranking people under it. He further said that current government was still working on Musharraf’s foreign policy.
COAS not to be given extension this time: Rasheed
Staff Report
LAHORE: President Pakistan Muslim League Awami Sheikh Rasheed has stated that Chief of Army Staff Gen Ashfaq Pervaiz Kayani will not be given extension in his tenure and he will have to go now.
Army and government have reservations on each other, while the chief justice of Pakistan and President of Pakistan would also have to go now.
While addressing a press conference at a local hotel here on Sunday, Rasheed was of the view that if Article 6 was practiced on Gen Musharraf it would start from October 12, 1999 which would bring more than 870 high ranking people under it. He further said that current government was still working on Musharraf’s foreign policy.
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You cant Use force everywhere , biggest example Russia
Its a critical time Kiyani is not one man show he leads army of million and a country of millions he also have to take in count of them 2 some times silence is better the beating the drum, Wait for right time
i think decision pending in prime minister house
then it must be Pervez Mushraf...lol
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General Haroon Aslam
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- Served in the ISI as one of the Directors General
- He is known as ‘a dashing officer’ and has to his credit leading the Swat military operation
- Set to retire in 2014)
General Rashid Mehmood
- second in the seniority list
- Currently Corps Commander of Lahore
- Served as Deputy DG ISI to coordinate intelligence operations
- Is the preference of Gen. Kayani for the new army chief.
- He has the reputation of being a reserved officer.
- He is also known as a patient listener and less talkative. In many ways, he is like General Kayani
Gen Raheel Sharif
- third in the seniority list
- Is the younger brother of Nishan-i-Haider Major Shabbir Sharif Shaheed)
- He was first entrusted to command the Gujranwala Corps and later appointed as Inspector General Weapon
- is known to Lt General (retired) Abdul Qadir Baloch, a close confidante of PM Nawaz Sharif
General Tariq Khan
- fourth in the seniority list
- From Wazirstan.
- He was awarded Sword of Honor.
- Participated in 1991 Gulf War
- Commanded the First Armoured Division in Multan in 2006-2007 where he was posted following a successful stint as Pakistan’s representative in US Central command in 2004-2005.
- Great success fighting against Militants in Bajur, South Waziristan, Dir, Mohmand, Swat and Buner.
General Zaheer ul Islam
- fifth in the seniority list
- Belongs to a politically well-established Janjua clan
- Present ISI chief
- Senior Most.
- Served in the ISI as one of the Directors General
- He is known as ‘a dashing officer’ and has to his credit leading the Swat military operation
- Set to retire in 2014)
General Rashid Mehmood
- second in the seniority list
- Currently Corps Commander of Lahore
- Served as Deputy DG ISI to coordinate intelligence operations
- Is the preference of Gen. Kayani for the new army chief.
- He has the reputation of being a reserved officer.
- He is also known as a patient listener and less talkative. In many ways, he is like General Kayani
Gen Raheel Sharif
- third in the seniority list
- Is the younger brother of Nishan-i-Haider Major Shabbir Sharif Shaheed)
- He was first entrusted to command the Gujranwala Corps and later appointed as Inspector General Weapon
- is known to Lt General (retired) Abdul Qadir Baloch, a close confidante of PM Nawaz Sharif
General Tariq Khan
- fourth in the seniority list
- From Wazirstan.
- He was awarded Sword of Honor.
- Participated in 1991 Gulf War
- Commanded the First Armoured Division in Multan in 2006-2007 where he was posted following a successful stint as Pakistan’s representative in US Central command in 2004-2005.
- Great success fighting against Militants in Bajur, South Waziristan, Dir, Mohmand, Swat and Buner.
General Zaheer ul Islam
- fifth in the seniority list
- Belongs to a politically well-established Janjua clan
- Present ISI chief
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Typically would be one who served as DGISI or CGS but its totally in the hands of the promotion board who submit recc. to PM following deliberations/consensus
Edit: read "mod"
Edit: read "mod"
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And blaming CMRs for the ills of the country is rather intellectually lazy and ignores the fact that without the Army doing its role (and beyond) we'd be in a much worse shyt than we are now
Has nothing to do with civil-mil relations. Has to do with over staffing and mismanagement not to mention corruption from grass roots to exec level; exacerbated by an irresponsible media and a judiciary which is proven to be ineffective and far too political
I don't buy this crap one thin bit about CMRs - except on certain national security matters in which then fauj's gains are offset by civilian fck ups and inexcusable power vacuum (caused large in part due to political squabbling and apathy)
Has nothing to do with civil-mil relations. Has to do with over staffing and mismanagement not to mention corruption from grass roots to exec level; exacerbated by an irresponsible media and a judiciary which is proven to be ineffective and far too political
I don't buy this crap one thin bit about CMRs - except on certain national security matters in which then fauj's gains are offset by civilian fck ups and inexcusable power vacuum (caused large in part due to political squabbling and apathy)
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His main audience are those whom he commands but given the political and security atmosphere and regional players (vested interests) he's forced to address multiple audiences and play a fine balancing act which I think under given extenuating circumstances he's done well
He placed emphasis on the needs of the individual soldier and for the sake of morale and battle preparedness I'd say he did well. An that too despite many combat related items which the dear civilians didn't make readily available and instead were afforded bc of effective Mil-bus + taking out of funds from officers' pay (that applies to relief Efforts during natural disasters and manmade disasters like IDP crisis)
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