New Trending: Bye bye wedding gowns and tuxedos, Chinese traditional style weddings getting increasingly popular in China

[MH.Yang]

Find that hard to believe since the HK were huge on anti-Qing and pro-Ming, and they are mostly cantonese to boot.

Fan covering the face seems awkward and also requires a hand constantly up, this makes them unable to do the 3 kneel/kowtow (ancestor, parents, each other).
I will do some research on this.

Hong Kong movie budgets are so low that Hong Kong directors don't have enough money to study the wedding system and replicate weddings. Those commercial directors will of course choose the wedding ceremonies that Hong Kong people are most familiar with, that is, the weddings of the Qing Dynasty and the Republic of China.

 

[REhorror]

Hong Kong movie budgets are so low that Hong Kong directors don't have enough money to study the wedding system and replicate weddings. Those commercial directors will of course choose the wedding ceremonies that Hong Kong people are most familiar with, that is, the weddings of the Qing Dynasty and the Republic of China.

Aksually:

Honggaitou - Wikiwand

A honggaitou, also shortened to gaitou and referred to as red veil in English, is a traditional red-coloured bridal veil worn by the Han Chinese brides to cover...

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A honggaitou (Chinese: 红盖头; pinyin: hónggàitou), also shortened to gaitou (Chinese: 盖头; pinyin: gàitou; lit. 'head cover')[1] and referred to as red veil in English,[2]: 37  is a traditional red-coloured bridal veil worn by the Han Chinese brides to cover their faces on their wedding ceremony before their wedding night.[2]: 37  The honggaitou is worn along with a red wedding dress.[a][3]: 560  Veils have been used in China since the Han dynasty.[4]: 202  The custom of wearing the honggaitou for wedding ceremonies can be traced back to the Song dynasty period.[4]: 202  The custom of wearing the honggaitou, along with the traditional red wedding dress, continues to be practiced in modern-day China. However, under the influence of Western culture and globalization, most Chinese brides nowadays wear white wedding dresses and a white veil, an imitation of Western Christian weddings,[5] instead of the red wedding dresses and honggaitou.[6]

Bruh...

 

[beijingwalker]

My personal impression is red veils are for average people while fan holding is for aristocrats, I could be wrong though.

 

[REhorror]

Meh, it could be true, these dresses are way too detailed and long to be for average people.
They are LARPing as princesses and officials.

This is what I expect as traditional wedding dress for the middle class:

 

[MH.Yang]

Aksually:

Honggaitou - Wikiwand

A honggaitou, also shortened to gaitou and referred to as red veil in English, is a traditional red-coloured bridal veil worn by the Han Chinese brides to cover...

www.wikiwand.com

Bruh...

却扇

却扇

却扇是汉语词语，拼音：què shàn。旧时婚俗。新娘出嫁，须得蒙头遮面，其用意有两种：第一是“遮羞”，第二是“避邪”。

baike.baidu.com

卻扇:古代行婚禮時新婦用扇遮臉，交拜後去之。後用以指完婚。舊時婚俗，新娘 -百科知識中文網

古代行婚禮時新婦用扇遮臉，交拜後去之。後用以指完婚。舊時婚俗，新娘出嫁，須得蒙頭遮面，其用意有兩種:第一是“遮羞”，第二是“避邪”。新娘蓋面的東西除蓋巾外，還有扇子。普通都是用摺扇或縱扇兩種。概述卻扇卻扇，舊時婚俗，新娘出嫁，須得蒙頭遮面，其用意有兩種:第一是“遮羞”，第二是“避邪”。新娘蓋面的東西除蓋巾外，還有扇子。

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[PradoTLC]

Hong Kong adopts weddings from the Qing Dynasty and the Republic of China.
Mainland Chinese prefer Ming, Song and Han Dynasty weddings. The brides in those dynasties used fans to cover their faces instead of red cloth.

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Looks like a very rich culture

 

[LeGenD]

Looks good.

 

[MH.Yang]

My personal impression is red veils are for average people while fan holding is for aristocrats, I could be wrong though.

It is true that soldiers on the Ming and Song frontiers had begun to use red cloths instead of fans (at that time, fans were a luxury item). So the Manchus, who followed the customs of Ming dynasty frontier soldiers, also used red cloth, which led to the use of red cloth throughout the Qing dynasty.

However, in the Song and Ming dynasties, according to Chinese history books and ancient etiquette texts, fans were supposed to be used by families who could afford them.

 

[beijingwalker]

The wedding theme color in Chinese culture is red while in the west is black and white. in the Chinese culture black and white are the theme colors for funerals.

 

[REhorror]

却扇

却扇

却扇是汉语词语，拼音：què shàn。旧时婚俗。新娘出嫁，须得蒙头遮面，其用意有两种：第一是“遮羞”，第二是“避邪”。

baike.baidu.com

卻扇:古代行婚禮時新婦用扇遮臉，交拜後去之。後用以指完婚。舊時婚俗，新娘 -百科知識中文網

古代行婚禮時新婦用扇遮臉，交拜後去之。後用以指完婚。舊時婚俗，新娘出嫁，須得蒙頭遮面，其用意有兩種:第一是“遮羞”，第二是“避邪”。新娘蓋面的東西除蓋巾外，還有扇子。普通都是用摺扇或縱扇兩種。概述卻扇卻扇，舊時婚俗，新娘出嫁，須得蒙頭遮面，其用意有兩種:第一是“遮羞”，第二是“避邪”。新娘蓋面的東西除蓋巾外，還有扇子。

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This is back in the Tang dynasty tho, no mention of it in the Song or Ming dynasty.

Most HK TVB shows are in the Song or Ming dynasty (with some in Qing). So it is factual they used the red veils.

 

[MH.Yang]

The wedding theme color in Chinese culture is red while in the west is black and white. in the Chinese culture black and white are the theme colors of funerals.

That's not true. Chinese weddings aren't always red. It needs to use different colors according to the "五德始终说" in different dynasties.

For example, the Qin Dynasty was "水" and wedding dresses were black. The Jin dynasties were "金" and the wedding dress was white.

五德终始说 - 维基百科，自由的百科全书

zh.m.wikipedia.org

Of course, in Hong Kong movies, all dynasties all use red.

 

[MH.Yang]

This is back in the Tang dynasty tho, no mention of it in the Song or Ming dynasty.

Most HK TVB shows are in the Song or Ming dynasty (with some in Qing). So it is factual they used the red veils.

This is a poem by Liu Zhen, a famous poet of the Song Dynasty, and its "醺醺宿酒殘妝。待付與、溫柔醉鄉。卻扇藏嬌" clearly describes the bride's use of a fan.

柳梢青·七夕:《柳梢青·七夕》是宋代詞人劉鎮的一首詞。文學體裁柳梢青，全 -百科知識中文網

《柳梢青·七夕》是宋代詞人劉鎮的一首詞。文學體裁柳梢青，全詞格調疏朗雋逸，情韻自然流麗。基本信息名稱：《柳梢青·七夕》作者：劉鎮朝代：宋體裁：詞 詩詞原文乾鵲收聲，濕螢度影，庭院秋香。步月移陰，梳雲約翠，人在迴廊。醺醺宿酒殘妝。待付與、溫柔醉鄉。卻扇藏嬌，牽衣索笑，今夜差涼。 詩詞題解自鵲橋乞巧的美麗傳說

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[etylo]

. The Wei and Jin dynasties were "木" and the wedding dress was white.

If they were 木 element, the color should be green, not white.

 

[REhorror]

This is a poem by Liu Zhen, a famous poet of the Song Dynasty, and its "醺醺宿酒殘妝。待付與、溫柔醉鄉。卻扇藏嬌" clearly describes the bride's use of a fan.

柳梢青·七夕:《柳梢青·七夕》是宋代詞人劉鎮的一首詞。文學體裁柳梢青，全 -百科知識中文網

《柳梢青·七夕》是宋代詞人劉鎮的一首詞。文學體裁柳梢青，全詞格調疏朗雋逸，情韻自然流麗。基本信息名稱：《柳梢青·七夕》作者：劉鎮朝代：宋體裁：詞 詩詞原文乾鵲收聲，濕螢度影，庭院秋香。步月移陰，梳雲約翠，人在迴廊。醺醺宿酒殘妝。待付與、溫柔醉鄉。卻扇藏嬌，牽衣索笑，今夜差涼。 詩詞題解自鵲橋乞巧的美麗傳說

www.jendow.com.tw

I'm not sure if it means the bride is using the fan, or the groom uses the fan to pull up the clothes (red veil) for his wife.

That is also another chinese tradition.

 

[MH.Yang]

If they were 木 element, the color should be green, not white.

Among the Chinese "五德始终说", "水" is black, "金" is white, "木" is cyan, "火" is red and "土" is yellow.

I just made a typo. Jin Dynasty is "金", not "木", "金" is white.

I'm not sure if it means the bride is using the fan, or the groom uses the fan to pull up the clothes (red veil) for his wife.

That is also another chinese tradition.

The meaning of this poem is that the groom waited anxiously, and after the bride came back "乞巧", the groom took away the fan used by the bride to cover her face, and then tugged on the bride's clothes and joked with the bride.