are you joke or what ? do you think are Turks stupid ?
what about shitty ISIS with a few camel riders and Toyata pick-up ?
If you think that ISIL were a bunch of camel riders and pickup drivers then you were not paying sufficient attention:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallm...rigin-countries-of-isis-weaponry-infographic/
Core of ISIL was made up of former members of Al-Qaeda Network of varying nationalities and former members of Iraqi military (Ba'athists); these guys knew how to fight and manage things. They recruited many individuals from all over the world and prepared them to carry out suicide bombings in various countries including in Turkey. Being an asymmetric force, its agents could slip through the borders, blend among the locals, and execute suicide attacks across Turkey if need be.
the US-the UK and Israel created ISIS to use as a pawn for their dirty plan in the region
both PKK/YPG and ISIS rules by the US
and first ISIS invaded cities in Syria then PKK/YPG took cities under the mask of fighting ISIS
RESULT : now around 30% of Syrian territory is belong to the US and Israel and they wants to destroy Syria's territorial integrity
Assad regime destroyed Syria; others simply took advantage.
AQI (mixed nationalities) and Iraqi Ba'athists joined hands and created ISIS in 2013; NATO withdrew its forces from Iraq in 2011, so 'founding fathers' of ISIL had ample time to regroup and undo US-led reforms in Iraq, kill Shia in large numbers and even hurt Turkey for being a NATO member. Read following articles.
[1]
https://theintercept.com/2015/06/03/isis-forces-exbaathist-saddam-loyalists/
[2] https://m.spiegel.de/international/...cture-of-islamist-terror-group-a-1029274.html
[3] https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...f473416e759_story.html?utm_term=.4dfeecc97bcd
[4] https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...bd612aeac_graphic.html?utm_term=.da53f28fc0e1
The raw cruelty of Hussein’s Baathist regime, the disbandment of the Iraqi army after the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, the subsequent insurgency and the marginalization of Sunni Iraqis by the Shiite-dominated government all are intertwined with the Islamic State’s ascent, said Hassan Hassan, a Dubai-based analyst and co-author of the book “ISIS: Inside the Army of Terror.”
“A lot of people think of the Islamic State as a terrorist group, and it’s not useful,” Hassan said. “It is a terrorist group, but it is more than that. It is a homegrown Iraqi insurgency, and it is organic to Iraq.”
The de-Baathification law promulgated by L. Paul Bremer, Iraq’s American ruler in 2003, has long been identified as one of the contributors to the original insurgency. At a stroke, 400,000 members of the defeated Iraqi army were barred from government employment, denied pensions — and also allowed to keep their guns.
The U.S. military failed in the early years to recognize the role the disbanded Baathist officers would eventually come to play in the extremist group, eclipsing the foreign fighters whom American officials preferred to blame, said Col. Joel Rayburn, a senior fellow at the National Defense University who served as an adviser to top generals in Iraq and describes the links between Baathists and the Islamic State in his book, “Iraq After America.”
The U.S. military always knew that the former Baathist officers had joined other insurgent groups and were giving tactical support to the Al Qaeda in Iraq affiliate, the precursor to the Islamic State, he said. But American officials didn’t anticipate that they would become not only adjuncts to al-Qaeda, but core members of the jihadist group.
Take a look at the faces:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/i...oreign/Graphics/isisbaath-wv2.jpg?t=20170517a
You are absolutely sold to the whole Zionist Martian Reptilian Dinosaurian plot to play mischief with Turkey to notice real problems in your neighborhood.
the US never fought against ISIS .. even OBAMA said that there will be 30 years to fight ISIS
Did you climb out from a cave or something?
ISIL was a big threat to American interests in Iraq because it would have toppled Iraqi democratic setup and brought Ba'athists back to power. And American debaathification project in Iraq would have been pointless consequently.
US-led forces commenced military operations against ISIL in 2014 when ISIL took over took over the Mosul Dam in Iraq -
Operation Inherent Resolve in short.
[5] https://www.wilsoncenter.org/article/timeline-the-rise-spread-and-fall-the-islamic-state
[6] https://dod.defense.gov/OIR/
ISIL's political stronghold in Iraq = Mosul
ISIL's political stronghold in Syria = Raqqa
US-led forces brought an end to both strongholds of ISIL in 2017 - ample evidence on the web.
but in 2016 Turkish Army entered Syria and killed over 3.000 ISIS Terrorists and took Jarablus,Azez,Dabıq,Rai and Al Bab from ISIS
even ERDOGAN said that the US should work with NATO ally Turkey instead of Pkk/Ypg terrorists to fight ISIS in Raqqa but the US has its own dirty plan in Syria
not to fight ISIS but to create terror corridor in Syria against Turkey
Turkey-backed FSA did not had the manpower and reach to contend with ISIL across Syria and Iraq - not even close. And Turkey was too late in this game (2016).
From American standpoint, it was necessary to prepare Kurd factions and pit them against ISIL early on (since 2014), given the sheer scale of ISIL movement.
Not just Kurd, US was cooperating with post-Saddam Iraqi government and armed forces to defeat ISIL within Iraq, and established SDF in Syria for the same.
[7] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mosul_(2016–2017)
[8] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raqqa_campaign_(2016–2017)
so today the biggest threat to Turkey is the US,the EU ,Israel,S.Arabia and the Uae backed Pkk/Ypg terrorist organization who killed over 40.000 innocent people since 1985 to destroy Turkey's territorial integrity
So much of the world is out to get you? Got it.
Turkish problems are not limited to YPG only but its leadership is not as wise as it should be in current times.
IMHO, Turkey should fence its border with Iraq and Syria in full, to make sure that PKK is not able to get through. Pakistan is fencing its border with Afghanistan, and will do the same with Iran. So there's that.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan can discuss the matter of YPG with Donald Trump, most likely already have. However, tensions between US and Turkey over the matter of S-400 systems, are likely to influence Erdogan's dealings with Trump - ponder over this.
Is S-400 worth it?
