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Nato copters violate airspace in Balochistan

well well well ..... pakistan is in a situation to enjoy the whole crap ..... but most of the drama depends on pakistan govt ..... and pakistan govt is dump ...... let see how long kiyani fetches this situation and how does he tackle it out ................
he has to take same brave action ...........and i pray for him
 
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but one thing is for sure ..... any adventure will make grave yard bigger for the nato and usa ......
 
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That crap (I agree that option 1 is crap) is what 90% of Pakistanis on this forum are posturing towards..

Holding talks doesnt mean squat.

There were a million and 1 talks with Iraq too..

The forum members in NO way are to be taken as official stand of Pakistan or US.

There is no War going to be between US-Pakistan

Talks in Iraq with whom ? US attacked Iraq just to destroy there was NO clear human group which was target unlike Afghanistan where Taliban Govt was the opposite

And either it will be talks to bring peace or US will leave just like Iraq in both the cases i dont see that crap happening
 
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i would say specifically for nato and us ....... because they are willing to do it ...... we aint,,infact we have advised them not to follow israil..........they won't get anything in the end ........
 
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US in favour of cross-border attacks to check Taliban flow from Pak

ANI

Melbourne, Oct 13 (ANI): US military officials are advocating cross-border attacks as part of new tactics to choke off the flow of Taliban fighters and bomb-making materials from Pakistan into key battlefields of south Afghanistan.

Two senior officers belonging to the team of General David Petraeus, the commander of NATO forces in Afghanistan, are scheduled to meet their Pakistani counterparts this week, a senior NATO official said.



Major-General Mike Flynn and Major-General William Mayville plan to share US intelligence about Taliban efforts to recruit fighters in refugee camps in Pakistan, and locations where the Taliban load ammonium nitrate to make bombs.

The officers will also present intelligence to their Pakistani counterparts about Taliban operations in Pakistan's Balochistan province, The Age reports.

The US has had faced problems this year in Kandahar and neighbouring Helmand province, where it has sent tens of thousands of additional troops.

The US offensives in the region have struggled to clear guerilla fighters, who easily disappear into the local population.


General Petraeus is facing a deadline from the White House to show progress in the war by next July, and officials said he was pushing the Pakistani military to confront the Taliban.

"We're going to take this fight to the edge. We're not going to back off," said one official.

Kandahar and parts of Helmand have remained violent in part because of the infiltration of fighters over the border.

The Taliban leadership fled across the border to the Balochistan capital, Quetta, after the US invasion of 2001, and some members are believed to be directing the insurgency from there. (ANI)

http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/184743
 
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let the party begins ....... they are willing to do adventure ......... they will be pissed off ................. INSHALLAH ....
 
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If the US attacks Pakistan has no chance what so ever. Do not tell me Taliban has won in Afghanistan, they do not control Kabul. All they do is stray attack here and there. They are more like goans not a military of country.

Here are the few things I can think off in case of war.
1) For a war to be won one needs weapon to fight.
2) One needs civil supplies like oil. etc
3) For 1 & 2 you need money.
4) For 1 either u produce locally or you have a seller.
5) For 2 you should have an open route to get oil.

US has control of most financial institues in world so you will struggle for money if they are your enemy.
I do not think anyone is going to sell you weapons while at war with USA, including China.
US can easily block oil supplies to Pakistan.

Now the other part.

If US will attack they will either send missiles or do airiel attack. They will not send Army or Tanks, as the objective here is not to capture but to destroy certain targets.

I do not think what Targets Pakistan has in response certainly not sending Army.

Now Pakistan can respond with Missiles or Nukes. (Their favorite weapons)
Missile needs GPS which is controlled by USA, if they stop GPS signal in Pakistan your missiles are good for nothing.

Without Missile Nukes lose one solid delivery platform.

Add to the story yourself. US if thinks of doing a limited war with Pakistan, it can easily do it. piece of cake.

Pakistan will always struggle for resources and the day US calls ceasefire they will have no other option but to accept it.
 
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It's quite obvious that many bhartis have a fantasy of US attacking Pakistan and its shown again and again when someone from US makes a threat for domestic consumption or when relationship is tense. Quite obviously though, it's a fantasy that will remain a fantasy.
 
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It's quite obvious that many bhartis have a fantasy of US attacking Pakistan and its shown again and again when someone from US makes a threat for domestic consumption or when relationship is tense. Quite obviously though, it's a fantasy that will remain a fantasy.

Actually it is called discussing on topic. When US was planning to attack IRAQ people discussed how they will do it right? Does that mean they were supporting war?
 
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Actually it is called discussing on topic. When US was planning to attack IRAQ people discussed how they will do it right? Does that mean they were supporting war?

but in case of indians they do support everything if it goes against pakistan .........

how about it if china kicks again indian's *** .................50% of your weapons are outta order ......... you cannt fight in night....
well then it comes to nukes(beside pakistan you are on top to favour nukes,for instance you were the first one to experiment)

then what will be the consequence.........you think you know it better ......result will not be different than 1962

infact it can be ........ because this time pakistan will not back off .... and russia will not help you ........ as russia is in SCO block with china ...... and russia won't dare to go against china
 
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but in case of indians they do support everything if it goes against pakistan .........

how about it if china kicks again indian's *** .................50% of your weapons are outta order ......... you cannt fight in night....
well then it comes to nukes(beside pakistan you are on top to favour nukes,for instance you were the first one to experiment)

then what will be the consequence.........you think you know it better ......result will not be different than 1962

infact it can be ........ because this time pakistan will not back off .... and russia will not help you ........ as russia is in SCO block with china ...... and russia won't dare to go against china

If that situation arise I will discuss on topic at that time. I am not understanding why a imaginary discussion cannot be taken as discussion on topic. I am just discussing what will happen kind off situation, where did I said they should attack you. Do not get emotional.

Additionally China India is different from Pakistan USA for following reason.

1) Gap between 2 countries is lesser than Pakistan and USA (Still Huge)
2) China has border with India and India can harm them too. (I agree they can harm us more).
3) China does not have a reason to attack.
4) China is not USA.
5) China does not have similar backing as USA, e.g. Euroupe and other Nato countries.
 
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The forum members in NO way are to be taken as official stand of Pakistan or US.

There is no War going to be between US-Pakistan

Talks in Iraq with whom ? US attacked Iraq just to destroy there was NO clear human group which was target unlike Afghanistan where Taliban Govt was the opposite

And either it will be talks to bring peace or US will leave just like Iraq in both the cases i dont see that crap happening

We agree on atleast one thing :)
 
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