new provinces must be made: Altaf Hussain

[Patriots]

because Hazara People don't have militant wings but MQM have... and don`t say this is not the answer Actually this is the right Answer... Do you want to handle Karachi by some militant party??? if yes then go with MQM or Satiynaas karwao do karachi walo ka..

Forget MQM ... Tell me what Karachiite's rigth ... What should be their fate..??? Should they live under wadera's influence....??

ok it`s my mistake... i am Pakistani & urdu speaking now it`s ok? i hope also other Panjabi, Sindhi, Muhajir, balochi, pakhton will feel proud to be called as a Pakistani... but unfortunately they always prefer their caste rather than calling the one identity "Pakistani"

Those are ignorant who speak about ethnicity & proud on it ... We are just Pakistani but this our misfortune that our politicians always use their ethnicity card whether they belong MQM, PMLN, PPP or ANP ... This was worst election of Pakistan ... All people voted for their parties ...........

 

[W.11]

And PTI is the only party that has moved a bill in PA for a new province, the only serious practical step in this regard without making much hype. And you deliberately didn't mention it?

i think you failed to read the thread, MQM already tabled the bill in NA and not some provincial assembly, MQM was also the first one which demanded hazara province along with seraiki and bhawalpur province and not PTI

MQM is also the first which has demanded new pakistani provinces all over the country and demands APC on it

 

[jaibi]

I believe we should become a greater federation but civilly with it being an enhancing experience for our nation rather than being another dirty game

 

[Jazzbot]

i think you failed to read the thread, MQM already tabled the bill in NA and not some provincial assembly, MQM was also the first one which demanded hazara province along with seraiki and bhawalpur province and not PTI

MQM is also the first which has demanded new pakistani provinces all over the country and demands APC on it

Also enlighten us about whether MQM ever talked about making new provinces out of Sindh or dividing Karachi into 2 - 3 parts? That's also need of the time for better and effective management, no?

 

[W.11]

Also enlighten us about whether MQM ever talked about making new provinces out of Sindh or dividing Karachi into 2 - 3 parts? That's also need of the time for better and effective management, no?

MQM people already believe in Karachi as a separate province its other thing that for the time being MQM doesnt want to cause black lash to the sindhis

any province will be tabled with the mutual agreement with all the parties eventually and thats where MQM will raise the issue of every province

why should karachi be divided into different parts?, its one city and not three-four cities until the soviets divide and make a wall on the likes of east and west berlin

 

[Jazzbot]

MQM people already believe in Karachi as a separate province its other thing that for the time being MQM doesnt want to cause black lash to the sindhis

any province will be tabled with the mutual agreement with all the parties eventually and thats where MQM will raise the issue of every province

why should karachi be divided into different parts?, its one city and not three-four cities until the soviets divide and make a wall on the likes of east and west berlin

Karachi is a big city and quite messy too, I believe the situation in Karachi can be effectively improved by dividing it into 2 - 3 cities and this idea is not new its been surfacing around since quite some time now.

About sindh, why MQM seals its lips on creating new provinces out of sindh? If your party is so honest about creating new provinces all over the country then why not start with sindh? Your NA bill in Jan 2013 about New Hazara and South Punjab provinces was busted because of no words about new Sindhi provinces:

Submitting a resolution to the National Assembly for the Hazara and the South Punjab provinces caused an outburst of severe criticism and allegations towards MQM. One of the most important objections to MQM`s stand was that then it was demanding new provinces on administrative basis in the country, why did it reject the possibility of new provinces in Sindh?

When New Provinces, Why Not In Sindh too?

MQM is just doing politics, they have almost no practical contribution in making new provinces because of their tiny presence in NA and Sindh Assembly. That's why your part leaders always brag about new provinces just to cash some brownie points, nothing else. In reality, MQM just want new provinces where it has little or no presence, but in MQM's backyard, they are same old dumb politicians like PPP and other sindhi nationalists who aren't ready to divide sindh into new provinces.

 

[W.11]

Karachi is a big city and quite messy too, I believe the situation in Karachi can be effectively improved by dividing it into 2 - 3 cities and this idea is not new its been surfacing around since quite some time now.

About sindh, why MQM seals its lips on creating new provinces out of sindh? If your party is so honest about creating new provinces all over the country then why not start with sindh? Your NA bill in Jan 2013 about New Hazara and South Punjab provinces was busted because of no words about new Sindhi provinces:



When New Provinces, Why Not In Sindh too?

MQM is just doing politics, they have almost no practical contribution in making new provinces because of their tiny presence in NA and Sindh Assembly. That's why your part leaders always brag about new provinces just to cash some brownie points, nothing else. In reality, MQM just want new provinces where it has little or no presence, but in MQM's backyard, they are same old dumb politicians like PPP and other sindhi nationalists who aren't ready to divide sindh into new provinces.

yes, the retarded people always speak like that but then again what do we really expect from a party supporter whose leader was too dumb to realise the importance of APC on security measures and instead went to support the asian elephant's cause

since you propose karachi to be divided in 2-3 parts how do you want it to be divided and is it feasible anough because frankly i have heard even dumber ideas from PTIs, not for the first time

 

[shahbaz baig]

Forget MQM ... Tell me what Karachiite's rigth ... What should be their fate..??? Should they live under wadera's influence....??

unfortunately karachiite`s are helpless they have not too much hope either with MQM or with Wadera`s. i don`t see any long lasting solution for karachiite`s bad circumstances.. all parties all are waste and crap except the ideology of PTI...

when MQM call strike in Karachi if you ask from shopkeeper, taxi driver, raksha driver even every karachiite`s in the city then 90% percent will tell you that we shut our work due to fear not due to Love with MQM or love with any other party... that`s y i don't worry dude because we don't need to do too much they are digging the hole for their self.. & Thats what keeps our Faith in the Almighty and the fact that People of Karachi are not STUPID any more. This Cant carry on for ever

 

[Jazzbot]

yes, the retarded people always speak like that but then again what do we really expect from a party supporter whose leader was too dumb to realise the importance of APC on security measures and instead went to support the asian elephant's cause

since you propose karachi to be divided in 2-3 parts how do you want it to be divided and is it feasible anough because frankly i have heard even dumber ideas from PTIs, not for the first time

I knew it was coming, after all as per MQM logic, anyone who talks about Sindh and Karachi in particular is called dumb.

 

[W.11]

I knew it was coming, after all as per MQM logic, anyone who talks about Sindh and Karachi in particular is called dumb.

i want PTI to talk about karachi province, they made hazara, why dont they raise voice for karachi province

you know the day you get elected in karachi, the day you will demand karachi province

its all political beta, as i said, think broader then mere political point scoring in defence.pk

 

[Patriots]

unfortunately karachiite`s are helpless they have not too much hope either with MQM or with Wadera`s. i don`t see any long lasting solution for karachiite`s bad circumstances.. all parties all are waste and crap except the ideology of PTI...

when MQM call strike in Karachi if you ask from shopkeeper, taxi driver, raksha driver even every karachiite`s in the city then 90% percent will tell you that we shut our work due to fear not due to Love with MQM or love with any other party... that`s y i don't worry dude because we don't need to do too much they are digging the hole for their self.. & Thats what keeps our Faith in the Almighty and the fact that People of Karachi are not STUPID any more. This Cant carry on for ever

Remember Karachiites are not helpless while MQM exists ... And alone PTI can't do anything until IK won't leave his stupidity .............

About today strike I have put my point of view here: http://www.defence.pk/forums/national-political-issues/277030-predicted-mqm-first-one-moan-operation-2.html

 

[W.11]

 

[shahbaz baig]

Remember Karachiites are not helpless while MQM exists ... And alone PTI can't do anything until IK won't leave his stupidity .............

i have read your point of view about strike and i agree with that... but disagree regarding MQM... only MQM`s Members are not helpless in the presence of MQM in karachi not the karachiite`s.. i think you forgot that moment when MQM crying for their leader altaf hussain in london and protest against the blame and claimed the "AHTIJAAJ" all over the world.. then why didn`t MQM record the "AHTIJAAJ" infront of world`s media while 5000 killing of innocent people in karachi??? because they prefer only protect their Leaders, MPA`s, X-MPA`s and nothing to do with karachiite`s in reality & just use karachiite`s for Politically.. we are not fools dude enough is enough...

 

[W.11]

 

[Slayer786]

hahaha, tum jaise logon ke waja se he mulk ke yeah haalat he, ache logon ko tum jute maarte ho, aur crooks ko apne kandhe peh betha ker elect kerwaate ho

every pakistani doesnt hate MQM, only few brainwashed kids

I am from Karachi. I am a urdu-speaking sindhi. I like what MQM has done in the past 15 years or so. But if you go outside karachi, the people dislike MQM. That is the reality. I have spoken to many punjabis, pashtuns and all have this image of MQM being a party of goons collecting hafta from businesses and killing rivals who dare to raise a voice. A very bad image indeed.

Now to the other members suggesting that provinces should not be divided based on ethnicity, but just upgrade divisions to provinces. No referendum should take place. Can you give an example of how that will work and where can that happen? Which area would be made into a province out of a division?