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NATO losing to Taliban: Zardari

It is northern alliance who is killing more US soldiers than pashtoons.
It is your dream that you can clean Afghanistan from pashtoons with the help of northern allince.

Ahmad had derailed this thread and i hope mods. will take notice.

First of all the Northern Alliance does not exist anymore! They have surrendered their arms to the gov of Afghanistan and their leaders are active politically and split into a few different political parties which does not have unity among themselves, that organization is completely dissolved today. Secondly tell me how the NA are killing american soldiers? Third, the NA had included all the 4 Major ethnic groups of Afghanistan, Pashtoons were part of NA. And as a pakistani, you should stop talking on behalf of Pasthoons of Afghanistan, nobody has given you this right.
 
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What become of the northern alliance army?
Ah... they converted to ANA and this expalins lot of things!
BTW.... if you say northern alliance had handed over wepons than you are not from the region.
All warlords are always armed and keep private militias.... all commanders of ANA are those who shot Pashtoons after locking them in containers.
 
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The guy asked you a straightforward question so give him a stragithfowrad answer!! Is it a YES or is it a NO? I am amazed to see what kind of paksiani you are? You are clearly doubting the rightfullness of your own army.

Ahmad first of all I have answered him what i feel about this issue.... I feel about this issue in the way I have written... Like you I don't want to jump straight to conclusion and answer in YES or NO.

Secondly you have no right to question my patriotism.. The Holy Prophet (SA) said that " loving ones country is a part of Religion". So I love my country and going against his saying will ruin my afterlife... But unlike you , I am a Muslim first and then I am a Pakistani .. Its what the Holy Prophet (SA) taught us...


Finally, as a Pakistani civilian I have the right to know the truth about this war because it has affected every Pakistani. Like others, I don't believe what Pakistani or Global media says because all news their are fabricated, changed and is then that news is presented that is in the greater interest of the US and its Israeli terrorist state ....

I don't want to believe blindly what media says.. this is it.. If you perceive it as I am questioning the rightfulness of my army then you can say that so...

( please bear in mind that I am not saying anything regarding the Pakistani army and its war with TTP in this whole Paragraph )....By the way army is made up of Humans. So they can be wrong. We have seen many times in our history that armies of country are not righteous and are wrong doers. . What about Israeli army of Today? are they not wrong doers? we find jews of Israel against their own army .... what would you say about North Korean army who is trying for war with south Korea ? are they right in that ? ....

I think You should read the history of Moin uddin Zanki on internet, who during the time of Crusades captured Syria, when the army and government of Syria pledged alliance with the crusaders. But the people of Syria was against this allegiance. Those civilians helped Zanki to overthrow the ruler of Syria....

So my point is that any army of this world can be wrong, because army is made by man and man can commit mistakes. And we should not just believe whatever is being told us through any mean..


Great Islamic Scholars of Islam in Pakistan, that Includes Dr Israr Ahmed ( may Allah Grant him Jannat ) think that the war between Pakistan army and TTP was due Misunderstanding and lack of communication, created by enemies (Israel and US). I can provide the link about it to anyone who wishes.

So , thats why I don't want jump into conclusions in the form of YES or NO.... that is why I pray that may the right one gets victorious, without being on the side of either of them..
 
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What become of the northern alliance army?
Ah... they converted to ANA and this expalins lot of things!
BTW.... if you say northern alliance had handed over wepons than you are not from the region.
All warlords are always armed and keep private militias.... all commanders of ANA are those who shot Pashtoons after locking them in containers.

First of all you need to educate yourself and secondly you must be respectful of my country's army the same way I respect army of your country. Northern Alliance doesnt not exist anymore, if you accpet it or not, i am not interested, if you can present any proof to reject my claim then i will be listening to you. Once the americans came to Afghanistan and the gov was established, the gov of Afghanistan with the help of the UN started a programme of dis armament which took all the heavey and small weaponry from all the Mujahideen groups including the NA that were part of mujahideen who fought against the soviets. Some of the commanders might have 5-10 bodyguards for their safety which is allowed by the gov and this includes all the mujahideen commanders not just the NA mujahideen, i am sure that the same thing is happening in your country too, top peopole having bodyguards. ANA is the national army and it is open to everybody who wants to join it, it is not compulsory nor favouritism, everybody can join it no matter who. Our defence minister have been a pashtoon who is not from Jihad time either for the last 9 years(with the exception of one DM who was also pashtoon). The taliban shot dead the fighters of their opponents and when their opponents caught the taliban, they did the same thing to the taliban and killed them, so i dont see what the difference is, the taliban killed the others and the others killed the taliban, nobody have any sympathy for the NA fighters being killed and nobody will have a sympathy for the Taliban fighters who were killed either in the containers or somewhere else, both parties chose to fight and the consequesces of fight is most likey death. Right now the taliban are the only and biggest warlords in Afghanistan.
 
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Your country is ireland stop pretending to be Afghan.

There are more Afghan in Pakistan than Afghanistan it self and they cry for their loved ones who are regularly shot in Afghanistan for just being pashtoons.

Can you point out any pashtoon general in ANA?

ANA is a proxy of indian army and quite often we heard them shooting at their pay masters an dliberators, which explains their objective.
 
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Your country is ireland stop pretending to be Afghan.

There are more Afghan in Pakistan than Afghanistan it self and they cry for their loved ones who are regularly shot in Afghanistan for just being pashtoons.

Can you point out any pashtoon general in ANA?

ANA is a proxy of indian army and quite often we heard them shooting at their pay masters an dliberators, which explains their objective.

You are not only selfish but Stupiid too. I hope you have heard the words of Rustam Shah Mohmand(former Pak ambasador to Afghanistan) about pashtoons of Paksitan.

Edit: dont bring the issues of ethnicity in the middle as you in pakistan too have these problems just like us. If you call yourself a man of sense then you should also highlit the suffering of non pashtoons in afghanistan as well. They have been suffering from injustice and indiscrimination for teh last 1 and half century. You also need to know that tens of thousands of civilians of non pasthoons were killed by the taliban, you seem to be ignoring that.
 
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Cannot talk any more to an uncivilized person.
All Afghanis in Pakistan are thousand times more civilised than you...
enjoy your ireland.
 
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Your country is ireland stop pretending to be Afghan.

There are more Afghan in Pakistan than Afghanistan it self and they cry for their loved ones who are regularly shot in Afghanistan for just being pashtoons.

Can you point out any pashtoon general in ANA?

ANA is a proxy of indian army and quite often we heard them shooting at their pay masters an dliberators, which explains their objective.

- Karzai is an Indian agent
- Zardari is an Indian Agent
- ANA is an Indian Proxy
- TTP is Indian agent
- Israel -India - US - UK have alliance against Pakistan
- MQM is India backed
- BLA is India backed
- Russia is in India's pocket




C'mon dude.. Stop jumping at shadows..
 
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Cannot talk any more to an uncivilized person.
All Afghanis in Pakistan are thousand times more civilised than you...
enjoy your ireland.

That was all you could say? and tell me which part of my comments were uncivilized? You seem to be very concernd about the pashtoons of Afghanistan, but you fail to even mention the suffering of non pashtoons which is many times bigger and this suffeing has been for more than a century. But the sad truth is you are not caring about pashtoons, you are here to score cheap political points. I am very true afghan who loves my country and i am worried about my people, no matter where i live i love my country. I have personally suffered alot and have grown up in the mess which afghanistan is in right now, and I know the bitter reality on the ground unlike some other keyboard politicians and warriors and hypocrates who talks on behalf of the others.
 
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- Karzai is an Indian agent
- Zardari is an Indian Agent
- ANA is an Indian Proxy
- TTP is Indian agent
- Israel -India - US - UK have alliance against Pakistan
- MQM is India backed
- BLA is India backed
- Russia is in India's pocket




C'mon dude.. Stop jumping at shadows..

and dont forget that he also claimed that indians bilologically modified youths of afghansitan to be suicide bombers.
 
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- Karzai is an Indian agent
- Zardari is an Indian Agent
- ANA is an Indian Proxy
- TTP is Indian agent
- Israel -India - US - UK have alliance against Pakistan
- MQM is India backed
- BLA is India backed
- Russia is in India's pocket
C'mon dude.. Stop jumping at shadows..

No Russian is not in your pocket, rest all are facts...... shall i post some?
 
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and dont forget that he also claimed that indians bilologically modified youths of afghansitan to be suicide bombers.

lol ya that was classic, i could not stop laughing for 10 days lol

---------- Post added at 09:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:44 PM ----------

No Russian is not in your pocket, rest all are facts...... shall i post some?

ya please enlighten us
 
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