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ISLAMABAD: India's representative to Pakistan said on Monday that his country was only prepared to discuss the part of Kashmir controlled by Islamabad in upcoming peace talks, presenting a potential stumbling block days after the dialogue was announced.

High commissioner T.C.A. Raghavan made the remarks about the disputed territory during a lecture in the Pakistani capital, after a breakthrough visit by India's foreign minister at which the resumption of ministerial talks was announced.

According to a joint statement, the two sides will talk about peace and security as well as territorial disputes including Kashmir. Each country occupies part of the territory but claims it in full.

Asked where the room for negotiation lay over the Himalayan territory, Raghavan said it was India which first petitioned the United Nations to intervene when the-then princely state of Jammu and Kashmir was invaded by Pakistani forces in 1947.

“The first application was moved by India and it was on the grounds that a part of the state, which had acceded to India, is now under the illegal occupation of the Pakistan army.

“So when you say what is it that India is going to discuss or what is it discussing, it is really, if you ask most Indians, and what is our position — it is the part of that state which is still under the control of Pakistan."

The remarks could create a diplomatic wrinkle for the two countries as they seek to go back to the negotiation table to undertake broad-spectrum talks for the first time since the election of prime ministers Narendra Modi and Nawaz Sharif.

Badar Alam, editor of Pakistan's political Herald magazine, said: “I think it is a step back,” adding that Kashmir was viewed internationally as a disputed territory.

He added that given the fragile state of the dialogue, officials on both sides needed to tread “very cautiously and very carefully” to avoid a backlash.

New Delhi suspended all talks after gunmen attacked the Indian city of Mumbai in November 2008, killing 166 people.

The countries agreed to resume the peace process in 2011 but tensions have spiked over the past two years, with cross-border shelling over the disputed border in Kashmir claiming dozens of lives since 2014.

A brief meeting between Sharif and his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi on the sidelines of the UN climate change summit in Paris on November 30, followed by talks between the two countries' national security advisers in Bangkok, appeared to have broken the ice.
 
T.C.A. Raghavan. PHOTO: FILE

ISLAMABAD: India’s representative to Pakistan said on Monday his country was only prepared to discuss the part of Kashmir controlled by Islamabad in upcoming peace talks, presenting a potential stumbling block days after the dialogue was announced.

High commissioner TCA Raghavan made the remarks about the disputed territory during a lecture in the capital, after a breakthrough visit by India’s foreign minister Sushma Swaraj at which the resumption of ministerial talks was announced.

According to a joint statement, the two sides will talk about peace and security as well as territorial disputes including Kashmir. Each country occupies part of the territory but claims it in full.

‘Secret diplomacy’ on the cards for Kashmir

Asked where the room for negotiation lay over the Himalayan territory, Raghavan said it was India which first petitioned the United Nations to intervene when the-then princely state of Jammu and Kashmir was invaded by Pakistani forces in 1947.

“The first application was moved by India and it was on the grounds that a part of the state, which had acceded to India, is now under the illegal occupation.

Sushma Swaraj briefs Indian lawmakers on Pakistan visit

“So when you say what is it that India is going to discuss or what is it discussing, it is really, if you ask most Indians, and what is our position – it is the part of that state which is still under the control of Pakistan.”

The remarks could create a diplomatic wrinkle for the two countries as they seek to go back to the negotiation table to undertake broad-spectrum talks for the first time since the election of prime ministers Narendra Modi and Nawaz Sharif.

Badar Alam, editor of Herald magazine, said: “I think it is a step back,” adding that Kashmir was viewed internationally as a disputed territory.

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He added that given the fragile state of the dialogue, officials on both sides needed to tread “very cautiously and very carefully” to avoid a backlash.

New Delhi suspended all talks after gunmen attacked Mumbai in November 2008, killing 166 people.

The countries agreed to resume the peace process in 2011 but tensions have spiked over the past two years, with cross-border shelling over the disputed border in Kashmir claiming dozens of lives since 2014.

A brief meeting between premier Nawaz and his Indian counterpart Narendra Modi on the sidelines of the UN climate change summit in Paris on November 30, followed by talks between the two countries’ national security advisers in Bangkok, appeared to have broken the ice.

India only set to discuss Pakistan-controlled Kashmir: diplomat - The Express Tribune
 
We all know Kashmir is an internationally disputed territory under UN.As per UN Kashmir dispute must be solved bilaterally by Pakistan and India. It doesn't matter what India thinks or believe. Kashmir will remain disputed. I believe discussing Pak Kashmir this time isn't bad in favor of Pakistan. I am 100 percent sure Pak Kashmir including GB people will choose Pakistan over India (there is no as such rebellion in Azad Kashmir or GB against Pakistan Government; wanting to be part of India, emphatic win for Pakistan is guaranteed) . After claiming Pak Kashmir, Pakistan should move forward for IoK, this will develop international pressure on India,they will give in for talks, that way Pakistan will re-claim Kashmir in its entirety.
 
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Pakistan know that they would never get Kashmir,that is why saving their face by talks.
 
We all know Kashmir is an internationally disputed territory under UN.As per UN Kashmir dispute must be solved bilaterally by Pakistan and India. It doesn't matter what India thinks or believe. Kashmir will remain disputed. I believe discussing Pak Kashmir this time isn't bad in favor of Pakistan. I am 100 percent sure Pak Kashmir including GB people will choose Pakistan over India. After claiming Pak Kashmir, Pakistan should move forward for IoK, this will develop international pressure on India,they will give in for talks, that way Pakistan will re-claim Kashmir in its entirety.
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We all know Kashmir is an internationally disputed territory under UN.As per UN Kashmir dispute must be solved bilaterally by Pakistan and India. It doesn't matter what India thinks or believe. Kashmir will remain disputed. I believe discussing Pak Kashmir this time isn't bad in favor of Pakistan. I am 100 percent sure Pak Kashmir including GB people will choose Pakistan over India. After claiming Pak Kashmir, Pakistan should move forward for IoK, this will develop international pressure on India,they will give in for talks, that way Pakistan will re-claim Kashmir in its entirety.

Kabhi USA kabhi UN kabhi Ummah leke degi enko Kashmir!!

Khisiyani billi khamba nooche ....Aree dum ho to leke dikhao !!
 
yes well we can discuss anything that is required, but the thing is, Kashmir is an Integral part of Pakistan, so yeah, tough luck :D
 
We all know Kashmir is an internationally disputed territory under UN.As per UN Kashmir dispute must be solved bilaterally by Pakistan and India. It doesn't matter what India thinks or believe. Kashmir will remain disputed. I believe discussing Pak Kashmir this time isn't bad in favor of Pakistan. I am 100 percent sure Pak Kashmir including GB people will choose Pakistan over India. After claiming Pak Kashmir, Pakistan should move forward for IoK, this will develop international pressure on India,they will give in for talks, that way Pakistan will re-claim Kashmir in its entirety.

I think its been removed from UN List

Kashmir issue left unmentioned in United Nations - The Express Tribune
Jammu and Kashmir out of U.N. list of disputes - The Hindu

What you sayig doesn't count.. you don't go and ask the people in P^K whether to join India or Pakistan, you need to Unite Kashmir and ask them. There'll be not a Single international Pressure on India. Pakistan tried for this for a long time running from US to China... Not a Single Stuff happened. and will never happen... India is not some weak state
 
I think its been removed from UN List

Kashmir issue left unmentioned in United Nations - The Express Tribune
Jammu and Kashmir out of U.N. list of disputes - The Hindu

What you sayig doesn't count.. you don't go and ask the people in P^K whether to join India or Pakistan, you need to Unite Kashmir and ask them. There'll be not a Single international Pressure on India. Pakistan tried for this for a long time running from US to China... Not a Single Stuff happened. and will never happen... India is not some weak state
It did removed from UN dispute list, in context UN has no role in solving Kashmir issue, UN never said Kashmir is solved dispute. It is still disputed territory under UN, which must be solved by Pakistan and India.

You can't make decisions on behalf of Kashmiris. Kashmiris will sure be consulted like before.
 
Acha bhai wohi discuss kr lo :P Hm Indian occoupied Kashmir discuss kr lein gey :D
 
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