Names of judges suggested by CJP rejected

[IceCold]

Black sheep of SC.

 

[muhammadhafeezmalik]

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Goon League plan to keep Patwari minded judges in majority thwarted


Seniority is no principle.


That's the plan @muhammadhafeezmalik

This principle was made by SC also, Justice Bandial elevated to SC on same principle. Now he is against this principle. Justice Athar Min Allah is not pro PMLN judge neither CJ SHC or CJ PHC.

 

[HAIDER]

Qualification is more important than seniority. Isa ruined his career after he failed to produce a money trail. He may be nice guy but now he is biased .
I followed his court hearing, him and his wife did massive mud slinging on other judges and PTI, but never produce a money trail in the court.

 

[Norwegian]

This principle was made by SC also

Seniority is no principle of merit. This mistake of SC in the past must be fixed now. If the senior most judge is corrupt or controversial, should he become judge of SC? Absolutely not!

 

[HAIDER]

Also, respected members should remember when Nawaz appointed 11 hand picked " Kashmiri" judges to Lahore High Court.

 

[Norwegian]

Qualification is more important than seniority. Isa ruined his career after he failed to produce a money trail. He may be nice guy but now he is biased .
I followed his court hearing, him and his wife did massive mud slinging on other judges and PTI, but never produce a money trail in the court.

Justice Faez Isa is a Patwari Haramkhor judge. He is personally against Imran Khan after he became prosecutor in a case against him while being judge of the same case. Bughaz Imrani of the highest order.

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Also, respected members should remember when Nawaz appointed 11 hand picked " Kashmiri" judges to Lahore High Court.

That was Halal merit since Mian Mafroor did it. @FOOLS_NIGHTMARE @muhammadhafeezmalik

 

[Jungibaaz]

Again. Seniority is no merit. Judicial council can come to an agreement about merit of appointing judges to SC, but calling seniority a principle of merit is absurd.

Since you’ve clearly appraised this on the basis of merit and your rigorous research, please tell me the answer to these few questions:

• Why the three most senior judges in Sindh have been passed up thrice. What violation of merit would happen by appointing them?
• Why the 4th, 6th and 7th nominees in your view are more deserving? Please detail the case on merit. I bet you don’t even know their names, but here you are defending it on the basis of merit.
• Why no senior most judge has been appointed in the last six appointments?
• Why did the CJP attempt to pass all five in the designated holiday period of the court, waiting to call a meeting with the puisne was abroad and AG absent?
• Why did he call this ahead of the retirement of Sajjad Ali Shah and on what principle is the usual process supplanted to make sure he is part of the process to select a would-be successor?
• Why are the SCBA and PBC objecting to these appointments? And please note they have not objected to discretionary appointment based on merit, the latest vote at the CJP rebuked the choices.

Pls answer me these questions or don’t bother with the usual waste of time responses.

 

[Norwegian]

• Why the three most senior judges in Sindh have been passed up thrice. What violation of merit would happen by appointing them?
• Why the 4th, 6th and 7th nominees in your view are more deserving? Please detail the case on merit. I bet you don’t even know their names, but here you are defending it on the basis of merit.
• Why no senior most judge has been appointed in the last six appointments?

Senior most military officer in army has never been appointed as army chief. Does this make the senior most also the most competent for the post? Likewise, being senior most judge is no principle of merit. They can be considered with other junior judges but they should not be guaranteed a seat in Supreme Court just because they are senior most.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Senior most military officer in army has never been appointed as army chief. Does this make the senior most also the most competent for the post? Likewise, being senior most judge is no principle of merit. They can be considered with other junior judges but they should not be guaranteed a seat in Supreme Court just because they are senior most.

Answer the questions.

 

[Norwegian]

Answer the questions.

I have already answered. Justice Faez Isa and his like minded people in JCP (imported govt's lawyers, bar councils etc) all wish to impose this "principle of seniority" without taking into account actual merit of the judges.
As I said senior most judges can be considered to be elevated as SC judge, but they should not be given any priority in elevation out of merit. This is the sole reason why justice Faez Isa and his like minded people are rejecting junior judges from being elevated to SC in Judicial Commission of Pakistan, just because they don't fulfill this senseless "principle of seniority"

 

[Jungibaaz]

I have already answered. Justice Faez Isa and his like minded people in JCP (imported govt's lawyers, bar councils etc) all wish to impose this "principle of seniority" without taking into account actual merit of the judges.
As I said senior most judges can be considered to be elevated as SC judge, but they should not be given any priority in elevation out of merit. This is why justice Faez Isa and his like minded people are rejecting junior judges from being elevated to SC in Judicial Commission of Pakistan
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You did not. I’ll state them again for you:

• Why the three most senior judges in Sindh have been passed up thrice. What violation of merit would happen by appointing them?
• Why the 4th, 6th and 7th nominees in your view are more deserving? Please detail the case on merit. I bet you don’t even know their names, but here you are defending it on the basis of merit.
• Why no senior most judge has been appointed in the last six appointments?

To make it easier for you I’m focussing your own arguments here, let’s forget the logistics of what the CJP tried to do.

And please for the last time. Answer the questions exactly, don’t waste time.

 

[Norwegian]

• Why the three most senior judges in Sindh have been passed up thrice. What violation of merit would happen by appointing them?
• Why the 4th, 6th and 7th nominees in your view are more deserving? Please detail the case on merit. I bet you don’t even know their names, but here you are defending it on the basis of merit.
• Why no senior most judge has been appointed in the last six appointments?

As I said I have no problem with appointment of senior most judges on merit. Why should they not become SC of Pakistan? What I have issue is with this bogus reasoning given by justice Faez Isa and his like minded people in JCP that junior judges cannot be elevated to SC only because they do not adhere to "principle of seniority".

Similarly CJ of Pakistan must explain why senior most judges are not elevated in last six appointments? Appointments must be based on merit regardless of where judges are in seniority list as seniority is no principle of merit

 

[Jungibaaz]

As I said I have no problem with appointment of senior most judges on merit. Why should they not become SC of Pakistan? What I have issue is with this bogus reasoning given by justice Faez Isa and his like minded people in JCP that junior judges cannot be elevated to SC only because they do not adhere to "principle of seniority".
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Similarly CJ of Pakistan must explain why senior most judges are not elevated in last six appointments? Appointments must be based on merit regardless of where judges are in seniority list as seniority is no principle of merit

Merit is a key consideration, but so is seniority and so is representation. There’s a case to be made the seniority is not important, but that’s not the discussion here. Pakistan’s apex court also needs to show judges from each of the provinces, and nobody’s saying that seniority is the ONLY principle, they are reacting to the fact that senior judges have been passed up for appointments multiple times in a row because the CJP wants to pack the court.

Please explain to me the case by merit of passing up the three senior most judges. What did they do incorrectly, each of them? Also why Sindh has only seen the elevation of junior judges four times now. Please name the exact judges and tell me case by case what the meritorious considerations were.

Much obliged, thanks.

 

[Norwegian]

Merit is a consideration, but so is seniority and so is representation. Pakistan’s apex court needs to show judges from each of the provinces, and nobody’s saying that seniority is the ONLY principle, they are reacting to the fact that senior judges have been passed up for appointments multiple times in a row because the CJP wants to pack the court.

Then we have nothing to disagree. Justice Faez Isa and other members of JCP are absolutely right in their reservations

 

[Norwegian]

This is fake news by usual Noon League Mafia. CJ of Pakistan has today released transcript of the meeting where Justice Faez Isa and his like minded people have been proven to be liars

https://twitter.com/x/status/1553039209400877059

https://twitter.com/x/status/1553045766075301889

https://twitter.com/x/status/1553036769762885638

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Please lock thread for spreading fake news against CJ of Pakistan
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