NATO and Pakistan to conduct Joint Naval Exercise in Turkey: Mavi Balina-14

[Kompromat]

ok

Capiche?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

SSGN is not developed well enough. I think they need to have a biannual program like SSG has with Turkish SAT for joint training and officers/operator exchange.

Bro... SSGN has been around since the 60s!!!

 

[Kompromat]

Bro... SSGN has been around since the 60s!!!

I know. But they are not very well resourced.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I know. But they are not very well resourced.

They are perhaps better equipped than SSG... Due to their small size etc....(From the few pics we have seen)..

 

[Kompromat]

They are perhaps better equipped than SSG... Due to their small size etc....(From the few pics we have seen)..

I know. Personal gear wise SSGN is very well armed but when i talk about resources i am talking about much more than brand new soldier outfit. Conducting ops requires a great deal of associated resources as well i.e SATCOM, Spy Sats, assets which can extend your operational range i.e long range subs, helicopters and so on.

@Neptune - What kind of assets SAT has at its disposal?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I know. Personal gear wise SSGN is very well armed but when i talk about resources i am talking about much more than brand new soldier outfit. Conducting ops requires a great deal of associated resources as well i.e SATCOM, Spy Sats, assets which can extend your operational range i.e long range subs, helicopters and so on.

@Neptune - What kind of assets SAT has at its disposal?

longe range subs for SF? They are utilising everything at their disposal (all branches).....they are equipped with midget subs,aswell as helis and so on... sire... they go through hell.. apart from that they also spend 6 months at Cherat... @Rashid Mahmood

 

[Kompromat]

longe range subs for SF? They are utilising everything at their disposal (all branches).....they are equipped with midget subs,aswell as helis and so on... sire... they go through hell.. apart from that they also spend 6 months at Cherat... @Rashid Mahmood

I think those Midget subs are no longer in operational use but training only. @Rashid Mahmood can confirm it here. Secondly the SSGN doesn't have its own heli wing, it tags along with PN's sea kings.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I think those Midget subs are no longer in operational use but training only. @Rashid Mahmood can confirm it here. Secondly the SSGN doesn't have its own heli wing, it tags along with PN's sea kings.

Nor does SSG ... they are usually borrow em from Army aviation corps...

 

[Kompromat]

Nor does SSG ... they are usually borrow em from Army aviation corps...

Not in the case of SOTF.

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

I think those Midget subs are no longer in operational use but training only. @Rashid Mahmood can confirm it here. Secondly the SSGN doesn't have its own heli wing, it tags along with PN's sea kings.

SSG(N) has operational X-craft (midget subs).
They also use Sea King's and ATR's (paradrops).

 

[Hakan]

Turkey, Pakistan,USA, Britain + NATO to conduct Joint Naval Exercise (Mavi Balina-14)

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REGEX 2014


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Officers from many different regional countries came to Turkey to boost cooperation and teamwork.

Bölgesel Tatbikat-2014, bölgesel askerî iş birliğini artırmak ve karşılıklı çalışabilirlik yeteneklerini geliştirmek maksadıyla, 20-24 Ekim 2014 tarihleri arasında Harp Akademileri Komutanlığı ev sahipliğinde icra edilmiştir.
Genelkurmay Başkanlığı Resmi Kurumsal İnternet Sitesidir - Anasayfa - Turkish General Staff Official Web Site - Main Page

Attendants

Tatbikata, evsahibi ülke olarak Türkiye'den 60, 11 ortaklık ülkesinden 44 [Azerbaycan (1), Bosna-Hersek (4), Cezayir (2), Karadağ (8), Kazakistan (2), Makedonya (10), Moldova (2), Pakistan (4), Sırbistan (5), Ukrayna (4) ve Ürdün (2)], Napoli Müşterek Kuvvet Komutanlığından 5, İzmir Kara Komutanlığından 12 ve 3'üncü Kolordu Komutanlığından 9 olmak üzere toplam 130 personel katılmıştır.
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Search and Rescue exercise

1 S70 Black Hawk and 1 Cougar participated

TSK İnsani Yardım Tugayı Doğal Afet Arama Kurtarma Tabur Komutanlığı tarafından; 22 Ekim 2014 tarihinde, Tümgeneral Daniş KARABELEN Kışlasında (Gölbaşı), Kara Havacılık Komutanlığı (Güvercinlik/Ankara) tarafından tahsis edilen bir adet S-70 tipi ve bir adet Cougar tipi arama kurtarma helikopteri ile "Yaralı Kazazedeyi Tahliye ve Helikopterden Atma Toplama Eğitimi" icra edilmiştir.

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4 pakistani officers recently came to turkey to take part in REGEX 2014. Regex is meant to boost cooperation capabilities of regional countries.

 

[Neptune]

I know. Personal gear wise SSGN is very well armed but when i talk about resources i am talking about much more than brand new soldier outfit. Conducting ops requires a great deal of associated resources as well i.e SATCOM, Spy Sats, assets which can extend your operational range i.e long range subs, helicopters and so on.

@Neptune - What kind of assets SAT has at its disposal?

They were found in 1963 by US Navy UDT laterly known as SEALs. UDT/SEAL instructors from San Diego have arrived to İskenderun for the establishment and training of the Underwater Commando (SAK). The unit laterly changed their names as Su Altı Taarruz (SAT) translated as Underwater Strike Teams. They have undergone two modernisation programs since then. One at early 90s and the other one at mid 2013. As far as we know, they are supported with UAVs, EW systems, EMP, Seahawks, CN-235, RHIBs, MRTP-22SAT boat, SIGINT and C4ISR. Apart from that; they have a black budget just like other Turkish SOF/SF units. Gears and equipment are up to date. They hesitate to use SAT, that's all.I believe.

The sister of SAT; Su Altı Savunma (SAS) has been also founded by the EOD units of US Navy.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

They were found in 1963 by US Navy UDT laterly known as SEALs. UDT/SEAL instructors from San Diego have arrived to İskenderun for the establishment and training of the Underwater Commando (SAK). The unit laterly changed their names as Su Altı Taarruz (SAT) translated as Underwater Strike Teams. They have undergone two modernisation programs since then. One at early 90s and the other one at mid 2013. As far as we know, they are supported with UAVs, EW systems, EMP, Seahawks, CN-235, RHIBs, MRTP-22SAT boat, SIGINT and C4ISR. Apart from that; they have a black budget just like other Turkish SOF/SF units. Gears and equipment are up to date. They hesitate to use SAT, that's all.I believe.

The sister of SAT; Su Altı Savunma (SAS) has been also founded by the EOD units of US Navy.

During the post 1965 war analysis Pakistan Navy felt the need of establishing a Special force, which could be used for covert offensive operations against enemy shore based facilities and the units at sea or in harboursAs a consequence, training volunteers for frogman / special Ops formed a new offensive arm for Pakistan Navy in 1966. Shortly after raising, the capabilities of this elite group were multiplied through the acquisition of midgets, chariots and combat/ auxiliary diving equipment. The training of volunteers selected from all branches of the Navy for Special Service Group (Navy) was conducted on the lines of British Special Boat Squadron (SBS), British Special Air Services (SAS) and US Navy SEALS.


They have at their disposal.. Sea Kings,ATRs,Casas,XCrafts,UAVs,EMP,EW,SIGNIT,C4ISR systems,MTRPs (bought from Turkiye),RHIBs etc...


Im not aware of their training progs with Turkish SAT.. But they do train with British,Americans,Arabs,Chinese etc...


Here are a few pics from old Tv prog:

 

[Neptune]

During the post 1965 war analysis Pakistan Navy felt the need of establishing a Special force, which could be used for covert offensive operations against enemy shore based facilities and the units at sea or in harboursAs a consequence, training volunteers for frogman / special Ops formed a new offensive arm for Pakistan Navy in 1966. Shortly after raising, the capabilities of this elite group were multiplied through the acquisition of midgets, chariots and combat/ auxiliary diving equipment. The training of volunteers selected from all branches of the Navy for Special Service Group (Navy) was conducted on the lines of British Special Boat Squadron (SBS), British Special Air Services (SAS) and US Navy SEALS.


They have at their disposal.. Sea Kings,ATRs,Casas,XCrafts,UAVs,EMP,EW,SIGNIT,C4ISR systems,MTRPs (bought from Turkiye),RHIBs etc...


Im not aware of their training progs with Turkish SAT.. But they do train with British,Americans,Arabs,Chinese etc...


Here are a few pics from old Tv prog:
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The training program is parallel with USN SEALs as them being the founders of the SAT. For ex: in SAT you have BUD/S and Hell Week first which are the first things you'd learn if you're gonna become a SEAL. The only foreign relationship is with USN. Just recently the Naval Special Warfare Unit stationed in Europe of DEVGRU have came to Istanbul for exercises with SAT. There's noone else that SAT approves to exercise with. I don't know why. Here's the latest HRT exercise of SAT which we assume it happened in Gölbaşı where SSG have just visited to exercise with Army ÖKK.

@Sinan @T-123456 @Hakan @xxxKULxxx and others;

Guys for your notice as well this was the latest update from SAT.

@Horus I believe this may be a preparation for Mavi Balina 2014. Will Alamgir contain a team of SSGN? if so it's highly likely that they'll conduct VBSS with SAT.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

The training program is parallel with USN SEALs as them being the founders of the SAT. For ex: in SAT you have BUD/S and Hell Week first which are the first things you'd learn if you're gonna become a SEAL. The only foreign relationship is with USN. Just recently the Naval Special Warfare Unit stationed in Europe of DEVGRU have came to Istanbul for exercises with SAT. There's noone else that SAT approves to exercise with. I don't know why. Here's the latest HRT exercise of SAT which we assume it happened in Gölbaşı where SSG have just visited to exercise with Army ÖKK.

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@Sinan @T-123456 @Hakan @xxxKULxxx and others;

Guys for your notice as well this was the latest update from SAT.

@Horus I believe this may be a preparation for Mavi Balina 2014. Will Alamgir contain a team of SSGN? if so it's highly likely that they'll conduct VBSS with SAT.

The cavalry ex? those were either regulars or at max Northern Light Infantry troops...