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While Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif is packing his bags for his upcoming US visit and giving final touches to various briefs and talking points, it is increasingly being felt that all is not sugar and honey between the two long-term allies. And if there was any doubt, Pakistan’s NSA has confirmed it by alleging that the US is fanning instability in the South Asian region. Days before his departure for Washington DC, Mr. Sartaj Aziz said that the US can maintain whatever kind of relations it wishes to with India, but at a time when Pak-India relations are tense, the super power should not increase strategic and conventional imbalance in the region to the extent that there is a threat to regional security. He said that many countries, including the US, wanted Pakistan and India to resolve their issues through dialogue, but for that it was important there was no regional imbalance.

This statement sets the mood for talks to be held between Pakistan and the US and it clearly shows that, if there is no Ufa again, both are going to talk tough. Pakistani delegation comprises of heavyweights like the PM, COAS, NSA and DG ISI. The catchphrase used by Aziz is (strategic and conventional) imbalance. It means that Pakistan would do whatever it takes to resist it wing-clipping. The talks are about security; of Pakistan and its strategic assets. The only thing Pakistani side will need to deal with its hosts would be diplomatic excellence and political shrewdness.

Does this mean that the Americans are trying to put their entire weight behind India and will try their level best to make Pakistan accept Indian hegemony in the region? Absolutely. Do they really want Pakistan to restrict its nuclear arsenal? Yes, because that’s how India can attain hegemonic position. Pakistan’s nuclear program is admittedly of superior quality which can deal with any type of threats, both strategic and conventional. But it’s not about the entire nuclear development program which the US is worried about.

According to The New York Times, American are concerned that Pakistan might be on the verge of deploying a small tactical nuclear weapon — explicitly modeled on weapons the United States put in Europe during the Cold War to deter a Soviet invasion — that would be far harder to secure than the country’s arsenal of larger weapons. This tactical nuke that the Americans are so worried about is an effective response to conventional threat of Cold Start doctrine to invade Pakistan which India is shortly going into massive military maneuvers to test.

Whatever the pressure tactics and arm-twisting, Pakistan would not budge on any of the demands relating to its nuclear arsenal. The tactical nukes like Nasr are Pakistan’s effective and credible deterrence against any misadventure from India which Pakistan cannot give up. Pakistan’s tactical nukes not only strengthen Pakistan’s defenses, these also reinforce the defenses of China with which India shares a troubled border. It is now a well-known fact that the Americans have outsourced its China-containment enterprise to India in return for a Civil Nuclear Deal. For this purpose, the US will strengthen India to make it a bully in the South Asia and Far East Asian region. Pakistan is the only stumbling block and it’s important for the US, for its own sake as much as for the sake of India, to put a cap on Pakistan’s nuclear development which effectively means try to deprive Pakistanis of their competitive advantage over India of having a solid fuelled tactical ballistic missile named Nasr.

Nasr is not the only reason for Pak-America strained relations; Pakistan, a Cold War ally of the Americans, may have outlived its utility because it was good to fight the Cold War against USSR or Afghan Jihad but it is totally unsuited to China-containment. Conversely, Pakistan is strengthening Chinese economy through China Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC) which will provide a shorter land distance to China to import oil and export commercial goods. A prospering Chinese economy is not only an economic but also a military threat to both India and the US. Besides, CPEC will also boost Pakistan’s economy reducing its dependence on American aid or multilateral loans. That the effectively independent Pakistan is of no use to Uncle Sam has already dawned on their strategists. It would, therefore, serve American interests if the region, particularly Pakistan’s Balochistan province remains unstable.

Balochistan is a resource rich but most backward province of Pakistan. There was always one insurgency or the other to keep Pakistan or its allies from exploration of mineral wealth. The tribal chiefs first fought for USSR and then US-India-Afghanistan-UAE nexus with each country having its own interests in the province. The province has China-built deep-sea port of Gwadar which will realize Chinese dreams of CPEC. When fully developed with associated network of railways and roads, the port will potentially hit hard the commercial interests of Dubai trans-shipment port. If developed as a naval base, it also fits into the String of Pearls strategy so well that it effectively defeats the encirclement doctrine of India.

CPEC envisages transforming Balochistan with nearly everyone having access to basic necessities of life. Pakistan’s para-military forces have already successfully curbed India-funded insurgency with most of insurgents having surrendered already. People of Balochistan have first right of ownership of the mineral wealth of the province and the government has to make explorations which jobs seems would be undertaken by Chinese. This would be another reason why the US and its allies should want to fan instability in the region.

Afghanistan is a country where the US wanted to establish a foothold of influence to be expanded further to Central Asia. It invaded Afghanistan to change Taliban regime in 2001 but has miserably failed. After wasting 14 years and trillions of dollars of taxpayers’ money which literally has gone down the drain, Taliban still rule the roost. Their recent advances in areas close to Central Asia and NATO’s senseless bombing of a civilian hospital in Kunduz shows the frustration the US is undergoing for an unsuccessful Afghanistan adventure. Pakistan was a key to the solution of problem of Afghanistan with Taliban brought around for negotiation which was sabotaged by RAW and NDS because India would not allow Pakistan’s influence through the Taliban. Pakistan is being expected to bomb Afghan Taliban and bringing them to negotiations at the same time. A stable Afghanistan effectively means Pakistan’s increased role in development and reconstruction of the country leading to enhanced level of influence.

With Iran hinting its willingness to join CPEC and Russia to tag along, CPEC can build a new economic alliance in the region comprising the partners like China, Pakistan, Iran and Russia. This could potentially be detrimental to the interest of India and the US in the region. It would be nightmarish to see Pakistan warming up to Russia, particularly when Russia has shed its isolation and set the boots on the ground in Syria.

The upcoming visit of Pakistan’s delegation to the US would be tough, challenging and interesting. It would be more interesting to see how Pakistan’s tactical nukes govern its strategic relations with its erstwhile ally.

Five Reasons why the US fans instability in South Asia | The Passive Voices
 
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Days before his departure for Washington DC, Mr. Sartaj Aziz said that the US can maintain whatever kind of relations it wishes to with India, but at a time when Pak-India relations are tense, the super power should not increase strategic and conventional imbalance in the region to the extent that there is a threat to regional security.

Wow someone is awake realizing his spot is being offered to someone else. As NSA his first ever statement matching his post i think.
 
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Pakistan should look after its interests just like the Americans or any other country would. Whether the Americans are unhappy about that is no concern to us. End of discussion.
 
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This article describes clearly the biases of baba America and how it is putting its weight on our sworn enemy. Once a traitor, always a traitor. US is a treasonous state using its power to build a world that suits its desires. They do not care who they crush for this purpose.

The tilt of America towards India is not just worrying but also an attempt to alter the military balance of the region. They abandoned their ally Pakistan and are providing India with all sorts of weapons.

What Sartaj aziz did was squeak against the USA. What we need is to shout against the US and develop our own independent policy. If they talk about sanctions on us, which are to repay our $100 billion + losses in the war on terror (we got less than 18 billion aid by the way-no way to recoup our losses) we should talk about closing the border and refusing to allow any supplies going to US troops in Afghanistan-cutting them off.

We need to arm wrangle the Americans like they do us. They are the biggest bully and terrorist state ever found on the planet.
 
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This is a very crucial stage. I think if Pakistani leadership does not get their required results from these talks, they should seriously think focusing on China-Russia-Pakistan alliance. Running blindly behind US will only waist our time. Pakistan must:
1. resolve its energy crisis
2. Complete CPEC asap
3. Keep kicking Taliban
4. Be more active in SCO

Apart from above, Pakistan should also try resume its diplomatic relations with India on bilateral basis. Try to bring India on table and at least keep the momentum going. Resolution of issues b/w Pak/India does not support US designs (containment of China) in the region, both India and Pak must understand this and must not become fools in the hands of Yankees.
 
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The Americans have already lost Pakistan as an ally. Pakistan's tilt towards China and Russia is what is bothering the Yanks. Besides, Yanks got trouble with everyone. From ISIS to Russia and other major world problems. The Americans are too crazy and proud to acknowledge the mess they have created for themselves and the whole world.
 
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The Americans have already lost Pakistan as an ally. Pakistan's tilt towards China and Russia is what is bothering the Yanks. Besides, Yanks got trouble with everyone. From ISIS to Russia and other major world problems. The Americans are too crazy and proud to acknowledge the mess they have created for themselves and the whole world.

Yakees are stuck in Afghanistan. The complete Afghan govt. machinery will collapse in few days if they leave now. The purpose of these talks is to pressurize Pakistan to bring Taliban on table, make some hybrid govt. and get the *** out of Afghanistan. Or at least put the maximum blame on Pakistan for not fighting their war. They also want the world to believe (in which they are very successful) that Taliban are controlled by Pakistani establishment via remote control.

All these things are going to pressurize Pakistan to "DO MORE". Lets see how our PM neutralizes this pressure.
 
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Yakees are stuck in Afghanistan. The complete Afghan govt. machinery will collapse in few days if they leave now. The purpose of these talks is to pressurize Pakistan to bring Taliban on table, make some hybrid govt. and get the *** out of Afghanistan. Or at least put the maximum blame on Pakistan for not fighting their war. They also want the world to believe (in which they are very successful) that Taliban are controlled by Pakistani establishment via remote control.

All these things are going to pressurize Pakistan to "DO MORE". Lets see how our PM neutralizes this pressure.

The Americans have major problems. They are trying to scrape together a coalition which can take on the ISIS. Mind you, ISIS which came into existence after the invasion of Iraq. They have a few of their traditional allies bombing in Syria, but expectedly insufficient. There is no appetite from the rest of the world to join this war. Also, the American people are war fatigued after the adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan. So many lives lost and so much money wasted. The world was supposed to become a safer place. At least, that was the promise... First there was AQ, then the Taliban and now ISIS. The world is not a safer place.

To add more misery, the Afghan Taliban are making a comeback in Afghanistan. The brazen attack in Kunduz shook everyone by surprise. Russia is becoming more assertive in Syria/Ukraine and walking all over the US. The US had to literally beg the Iranians to accept a nuclear deal recently and there is a lot of discontent from many quarters. A staunch ally Israel has been sidelined in the process. The list of problems goes on endlessly. The last thing the Americans should be worrying about is Pakistan. Trump is as mad as they come, but he is right about one thing. He is right when he says that no one respects the US any more.

It's very telling when a man like Trump leads the polls... It tells us something about the sentiment in that country.
 
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Are they worried about Nasr or anything much smaller which is in pipeline & Americans know about it?
 
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It's very telling when a man like Trump leads the polls... It tells us something about the sentiment in that country.

US elections are are puppet show anyways, doesn't matter how mad comes into power, the policy will remain same. The military-industrial complex at action.
 
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Are they worried about Nasr or anything much smaller which is in pipeline & Americans know about it?
Actually they are concerned about the whole situation ?they want a domination of Indian +american allience in south east Asia against China ?
Which has supported & made Pakistan a havey duty fighting widget on itself ?
They want to dismantle Pakistan ,s fighting ability to just on a level of low level defence ?
So they can play the same siryan drama here ?
But Pakistani missile tech ,with its small warheads on them is what making them afraid , which they think can destroy Indian over projected & artificial supermecy ?
Even though , they have made India ditch their decades old allies like Russia to counter China , it all played back ?
& it all caused a bigger united front joining 2giants like Russia & China to counter that hidden agenda of CIA ?
Its a long written script which some old stupids believed ?
When damocrazy was installed back into Pakistan after musharaf rule , first promises asked from PPP& PMLn s leadership by CIA was to agree & sign the roll back of all of its nuclear tech .
make good live drama kill or capture of OBL & become another stalite state living with a remote control back in pentagon ?
BB made that promise , but after her arrival to Pakistan denied it ?
cause she knew well that pak-army won't let her do it alive ?
She became an example , by CIA conspirated plan , which her greedy husband executed with the help of few , low level but CIA trained party terrorist s , like KHALID SHANSHAA ?
now its MIAN NAWAZ shareefs trun to execute the promised plan & he is sournded by ISI ,s unseen angels ?
He is afraid , he is confussd , he don't really know what he should do now ?
 
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Actually they are concerned about the whole situation ?they want a domination of Indian +american allience in south east Asia against China ?
Which has supported & made Pakistan a havey duty fighting widget on itself ?
They want to dismantle Pakistan ,s fighting ability to just on a level of low level defence ?
So they can play the same siryan drama here ?
But Pakistani missile tech ,with its small warheads on them is what making them afraid , which they think can destroy Indian over projected & artificial supermecy ?
Even though , they have made India ditch their decades old allies like Russia to counter China , it all played back ?
& it all caused a bigger united front joining 2giants like Russia & China to counter that hidden agenda of CIA ?
Its a long written script which some old stupids believed ?
When damocrazy was installed back into Pakistan after musharaf rule , first promises asked from PPP& PMLn s leadership by CIA was to agree & sign the roll back of all of its nuclear tech .
make good live drama kill or capture of OBL & become another stalite state living with a remote control back in pentagon ?
BB made that promise , but after her arrival to Pakistan denied it ?
cause she knew well that pak-army won't let her do it alive ?
She became an example , by CIA conspirated plan , which her greedy husband executed with the help of few , low level but CIA trained party terrorist s , like KHALID SHANSHAA ?
now its MIAN NAWAZ shareefs trun to execute the promised plan & he is sournded by ISI ,s unseen angels ?
He is afraid , he is confussd , he don't really know what he should do now ?
I stopped reading halfway.

So many conspiracy theories dude.
 
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I stopped reading halfway.

So many conspiracy theories dude.
OBL drama & MEMOGATE SCANDLE are few miles stones for those , who never believed in this world of conspiracies ?
Sorry , friend we don't live in a perfect world ?
If it was , then today we wouldn't had any of IRAQ , AFGHANISTAN , LIBYA , SIRYA , KASHMIR , PALESTINE ?
& just today !



US resolution calls for supporting democracy in Pakistan - Pakistan - DAWN.COM
why the hell , America is dying for democracy in Pakistan ?
Oh cause it knows well , most of our political elites are croupt or even if not , their future lives in dam western world ?
So , they can control them better then any military dictator , who always played double games with them ?lolzz
 
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