NATO ‘Worried’ about Turkey’s Plans to Deploy S-400

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Lol so you mean it’s because you are not self sufficient as of yet?
Hmmmm....if so every developing country should be part of NATO since almost all of them are not self sufficient .

what about PESCO ? MACRON said that PESCO will be against Russia,China and The US

let allow Germany to become self sufficient including nuclear weapon then see what will happen , Germany will say fck of the US and NATO

35.000 - 40.000 American soldiers control Germany .. even France doesnt like the US

NATO is joke and useless , NATO is working for only American interests , nothing else
and Germany,France,Turkey and many more dont trust the US

so Turkey should develop 100% defense industry including Nuclear Weapon to protect itself and ERDOGAN is doing this

 

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when Turkey develops 100% defense industry including Nuclear Weapon then we will do what we want

Nuclear weapon? OK,Mr MME, that means never.

 

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Nuclear weapon? OK,Mr MME, that means never.

never say never

sooner or later Iran,S.Arabia and Turkey will get nuclear weapons

 

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what about PESCO ? MACRON said that PESCO will be against Russia,China and The US

let allow Germany to become self sufficient including nuclear weapon then see what will happen , Germany will say fck of the US and NATO

35.000 - 40.000 American soldiers control Germany .. even France doesnt like the US

NATO is joke and useless , NATO is working for only American interests , nothing else
and Germany,France,Turkey and many more dont trust the US

so Turkey should develop 100% defense industry including Nuclear Weapon to protect itself and ERDOGAN is doing this

Most of your points are inconsistent. I don’t even know from where to start. Seems you are quite emotional about your Kurdish issue (which is understandable) reason you tend to hold some rather exaggerated views about Western powers and Israel.
All I can say is that , I believe your leaders know more about your country’s situation and position than you I guess. So I believe they have their reason for not quitting NATO despite all their grandstanding and verbal rebuke against NATO and western powers. They know that the gains outweighs the loss I guess.

so Turkey should develop 100% defense industry including Nuclear Weapon to protect itself and ERDOGAN is doing this

Old boy, develop nuclear weapons ? This shows that you have lost it completely. I don’t even know how to answer this one. Lol.
Just know that Turkey doesn’t need to develop nuclear weapons since they are already covered under NATO’S nuclear umbrella. Secondly , let’s say hypothetically (won’t happen anyway) they decided to quit NATO and develop nuclear weapons. Then believe me Turkey will find itself in Iran’s position ( isolated, economic and military embargoes will be imposed, its economy will be in chaos/depression as EU and Western powers will sanction and cut them off from trade etc) or maybe even worse .
So it won’t be worth it at all, and your leaders know this very well.

 

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Most of your points are inconsistent. I don’t even know from where to start. Seems you are quite emotional about your Kurdish issue (which is understandable) reason you tend to hold some rather exaggerated views about Western powers and Israel.
All I can say is that , I believe your leaders know more about your country’s situation and position than you I guess. So I believe they have their reason for not quitting NATO despite all their grandstanding and verbal rebuke against NATO and western powers. They know that the gains outweighs the loss I guess.

dont change my point I am talking about PESCO and treacherous the US .. what about PESCO ?


without the US and the EU support PKK/YPG terrorist organization can not survive even 1 year

after 1991 the US and the UK created terror corridor in N.Iraq
and Pkk terrorists always attacked Turkey from Pkk terror camps in N.Iraq and Turkey lost tens of thousands of citizens and hundreds of billions of dollars

and what the hell the US , the UK and France are doing in Syria under the mask of fighting against ISIS ?

first ISIS invaded cities in Syria then PKK/YPG took cities under the mask of fighting ISIS
RESULT : now around 30% of Syrian territory is belong to the US and Israel and they wants to destroy Syria's territorial integrity

now the US-the UK-France soldiers are in Syria to create another terror corridor against Turkey
and the US gave over 29.000 trucks and 4.000 cargo planes of weapons to 70.000+ Pkk/Ypg terrorists to attack Turkey

Thanks to the Turkish Army that entered Syria and blocked the US-the UK-France backed terror corridor in N.Syria



and yes Our leaders know more about our country’s situation and position and Turkey buys S-400 , many more weapons from Russia to protect national interests , territorial integrity and Turkish People from blood thursty terrorist supporter traitor NATO members the US , the UK , France , Germany , Italy and their terrorist friends PKK/YPG , FETO and their bandit friends Greece , Egypt and Israel

ust know that Turkey doesn’t need to develop nuclear weapons since they are already covered under NATO’S nuclear umbrella. Secondly , let’s say hypothetically (won’t happen anyway) they decided to quit NATO and develop nuclear weapons. Then believe me Turkey will find itself in Iran’s position ( isolated, economic and military embargoes will be imposed, its economy will be in chaos/depression as EU and Western powers will sanction and cut them off from trade etc) or maybe even worse .

threat comes to Turkey and Turkish People from terrorist supporter traitor NATO members the US , the UK , France , Germany , Italy ( They declared war on Turkey via terrorist organizations PKK/YPG , DHKPC , FETO to destroy Turkey's territorial integrity .... They support bandit countries such as Greece , Egypt , Israel to steal gas reserves from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean )


it does not matter , Turkey doesnt develop nuclear weapon but still economic and military embargoes , attacks Turkish economy , military coups , to create chaos in Turkey , to support terrorist organizations to destroy Turkish economy and territorial integrity , etc , etc , etc

better to develop nuclear weapon

because of the US has started military embargo ( since 2013 the US senate block sale of arms to Turkey , even pistols )

Turkish economy is under attack by the US since 2013 and 1 USD has risen to 6.2 from 1.8 ( since 2013 Turkish economy lost over $500 billion )


also Turkey lost $1 trillion and 40.000+ citizens to fight The US and The EU backed PKK Terrorism

also The US/NATO always did military coups in Turkey by 1960,1971,1980 ,1997 and last one 2016
( Turkey lost hundreds of billions of dollars and real patriotic Leaders who worked for Turkish People , not for American/European/Israeli interests )


so there will be no worse than ever .... better to develop nuclear weapon in a year and engage on Israel
then all problems will be solved and the US will beg Turkey not to attack Israel

even poor undeveloped N.Korea kick Americans because of nuclear power

 

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ERDOGAN is not American puppet and real muslim leader

"Real Muslim leader" who allows the slaughter of over 1 million Muslims and more over gives Putin 2 billion $ so he could slaughter more Muslims.

ERDOGAN is working for Turkish People , not for American/Israeli interests

Instead F-35 which would provide hi tec jobs to tens thousands of Turks he gives 2 billion of Turkish money to Putin.

ERDOGAN kicked American/Israeli backed traitor terrorists

Actually its the opposite with Erdogans help US backed Kurdish SDF managed to take over most of Syria's north.

Erdogans media wont tell u that.

 

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"Real Muslim leader" who allows slaughter of over 1 million Muslims and more over gives Putin 2 billion $ so he could slaughter more.

S.Arabia,Egypt,the Uae


on the other hand ERDOGAN saved over 3,5 millions muslim Syrians

Instead F-35 which will provide jobs to tens thousands of Turks he gives 2 billion of Turkish money to Putin.

PUTIN doesnt support PKK and FETO Terrorists to kill Turkish People and to destroy Turkey's territorial integrity

the US ,the EU and Israel support PKK and FETO Terrorists to kill Turkish People and to destroy Turkey's territorial integrity

keep crying , Turkey will get S400 to kick your dirty plan in Syria and in the Eastern Mediterranean ( even 100 Turkish officers begins for S400 training in Azerbaijan )

Actually its the opposite with Erdogans help US backed Kurdish SDF managed to take over most of Syria's north

since 2013 ERDOGAN is fighting against the US ,the EU and Israel backed traitors and terrorists in Turkey

-- Judical coup attempt by the US backed FETO terrorist organization to destroy ERDOGAN in 2013
-- FETO linked Pilots shot down Russian Plane to destroy relationship between Turkey and Russia in 2015
-- PKK's big terror rebellion in 22 Turkish cities in 2015-2016
-- Militaey coup attempt by the US backed FETO terrorist organization to destroy ERDOGAN in 2016

in finally ERDOGAN kicked all traitors and Turkish Army entered Syria to block American-Israeli plan


It was your dream



after Turkish military operations

 

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Nothing and no one is going to stop turkey from buying S400 if they are willing.

 

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S.Arabia,Egypt,the Uae

Those countries dont border Syria and dont have Bosporus (major route of aid to Assad). Erdogan coulld stop the slaughter any minute. But instead he gave Putin 2 billion $ so he could slaughter more.

on the other hand ERDOGAN saved over 3,5 millions muslim Syrians

He did not save anyone. Putin amd Khamenai slaughtered as much as they wished.

PUTIN doesnt support PKK and FETO Terrorists to kill Turkish People and to destroy Turkey's territorial integrity

LOL I remind u that Turkish helicopter was shot down by Russian Igla not Stinger and Turkish tanks were destroyed all by Russian ATGMs too.

keep crying , Turkey will get S400 to kick your dirty plan in Syria and in the Eastern Mediterranean ( even 100 Turkish officers begins for S400 training in Azerbaijan )

Its Muslims including Turks who are slaughtered by Russia not the Jews.

It was your dream

This is imaginary map made by some kid.
https://www.directupload.net

after Turkish military operations

Exactly US backed Kurdish SDF took most of north Syria with help of Erdogan. They would never took that without Erdogan. Actually with help of Erdogan they took even more lands than Kurdish kid was dreaming about.

You dont even understand what u are posting.

 

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Those countries dont border Syria and dont have Bosporus (major route of aid to Assad). Erdogan coulld stop the slaughter any minute. But instead he gave Putin 2 billion $ so he could slaughter more.

Russia has military capability to deploy military materials to Syria from Baltics by Ships



and S.Arabia,the Uae , the US ,the UK , France , Germany have started civil war in Syria , even they criticized ERDOGAN for good relationship with ASSAD

so its not Turkey's problem

and The US,Israel wants a conflict between Turkey and Russia ............. keep dreaming dream is free

therefore the US backed FETO shot down Russian Plane and killed Russian ambassador to Ankara

He did not save anyone. Putin amd Khamenai slaughtered as much as they wished.

there are over 3,5 million of Syrian refugees in Turkey .... ERDOGAN saved 3,5 million muslims

on the other hand S.Arabia,the Uae , the US ,the UK , France , Germany sold muslims in Syria and They have started to support communist atheist Pkk/Ypg terror organization to destroy Syria's territorial integrity for Israeli interests

LOL I remind u that Turkish helicopter was shot down by Russian Igla not Stinger and Turkish tanks were destroyed all by Russian ATGMs too.

I am saying again Turks are not stupid Arabs and Kurds
Turks knows everything , Turks have 2200 years state and military tradition ..... Your cheap propaganda wont work against the Turks ,,,

the US bought Russian Weapons from Balkan Countries and gave to Pkk/Ypg terrorists ......

and Turkish Army captured American weapons including AT-4 from Pkk terrorists in Turkey


the US gave over 29.000 trucks and 4.000 cargo planes of weapons to 70.000+ Pkk/Ypg terrorists to attack Turkey

Exactly US backed Kurdish SDF took most of north Syria with help of Erdogan. They would never took that without Erdogan. Actually with help of Erdogan they took even more lands than Kurdish kid was dreaming about.

You dont even understand what u are posting.

wtf SDF ? İts Pkk/Ypg terrorist organization

and ERDOGAN took Afrin from terrorist Kurds and blocked the US-Israeli terror corridor ( from N.Iraq to N.Syria to Mediterranean ) ... btw Turkish Army is also in N.Iraq

keep crying ...... sooner or later Turkish Armed Forces will clean Manbij , Ayn Al Arab , Tel Abyad , Rasulayn , etc from all Pkk/Ypg terrorists ..... that means bye bye zionist dream

 

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Russia has military capability to deploy military materials to Syria from Baltics by Ships

Its EXTREMELY costly. Russian ships are mostly old and not well suited for such a long trips. Plus Turkey had many other means to stop the slaughter, just shot down Assads barrel bombers.

and S.Arabia,the Uae , the US ,the UK , France , Germany have started civil war in Syria , even they criticized ERDOGAN for good relationship with ASSAD

Stop spreading Putins propaganda. Civil war was started by Assad who started shooting protesters.

so its not Turkey's problem

5 minutes ago u cried about Erdogan being a great Muslim leader protector of Muslims. Now u say its fine to slaughter Muslims right at your birder.

And also give 2 billion $ as prize for this slaughter.

there are over 3,5 million of Syrian refugees in Turkey .... ERDOGAN saved 3,5 million muslims

12 million Muslims became homeless and 1 million slaughtered because Erdogan did nothing to protect them.

And he also gave 2 billion $ so Putin cold slaughter and expel even more.

I am saying again Turks are not stupid Arabs and Kurds

I communicate with Arabs on daily basis and all are much smarter than u.

and Turkish Army captured American weapons including AT-4 from Pkk terrorists in Turkey

Just cheap RPG. And show me when it was used against Turkish tanks or helicopters like Russian arms. U wont.

wtf SDF ? İts Pkk/Ypg terrorist organization

Erdogan helped SDF to expand and capture most of the North Syria. Best Syrian lands are in hands of SDF thanks to Erdogan.

 

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without the US and the EU support PKK/YPG terrorist organization can not survive even 1 year

after 1991 the US and the UK created terror corridor in N.Iraq
and Pkk terrorists always attacked Turkey from Pkk terror camps in N.Iraq and Turkey lost tens of thousands of citizens and hundreds of billions of dollars

Seems you are singing the same tune many of your compatriots in the region often sing. According to you guys, you have no responsibility in any turmoil or bad deed that happens in your country and region. It’s always ‘others’ fault , you guys are always innocent and victims of Western powers(Zionists included). Lol I have heard that so many times to be honest. Nothing new there. So you saying the Kurdish issue is all due to the west and Turkey bares no responsibility whatsoever doesn’t surprise me. You are not alone though. Many people in the region also blame all their ills and issues on the West one way or another.

and what the hell the US , the UK and France are doing in Syria under the mask of fighting against ISIS ?

Yes, we have been at the forefront in the fight against ISIS . Just look at the number of air raids and sorties carried out by western powers against ISIS. Obviously we didn’t want to launch a massive ground assault since western powers are wary of getting involved in another land war/full scale invasion in another Middle Eastern country. Reason our engagements have been rather limited to air raids (or at most special forces ) and support of local ground forces(which in this case was the Kurds who could provide necessary manpower in doing so)

now the US-the UK-France soldiers are in Syria to create another terror corridor against Turkey
and the US gave over 29.000 trucks and 4.000 cargo planes of weapons to 70.000+ Pkk/Ypg terrorists to attack Turkey

Do you know that if we want to follow your logic, then Turkey will be regarded as the biggest sponsor of ISIS and other Terror groups in Syria ? That’s what many people once claimed (including your Iranian and Russian partners). You yourself can even go back to Syria civil wars threads on here, you will find out that many members here mentioned that Turkey was the biggest backer of ISIS and other terror groups in Syria( because Erdogan was/is against Assad) and a puppet of the West.
I’m just using your logic though, not that I believe Turkey was ISIS backer .

and yes Our leaders know more about our country’s situation and position and Turkey buys S-400 , many more weapons from Russia to protect national interests , territorial integrity and Turkish People from blood thursty terrorist supporter traitor NATO members the US , the UK , France , Germany , Italy and their terrorist friends PKK/YPG , FETO and their bandit friends Greece , Egypt and Israel

According to you Western powers are pose the biggest threat to Turkey while Russia is your new found partner/ally. Lol.
I asked you a simple question do you really believe that ? If so, why do you think Turkey hasn’t quit NATO? Since NATO Is the biggest threat to Turkey’s territorial integrity. Lol That doesn’t make sense.
It’s like China saying the U.S is the biggest threat against its territory and then still allying militarily with the US and getting its critical weapon technology and systems from the US without taking any measures to cut them off or dump them. That doesn’t sound like a country who really believes that country is a threat does it?

 

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Its EXTREMELY costly. Russian ships are mostly old and not well suited for such a long trips. Plus Turkey had many other means to stop the slaughter, just shot down Assads barrel bombers.

then Russia and Iran , even China attacks Turkey and the US-Israel will easly create terror corridor in Syria

Turks are not stupid ...

Stop spreading Putins propaganda. Civil war was started by Assad who started shooting protesters.

Civil war was started by S.Arabia,the Uae , the US ,the UK , France , Germany

even the Uae offered weapons to ASSAD starting shooting protesters
S.Arabia,the Uae , the US ,the UK , France , Germany have their own plan , and its not destroy ASSAD Regime , Its destroying Syria's territorial integrity for Israeli interests

5 minutes ago u cried about Erdogan being a great Muslim leader protector of Muslims. Now u say its fine to slaughter Muslims right at your birder.

And also give 2 billion $ as prize for this slaughter.

ERDOGAN saved 3,5 million muslim Syrians , only Muslim leader protector of Muslims

on the other hand Iran was allies with christian Russia to kill muslims
S.Arabia and the Uae sold muslims in Syria and were allies with christian-zionist the US-Israel to support communist atheist Pkk/Ypg terror organization for American/Israeli interests

cry more cry ... Turks and Russians are not stupid to fight each others for American/Israeli interests

and Turkey buys S400 to protect Turkish People from blood thursty terrorists and their masters the US and Israel

cry more cry

12 million Muslims became homeless and 1 million slaughtered because Erdogan did nothing to protect them.

And he also gave 2 billion $ so Putin cold slaughter and expel even more.

very funny a jew who is the biggest enemy to Islam and Muslims care about muslims in Syria


I am saying again ERDOGAN saved 3,5 million Syrians .....

and Your zionist dirty plan sucks ..... the US-Israel wanted to start sectarian war in Syria
but Turks are not stupid to fight Assad and Iran for American/Israeli interests

I communicate with Arabs on daily basis and all are much smarter than u.

yes we have seen smart Arabs who are killing each others in Iraq,Syria,Libya,Egypt,Lebanon,Yemen for American,Israeli,Persian interests

You Jews better keep communicate with your smart Arabs to use them as pawns against Iran and Turkey

Just cheap RPG. And show me when it was used against Turkish tanks or helicopters like Russian arms. U wont.

Show me evidance that Russian Government or Military gives weapons to Pkk/Ypg

so easy to buy Russian weapons from Balkan countries and to give Russian weapons to Pkk ,, the US did it

the US gave over 29.000 trucks and 4.000 cargo planes of weapons including Russian weapons to 70.000+ Pkk/Ypg terrorists to attack Turkey

Russian Government or Military dont give weapons to Pkk/Ypg
but American Government and PENTAGON give weapons to Pkk/Ypg

Erdogan helped SDF to expand and capture most of the North Syria. Best Syrian lands are in hands of SDF thanks to Erdogan

biji ERDOGAN ..... you stupid jew ,,,, even Terrorist Kurds and secular Kemalists can not believe your lies


ERDOGAN took Afrin from terrorist Kurds and blocked the US-Israeli terror corridor ( from N.Iraq to N.Syria to Mediterranean ) ... btw Turkish Army is also in N.Iraq



btw SDF = Terrorist PKK/YPG ,The US and Israel who invaded 30% of Syrian territory under the mask of fighting ISIS to destroy Syria's territorial integrity

 

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Oh the hidden joy of America's bitches!

 

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Seems you are singing the same tune many of your compatriots in the region often sing. According to you guys, you have no responsibility in any turmoil or bad deed that happens in your country and region. It’s always ‘others’ fault , you guys are always innocent and victims of Western powers(Zionists included). Lol I have heard that so many times to be honest. Nothing new there. So you saying the Kurdish issue is all due to the west and Turkey bares no responsibility whatsoever doesn’t surprise me. You are not alone though. Many people in the region also blame all their ills and issues on the West one way or another

dont say tales to me , not only Kurds but also Armenians and Arabs were provoked by the UK , France , etc to rebel against the Turks since 1896

You might be modern day of Lawrence of Arabia

Yes, we have been at the forefront in the fight against ISIS

CIA . MI6 and MOSSAD created ISIS to use a pawn for their dirty plan

Your terrorist countries destroyed Iraq with lies ( where are SADDAM's nuclear weapons you liar terrorists ? )

now You are destroying Syria under the mask of fighting against ISIS ( The US and friends are trying to destroy Syria's territorial integrity )

Do you know that if we want to follow your logic, then Turkey will be regarded as the biggest sponsor of ISIS and other Terror groups in Syria ? That’s what many people once claimed (including your Iranian and Russian partners). You yourself can even go back to Syria civil wars threads on here, you will find out that many members here mentioned that Turkey was the biggest backer of ISIS and other terror groups in Syria( because Erdogan was/is against Assad) and a puppet of the West.
I’m just using your logic though, not that I believe Turkey was ISIS backer .

Everybody can say lies but Nobody can show evidance about Turkey sponsor of ISIS and other Terror groups in Syria

but We Turks have millions of evidance about the US sponsor of Pkk/Ypg terror organization in Syria



in the last 6 days 8 Turkish soldiers were killed by the US,the UK,France backed Pkk/Ypg terrorists in Turkey and Syria

but Turkish Armed Forces killed over 15.000 ugly smelly Pkk/Ypg terrorists including British,American,German,French,Dutch,Canadian ,etc origin terrorists in Turkey,Iraq and Syria in the last 3 years

We never will allow you to create terror corridor in N.Syria ..


We Turks are fighting with NATO , not with ugly smelly terrorist PKK and FETO

NATO apologizes to Turkey for targeting Erdogan and Ataturk in training exercise
https://www.dw.com/en/nato-apologizes-to-turkey-for-targeting-erdogan-and-ataturk-in-training-exercise/a-41429119