Naswarville

[livingdead]

@hinduguy......meaning of our name is also very different..... meaning of Alpha1 name is "sword"

ah ok... no wonder he is like this..
your name sounds like you dropped leading 'mo'.

 

[Alpha1]

you did not go to a 'special' school.. did you,,

By special if you mean we paid the fee in dollars than yes!
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@Slav Defence @HRK @hinduguy that's me with my Uncle, he held a party when he got the medal

 

[Zarvan]

Hey guys can any one tell me in detail about the incident of 5 Indian soldier deaths I came from aitkaf and found about it so please want to know in detail @Zakii @Aeronaut @Leader @Oscar @Armstrong @Jazzbot and @RazPaK

 

[HRK]

Hey guys can any one tell me in detail about the incident of 5 Indian soldier deaths I came from aitkaf and found about it so please want to know in detail @Zakii @Aeronaut @Leader @Oscar @Armstrong @Jazzbot and @RazPaK

By Ross Colvin

NEW DELHI | Thu Aug 8, 2013 7:54pm IST

(Reuters) - India for the first time directly accused the Pakistan army of involvement in an ambush that killed five Indian soldiers, and hinted on Thursday at retaliation for possibly the worst such attack since the neighbours signed a ceasefire in 2003.

Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif sought later on Thursday to cool tensions between the nuclear-armed rivals, calling for the truce to be restored in the disputed territory of Kashmir and holding out the prospect of a meeting with PM Manmohan Singh next month.

Defence analysts said they did not expect the incident to trigger a major retaliation by India, and saw New Delhi's sharper rhetoric largely as an attempt to assuage critics at home who accuse the government of being too soft on Pakistan.

Six Indian soldiers on patrol near their base about 450 metres from the Line of Control (LoC), the de facto border dividing the Himalayan region, were ambushed early on Tuesday. Five were shot dead and one was wounded, army officials said.

"This incident will have consequences on our behaviour on the Line of Control and for our relations with Pakistan," Defence Minister A.K. Antony told parliament.

"It is now clear that specialist troops of Pakistan army were involved in this attack," he said, offering the government's strongest statement to date on the attack.

While tit-for-tat shelling and machinegun fire are common along the LoC, cross-border attacks by troops are rare.

Pakistan has strongly denied any involvement in the killing of the soldiers.

Antony's accusation was significant as, in his first comments on the incident, he had been careful not to directly implicate the Pakistani army, referring instead to militants accompanied by "persons dressed in Pakistan army uniforms".

Prime Minister Singh's government has been quietly working with Islamabad to relaunch stalled peace talks, possibly as early as this month.

Islamabad has also been pushing for a meeting between Singh and his new Pakistani counterpart, Nawaz Sharif, in New York in September, a proposal New Delhi has said it is considering.

Moving to ease strains, Sharif said it was "imperative" for both sides to take steps to ensure and restore the ceasefire and the Line of Control, and their commanders there should not allow the situation to escalate.

"It is incumbent upon the leadership of both sides not to allow the situation to drift and to take steps to improve the atmosphere by engaging constructively with a view to building trust and confidence," Sharif's office said in a statement.

It said Sharif was looking forward to meeting Singh on the sidelines of the U.N. General Assembly in New York to "build trust and consolidate this relationship".

Indian government officials said no decision had been taken on resuming the peace talks at a senior bureaucrat level or on the proposed meeting between the two prime ministers.

CRITICS SAY GOVT TOO SOFT

The main opposition Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) had accused the government of trying to play down the attack and of being too soft on Pakistan, a damaging accusation ahead of what is expected to be a closely fought election, due by next May.

"They wanted to preserve their relations with Pakistan but they ended up with egg on their faces," said Brahma Chellaney, professor of strategic studies at the Centre for Policy Research, a think-tank in New Delhi.

The BJP caused a ruckus in parliament this week, blocking efforts by the ruling party to discuss long-pending economic reforms or the government's signature initiative to hugely expand a vote-winning scheme to give cheap food to the poor.

Facing rising political heat and a paralysed parliament, the government indicated it could revise its statement after the chief of the army visited the area of the attack on Wednesday.

"We all know that nothing happens from (the) Pakistan side of the Pakistan Line of Control without support, assistance, facilitation and often, direct involvement of the Pakistan army," Antony said in his statement to parliament on Thursday.

Indian army officials have said the attack was carried out by Pakistan's Border Action Team. The unit includes members of Pakistan's commando Special Services Group and irregular forces including members of Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Pakistan-based militant group, the army officers said.

"Our restraint should not be taken for granted, nor should the capacity of armed forces and resolve of the government to uphold the sanctity of the Line of Control ever be doubted," Antony said.

C. Raja Mohan, head of strategic studes at the Observer Research Foundation, said there was more bark than bite in Antony's statement.

"Today's statement has assuaged the BJP. I don't think the prime minister will give up the opportunity to engage with Pakistan, but when the public mood sours it becomes more difficult," he said.

"I don't think that there will be a retaliation attack ... there's an interest on both sides to protect the ceasefire."

The neighbours have fought three wars since becoming independent from Britain in 1947, two of them over Kashmir.

Relations between the two neighbours have shown signs of improvement in the past year after souring in 2008 when Pakistan-based gunmen attacked Mumbai, killing 166 people.

India accuses Pakistan army of killing soldiers in ambush | Reuters

 

[KingMamba]

@RazPaK welcome back brother.

 

[Alpha1]

Awesome movie war of the worlds

 

[Tanja]

used to look like, lol. By sayin surveillance, you mean because of the Edward Snoweden issue right, how's finland 'D

Then you are handsome, for sure >
surveillance = Snowden, NSA systems, PRISM, many cases in the past A lot to read
Finland is a bit cold today, seems like summer ends already *YALKS . I am now in my mökki (like summer cottage which every household has one), enjoying sauna, picking berries in the forest and play cards with my brothers, peacefully
How is Turkey?

 

[Neptune]

Then you are handsome, for sure >
surveillance = Snowden, NSA systems, PRISM, many cases in the past A lot to read
Finland is a bit cold today, seems like summer ends already *YALKS . I am now in my mökki (like summer cottage which every household has one), enjoying sauna, picking berries in the forest and play cards with my brothers, peacefully
How is Turkey?

wow...whatta peaceful life! Thank you for your compliment btw.

Well, i'm currently at Atatürk International Airport in Istanbul. Counting hours for my plane so that i can go and visit my hometown, Nalchik, Russia!!!

 

[ZYXW]

@Dillinger.......haha do you ever...sleep?

 

[Dillinger]

@Dillinger.......haha do you ever...sleep?

Übermensch, don't need sleep.

Sup? Miss me, did you?

 

[ZYXW]

Übermensch, don't need sleep.

Sup? Miss me, did you?

How'd you know? Yes I was dying in your absence
what yyou doing?

 

[Dillinger]

How'd you know? Yes I was dying in your absence
what yyou doing?

Just got off the phone- making plans. You?

I know you did babe. Its cool, happens to the best of em'. Dilli baba's charm works mighty fine.
@S-DUCT I so wish that INS Vishal will have the island pushed out to the back- so that the weapons handling, loading and outfitting stations can be put in a centralized place below the flight deck- something the yanks are putting in with the Gerald R Ford carriers. No new groundbreaking technology, no new space-age gizmo, just a design element gleaned from 60 years of operating carriers. AND just like that they can operate at 150 sorties a day.

 

[ZYXW]

Just got off the phone- making plans. You?

I know you did babe. Its cool, happens to the best of em'. Dilli baba's charm works mighty fine.

Ooo plans for what???
Helped out at the hospital today and now just finished watching my show so thought I'd come on and express my feelings about the impact your charm has on me to you xD

 

[S-DUCT]

@Dillinger:
Yanks do 150 sorties a day.?Just amazing.Wow!
Bro do you have any info on AEW platform that IAC-2'll have.?

 

[livingdead]

wow...whatta peaceful life! Thank you for your compliment btw.

Well, i'm currently at Atatürk International Airport in Istanbul. Counting hours for my plane so that i can go and visit my hometown, Nalchik, Russia!!!

man ever since you discovered your roots, you talk like a russian thug..