Next attack on US will be postmarked

[T-Faz]

Read this, even before 911, they wanted to attack Afghanistan because of lack of substantiated agreement on the pipeline UNACOL wanted to lay through Pak and Afghanistan.

July 21, 2001: US Official Threatens Possible Military Action Against Taliban by October if Pipeline Is Not Pursued

Niaz Naik. [Source: Calcutta Telegraph (left)]
Three former American officials, Tom Simons (former US Ambassador to Pakistan), Karl Inderfurth (former Deputy Secretary of State for South Asian Affairs), and Lee Coldren (former State Department expert on South Asia) meet with Pakistani and Russian intelligence officers in a Berlin hotel. [SALON, 8/16/2002] This is the third of a series of back-channel conferences called “brainstorming on Afghanistan.” Taliban representatives sat in on previous meetings, but boycotted this one due to worsening tensions. However, the Pakistani ISI relays information from the meeting to the Taliban. [GUARDIAN, 9/22/2001] At the meeting, Coldren passes on a message from Bush officials. He later says, “I think there was some discussion of the fact that the United States was so disgusted with the Taliban that they might be considering some military action.” [GUARDIAN, 9/26/2001] Accounts vary, but former Pakistani Foreign Secretary Niaz Naik later says he is told by senior American officials at the meeting that military action to overthrow the Taliban in Afghanistan is planned to “take place before the snows started falling in Afghanistan, by the middle of October at the latest.” The goal is to kill or capture both bin Laden and Taliban leader Mullah Omar, topple the Taliban regime, and install a transitional government of moderate Afghans in its place. Uzbekistan and Russia would also participate. Naik also says, “It was doubtful that Washington would drop its plan even if bin Laden were to be surrendered immediately by the Taliban.” [BBC, 9/18/2001] One specific threat made at this meeting is that the Taliban can choose between “carpets of bombs” —an invasion—or “carpets of gold” —the pipeline. [BRISARD AND DASQUIE, 2002, PP. 43] Naik contends that Tom Simons made the “carpets” statement. Simons claims, “It’s possible that a mischievous American participant, after several drinks, may have thought it smart to evoke gold carpets and carpet bombs. Even Americans can’t resist the temptation to be mischievous.” Naik and the other American participants deny that the pipeline was an issue at the meeting. [SALON, 8/16/2002]
Entity Tags: Uzbekistan, Tom Simons, Russia, Pakistan Directorate for Inter-Services Intelligence, Mullah Omar, Lee Coldren, Nia

 

[Musafar]

Also please tone down you insults and pm me if you want to know what we got in return for doing these things.

No. I asked a reasoned question.

And I already know what we get in return. But I cannot put a price on life, especially the life of Pakistani's, you and others it seems can.

Thanks, Musafar.

 

[Musafar]

This is what West ultimately wants.

They were just looking for a reason to blame Pakistan from long and they got one now. SO they will brag about it as much as they can.
Let 'em Bark.

Few days back there was a headline.
A Pakistani terrorist was captured with explosives near US embassy in Chile.

TOday morning Fox news said.

Man accused for bombing US embassy released.

Why don't they state now
Pakistani terrorist accused of bombing US embassy was found innocent and freed by the court

Thanks.

You just re-iterated everything I said. Just watch, Rupert Murdoch will be the key to this American design.

 

[T-Faz]

No. I asked a reasoned question.

And I already know what we get in return. But I cannot put a price on life, especially the life of Pakistani's, you and others it seems can.

Thanks, Musafar.

We are in a middle of a war being fought through proxy groups, you should be happy that we have salvaged the situation thus far. Many people died in the 80's too unfortunately, over 3000 were killed by bombings in 1987 by KGB, KHAD and RAW.

However we used the mujahideen funding to obtain nuclear weapons and what do you mean by the highlighted quote. You want us to fight US directly and loose such a large number of people that you will tremble with fear.

Be reasonable kiddo, we cannot simply tell the US to F off, we can only play the hand we are dealt.

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

i though after strategic dialogue we got over with this Bull Crap(Which many of us debated through last 10 months) but it seems like Bad habbits die hard & the US wants to get rid of cooperating Pakistan in order to justify their military expansion for the sake of American imperialism in Asia ...!!!

 

[Luftwaffe]

us wants its physical presence inside Pakistan that is all they want.

 

[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

us wants its physical presence inside Pakistan that is all they want.

i guess they have it CIA AKA Black Water,DYNO CORP and not to mention the marines which will be coming in and staying inside the fortified and expanded US Embassy .

 

[HAWK73]

i am 100% sure they will blame Pakistan once again ..Hypocrites !!!

To blame Pakistan is what become as habit for India & USA what ever happens in their countries.

 

[Donatello]

The way for things to work is that USA respects Pakistan's position on the war on terror. More Pakistanis have lost their lives in the acts of terrorism than any Terrorist attack on US soil. They never seem to see this. Then this Psycho CIA person says that Pakistan created the Jihadist groups. Maybe he wasn't paying too much attention in his class at the academy that how they funded and supported the groups that eventually came to be known as the Jihadist mullahs. Talk about Mujahideen and every CIA employee would perhaps jump off their seats. They can't do much to us except bomb our cities with suicide bombers and kill innocent and poor people. Let them be it. For one day their ecnomoy is gonna crash and like the empires before them, they would fade into history. And i see that happening sometime very soon.


Is it just me or that Suicide bombings in cities have stopped? ( Mashallah i must say) but i feel that Ghadari and his government is too involved. Whenever people get too agitated and protest with increaing sugar prices, load shedding, law and order, corruption, a bomb goes off. This is just too easy to understand and too simple to be the real Taliban. Anyway, here is a nice piece of article about the Trust deficit b/w USA and Pakistan, and how Kayani keeps his eyes on the horizon.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/20/w...n%20spies don't trust their allies&st=cse


Do read.

 

[Donatello]

To blame Pakistan is what become as habit for India & USA what ever happens in their countries.

Hah, for India they just got an excuse. Pakistan is too personal an issue for them, for the fact that millions shed blood during the partition of India, we are bound to have hate and revenge feeling for a long time to come. Too bad their Mumbai drama and Sonia Gandhi's threats of Attacking Pakistan all fell flat.