Nawaz will go to IMF - Imran will collect taxes: Choice is yours

[Kompromat]

Interesting.

I've heard that in Iran there are so many government agencies that monitor each other (including the Ayatollah), that its almost impossible for any Goverment body or person to get away with anything. That's checks and balance for you. No wonder their country has managed to fend off all foreign dictates for more than three decades.

We don't want to make Pakistan a fear ridden, black coat controlled state. There can be reasonable accountability without turning Pakistan into a big brother state like Iran or other countries, as far as i have been told, PTI's Insaf research wing is in contact with some leading Swedish software house to jointly develop a software based,fully firewalled, E-governance apparatus to replace obsolete service methods and to save wasteful spending on ministries,departments and services we can simply control by e-governance with minimal staff now.

As for foreign influence, we cannot get rid if it until we have an independent robust, self feeding economy. We are a nuclear power, frankly no one can afford to mess with us anymore, that gives us the chance to become a state that fabricates and navigates its own F.policy at its own will,given the independent economy.

 

[Rusty]

Raise taxes or acctually collect what is already owed? You talk about raising and people get nervous you talk about stopping the rich and powerfull walking away from their obligations while the salary guy ponies up you have a very different scenario.

Bad use of wording on my party, collecting taxes, Imran Khan has been abundantly clear that he will not raise taxes but simply collect them.
The this is, Pakistanis will be more than happy to pay their fair share of taxes as long as they know that tax money is being spent on them, no one pays taxes right now because that money just goes to politicians bank accounts.
All Imran has to do is show the people (transparency laws) that their taxes are not being misused and most will willingly pay their fair share.
The rest have law enforcement to encourage them

 

[fjavaid]

Based on what?
Nawaz has been in power for nearly 30 years and he has not been able to do squat.
Pakistan pays some of the lowest Tax to GDP rate and that is thanks to Nawaz and his buddy Zardari.

Imran Khan's plan to raise taxes is much more sustainable and palatable for the people of Pakistan since they will not be borrowing money.

#Joke of the day #IK will collect taxes..every #IK project runs on zakat,kharat ..#PTi itself runs on donations ha ha ..n #IK will free #Pak from loan ...Dream on ..... ..

 

[Rusty]

#Joke of the day #IK will collect taxes..every #IK project runs on zakat,kharat ..#PTi itself runs on donations ha ha ..n #IK will free #Pak from loan ...Dream on ..... ..

and?
what's your point?

I realize that you might be too stupid to understand this, but it is the right and duty of the government to collect taxes.
That fact that PEE PEE PEE and Noura league have not done so just shows how corrupt and incompetent they are.

 

[tarrar]

If anybody want's me write that down for you, I will write it that GOD forbid if this ganja patwari wins these elections then he will go to IMF, he will rob Pakistan & he will bow down to his foreign masters for DOLLARS.

I don't know if Imran Khan is going to do what he says he is going to do but the people trust him to do the right thing which is to serve only Pakistan & not the enemies of Pakistan.

 

[SBD-3]

well failed to expose nawaz shareef's corruption, he should have made a team of solicitors and economists and tried to find proofs of what he claimed, if he had exposed shareef and did some media propaganda it was a lot better, the truth is punjabis are still in illusion that shahbaz nawaz period was the best for punjab and thus they should be given votes

It isn't that it was the best of all. But it was certainly was the best of the rest at its time.
Secondly PML N has induced (whether by choice or by force, either way good for the people) some fresh names in her economic team. Dr Miftah Ismail, Zubair Umar etc are just a few new faces induced in economic policmaking. Even they contacted and consulted Dr Asim Khwaja of Haward for setting up economic policy centre housed in Punjab University. PTI has done the same but their team is still unknown except Asad Umar.
Pakistan's biggest problem and reason for dependency on IMF is that our External Account is negative. Raising Taxes help domestic economy but defeating dependence on IMF would require external account re-engineering. Our FPI and FDI are dwindling due to poor law and order situation which investors primarily require, our imports are inelastic. Our exports are hurt by power-shortage, high inflation-high wage spirals, low value add etc. The issue is much more challenging than just raising taxes. Unless the external account is not re-engineered to positive, we will always have to go to IMF no matter how many taxes we raise domestically.
P:S. Technically speaking IMF doesn't provide loan. They provide Balance of Payment support. Thus the funds provided by IMF are only available for bridging BoP deficits. Thus if a country's Balance of Payment and Trading account turns surplus, She would not need IMF.

 

[BATMAN]

Will Imran Khan charge, multi billion dollar Indian transit trade?

Can any PTI senior member answer this simple question?

 

[darkinsky]

It isn't that it was the best of all. But it was certainly was the best of the rest at its time.

best from the rest, right, but which one was better the PMLN 5 years from 2008 till 2013 or PMLQ 2002-2008?

 

[SBD-3]

Will Imran Khan charge, multi billion dollar Indian transit trade?

Can any PTI senior member answer this simple question?

with Afghanistan seriously? Their total economy is worth 19.18 Billion USD.
https://www.google.com.pk/publicdat...dim=country:AFG&dl=en&hl=en&q=afghanistan gdp

 

[dabong1]

Nawaz has been in power for nearly 30 years and he has not been able to do squat.

Well actually nawaz has not been in "power" for 30 years.
17 February 1997 – 12 October 1999------30 odd months in power
6 November 1990 – 18 July 1993------18 odd months in power

Pakistan pays some of the lowest Tax to GDP rate and that is thanks to Nawaz and his buddy Zardari.

And what about musharaff?......was he not in total power for nearly 10 years and could have done what he wanted on the tax issue.

 

[livingdead]

He's wrong. PTI's official economic policy [PDF File] Is to raise the "tax blanket" not raise "tax ratio". Only 2% Pakistanis pay taxes which we wish to raise to 15% in 5 years and gradually increase it to greater % as the economy grows. Raising tax ratio will have a knock on affect on a partially industrialized economy like us, aspiring to become a fully industrialized economy in next 20-30 years.

we are talking about gdp to tax ratio, not tax rate. No party has promised to increased tax rate which mean they want more people under tax net.
Basically PTI and PML-N promises are same in this regard. And both are over ambitious. We will see after 1 year of whoever comes to power.

 

[SBD-3]

best from the rest, right, but which one was better the PMLN 5 years from 2008 till 2013 or PMLQ 2002-2008?

Well both had their merits and constraints and both were good for the people of Punjab. Even when PML N came in power, Q had already set some benchmarks for them to beat. And this is what has been missing in other provinces, a positive political competition.

 

[BATMAN]

with Afghanistan seriously? Their total economy is worth 19.18 Billion USD.
https://www.google.com.pk/publicdat...dim=country:AFG&dl=en&hl=en&q=afghanistan gdp

Dear there economy may be 20 billion (Afghanistan is rich in minerals) but they get trillion dollar aid from US.
Its largely a consumer market, but the issue is official smuggling in Pakistan in the name of Afghan transit supplies from India.
We need to remove all smuggled goods from market before asking Pakistanis to pay tax.

 

[Argus Panoptes]

Have you read the Economic policy?

Yes, I have Sir. It is still unclear to me how the number of taxpayers can be increased seven to eight times in five years. Could you please suggest a possible way of implementing such a huge increase?

 

[darkinsky]

Well both had their merits and constraints and both were good for the people of Punjab. Even when PML N came in power, Q had already set some benchmarks for them to beat. And this is what has been missing in other provinces, a positive political competition.

who much investment PMLN was able to bring in punjab, how many industries were set up and what about the electricity load shedding? except making roads and underpasses and danish schools and few other silly stuff, how did they help the punjab economy growth?

while other provinces grew at a rate of 3% punjab grew at 2.5%

not to mention with the 18th amendment punjab got a lot of funds because of provincial autonomy