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[boltu]

^^@ farhaan vai, whats the secret/reason behind the widespread presence of Noakhali people around the country ?

 

[TopCat]

What is your problem with Noakhali people:s :s

Nothing wrong. I love them as long as they stay in Noakhali.

 

[Al-zakir]

Sylhet has a lot of empty houses. Generation after generation settling in USA and Europe. Many of us build mega house just for show but no one stay there. Mockery to poor. My father among them bigot. We have three story house in Sylhet city and bungalow style house(redone) in our ancestral village but on one stay there except a care taker and Imam. We also have a lot of farm land. I have a felling that one day this property(mostly farmland) may be occupied by locals out of anger.

So one day Sylhet may be occupied by none-Sylheti.

Nothing wrong. I love them as long as they stay in Noakhali.

You supremacist Sylheti.

 

[kobiraaz]

^^@ farhaan vai, whats the secret/reason behind the widespread presence of Noakhali people around the country ?

i was once explained by an english professor of NDC about this - Both Sylhet and Noakhali are not that fertile comparing to other parts of Bangladesh. Noakhali because of ' Char Elaka' and salty sea water and sylhet because of hilly terrain! Hundred years ago most of us were farmers! So both noakhailas and sylhetis had a tendency to migrate. This is the reason most Bangladeshis living in Bidesh are from Sylhet and Noakhali. Noakhalis had a habit of settling in different parts of Bangladesh. Maybe today we don't notice, but in agricultural based society, local people used to notice notice noakhali infiltration and they hated this. This is how anti-noakhali mentality formed across the country! Even today people make fun of us.. These noakhailas who used to migrate were dirt poor but most of them became successful to go up - because of their hardwork or even dishonesty! Have you heard the joke- Dawat e khabar khawar por noakhalira dour dey, boshe adda deyna - it originated from hardwork! According to my Sir, this culture reflects in literature of that time. Like Hussain Mia in Padma nadir Majhi or that fraud in lalshalu!

 

[boltu]

Hussain Mia was a boss character
i liked him a lot.

 

[Luffy 500]

I am just defending my country and the what I think is the right thing to do. You are right about Sylhet but just imagine how Sylhetis will react if one day the Sylhetis become 49% and Noakhali people become 51%?? Is it something you like? I dont think so.

Nope I don't have any problem with Noakhali settlement in shylet.They are really hard workers unlike us shyletis infact almost all other people in BD are hard worker than shyletis. But expatriate syletis
are really hardworkers and undergo a whole social change upon settling abroad in IMO. We are a homogeneous society and are all bangladeshi. Btw Noakhali who settled in shylet can speak fluent syleti and shyleti dialect will be always dominant in shylet.

 

[PlanetSoldier]

Yes every citizen of the country have the right to settle anywhere but not in a organized and massive manner undermining the locals. For instance, let me give you an example. In Sylhet if you settle they will call you "Abadi" and will be looked down at you. Even generation after settlement they are not recognized as Sylhetis rather discriminated against all the time.

Your instance of Sylhet is unique in Bangladesh or throughout world. It's only Sylheti who can't accept others as neighbors. For instance, in Khulna I had a bigger friend circle from my school life and we sometime tried to find who were local Khulna guys, there were 1 or 2 in our circle. My origin is in Comilla zone, likewise most of them were from various parts of BD settled in Khulna. I've seen the same in Dhaka and other cities. You should have chosen such an instance bypassing Sylhet. Do you really live in USA where people from around the world gathered and living their lives ?

 

[PlanetSoldier]

I don't like it. Their life style should be preserved from Bangali infiltration! There are lots of open places in Bangladesh. Just use google map!

Farhan it's true their life style should be preserved but this matter isn't so straightforward, it's in a word complex now. If Bangali settlement causes no problem to their life style, there is nothing wrong...right? It'll will be longer story to pinpoint whole the issue. In short, just find out the actual hilly guys who are engaged in murder. If you can find out the main culprit, you might get astonished. Or in other words there's a magical way to control it....just fuel ULFA and similar wings in NE india, both hilly unrest and border killing will come under your grip. Someone 35 years back realized the very fact and started that medicine which proved to be effective. It's happened several times before that people with similar look of hilly people entered BD, committed some murder and got back. In some cases it's not necessary to enter from across border, as among hilly people there are influences from across border.

 

[kobiraaz]

planet my cousin works with them! in Khagrachhari! He told me that, these Upajatis hate Bangalis. Even good Bangalis who help them! In his language - Joint e Joint e Shoytani! And my cousin is very simple guy, when he thinks like this, i believe this is true. but you have to see larger picture of this. My cousin being a local of Dhaka, buying lands in Khagrachari using fake certificate that he is from Khagrachari. And I have said - he is very simple. He is doing it because all other goverment employee who work with him are doing this. So if i were a Chakma or Whatever, i would definitely hate them!!!

 

[TopCat]

Your instance of Sylhet is unique in Bangladesh or throughout world. It's only Sylheti who can't accept others as neighbors. For instance, in Khulna I had a bigger friend circle from my school life and we sometime tried to find who were local Khulna guys, there were 1 or 2 in our circle. My origin is in Comilla zone, likewise most of them were from various parts of BD settled in Khulna. I've seen the same in Dhaka and other cities. You should have chosen such an instance bypassing Sylhet. Do you really live in USA where people from around the world gathered and living their lives ?

I was not talking about cosmopolitan cities. YOu can go and pull rickshaws in Sylhet city, nobody will care. But you go with thousands and cut all forest and vegetation and settle there which creates problem.

Not only that, when I visited my small town few months back I saw thousands of worker from North Bengal working in brick field. Its just a small town. I found my house maid from Jessore. I asked how the hell they found this small town. I even found a guy doing cotton work from Mymentshing. I again asked him, how the hell you know the name of this place??? He just smiled with gratitude. The grill and window work of our apartment done by a guy who settled there from Madaripur.

Now tell me, if a small town which is not even a Upazilla is overwhelmed by non local then imagine what is going on in Sylhet town.

 

[kobiraaz]

Hussain Mia was a boss character
i liked him a lot.

I thought you were a english
medium student!

 

[PlanetSoldier]

planet my cousin works with them! in Khagrachhari! He told me that, these Upajatis hate Bangalis. Even good Bangalis who help them! In his language - Joint e Joint e Shoytani! And my cousin is very simple guy, when he thinks like this, i believe this is true. but you have to see larger picture of this. My cousin being a local of Dhaka, buying lands in Khagrachari using fake certificate that he is from Khagrachari. And I have said - he is very simple. He is doing it because all other goverment employee who work with him are doing this. So if i were a Chakma or Whatever, i would definitely hate them!!!

This is why I told it's in a word complex now will take page after page to describe which was actually started by stupid Ayub long ago and later no govt. could correct the situation once started by him ultimately resulting in hatred. If one bought land by fake papers, it's not acceptable on the other hand there's a question why one can't buy property being a citizen of that state. Thing is you are right their life style has to be preserved but if their activities are influenced by some third hand that have to be treated right way. Trust me, before recent incidents started in CHT I myself calculated it whereas I don't have any real idea over hilly area. It's just a sequence that I assumed.

 

[TopCat]

This is why I told it's in a word complex now will take page after page to describe which was actually started by stupid Ayub long ago and later no govt. could correct the situation once started by him ultimately resulting in hatred. If one bought land by fake papers, it's not acceptable on the other hand there's a question why one can't buy property being a citizen of that state. Thing is you are right their life style has to be preserved but if their activities are influenced by some third hand that have to be treated right way. Trust me, before recent incidents started in CHT I myself calculated it whereas I don't have any real idea over hilly area. It's just a sequence that I assumed.

Yu got to go back history to understand why you cant buy land in CHT. First they made the treaty with Mogul and came within Bengal administration where it was agreed that no outsider settlement will be allowed. Then again when they lost to brits and made peace treaty, it was agreed that no bengali settlement will be allowed. The legacy carried by Pakistan and CHT was given a special status. When land settlement was done after the land reform in 1963, CHT was excluded and let them live with their traditional way of land distribution. Chakma Raja supported Pakistan in 1971 for the same reason.

After the independence all previous agreement with Chakma were made void which was not the right approach. As there were no formal land record in CHT which were fully exploited by the Bengali settlers. When it was the duty of the Govt to safeguard the people of CHT according to the previous agreement mades since mogul era, govt itself started patronizing the mass scale settlement. And you know when the beggars and uneducated are allowed in thousands in a area what will happen. They just started a hooligan and taking over the land of tribes. I dont blame tribes for taking up the arms. That was the right thing to do from their part. If you dont stand up for yourself then people will walk over you.

 

[boltu]

I thought you were a english
medium student!

eh,you sound racist !! why should english medium's polapain have all the fun

 

[boltu]

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