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ISLAMABAD: The National Assembly was a divided house on Tuesday when a constitution amendment bill seeking creation of South Punjab and Bahawalpur provinces was introduced.

A heated debate took place soon after the bill was introduced by Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz lawmaker Rana Sanaullah with some legislators not agreeing with the idea of two provinces, whereas others came out in full support of the bill.

After Law Minister Barrister Farogh Nasim said the government had no objection to the bill, it was referred to the committee concerned by Deputy Speaker Qasim Khan Suri, who was presiding over the sitting in the absence of Speaker Asad Qaiser on a private members’ day.

Bill seeking amendments to Constitution for creation of Bahawalpur, South Punjab provinces generates heated debate among lawmakers

Tabling the bill, Mr Sanaullah said the bill would help in ending a sense of deprivation prevailing among the people of South Punjab. He said the bill was being introduced in line with the resolution that had already been passed by the Punjab Assembly.

The firebrand PML-N leader from Faisalabad hit out at the ruling Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) for, what he called, using the issue of new South Punjab province for election purposes. He said they heard a lot about the creation of a new province and saw making of an alliance on the issue, but later it proved to be just an election stunt.

Parliamentary leader of the ruling party and lawmaker from Multan Malik Amir Dogar said the PTI in principle supported the bill, but believed that only South Punjab province should be created. He said the PTI had promised to the people of South Punjab that it would work for the creation of the new province. As a first step, he said, the PTI government had decided to set up a civil secretariat for the new province.

He was of the opinion that the people of South Punjab had been deprived of their due rights during the previous governments under the PML-N that had done nothing for the creation of the new province.

Interestingly, the PTI’s parliamentary leader faced opposition not only from his coalition partners, but also from within his party.

Responding to Mr Dogar’s speech, federal Minister for Housing and PML-Q MNA Tariq Bashir Cheema declared that the people of Bahawalpur did not want to live with the people of the proposed South Punjab province.

“When we do not want to live with you, why do you want to forcibly keep us with you?” wondered Mr Cheema, who had been elected MNA from Bahawalpur.

“We don’t want to go under Takht-i-Multan (the throne of Multan) after coming out of Takht-i-Lahore,” the minister remarked.

He said the people of Bahwalpur had rendered great sacrifices and, therefore, their province should be restored.

Mr Cheema said two members of the National Assembly from Bahawalpur had not signed the Constitution of 1973 in protest when they found no mention of Bahawalpur province in it.

Opposing his party’s parliamentary leader, PTI MNA Farooq Azam Malik also spoke in support of Bahawalpur province. He recalled how the Nawab of Bahawalpur had announced joining Pakistan in 1947 when the Raja of Kashmir had announced succession with India at the same time. He said because of just one wrong action of an individual, they had been still fighting for Kashmir.

Mr Malik said he would continue to demand Bahawalpur province till the time he was alive. He finished his speech with the slogan Bahawalpur Sooba Zindabad (Long Live Bahawalpur Province).

The bill, which was moved by Mr Sanaullah, had been submitted by him and other PML-N leaders in January. At the time of submitting the bill, the PML-N leaders stated that they were moving the bill in line with their party’s manifesto and in the light of the already passed resolution by the Punjab Assembly in May 2012.

According to the bill, the new Bahawalpur province will comprise the current administrative Bahawalpur division whereas the south Punjab province will comprise current divisions of Dera Ghazi Khan and Multan.

The bill seeks amendment to Article 1 of the Constitution, suggesting to add the names of “Janubi (south) Punjab” and “Bahawalpur” provinces to the existing Balochistan, Punjab, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) and Sindh.

The bill also seeks amendment to Article 51 of the Constitution proposing that after the creation of both these provinces, Bahawalpur province would have 15 general and three reserved seats for women in the National Assembly. The provincial assembly of Bahawalpur province will have a total of 39 seats. Of them, 31 would be general seats, seven reserved for women and one for religious minorities, according to the draft of the bill.

Similarly, the bill proposes that south Punjab will be represented in the National Assembly by 38 members whereas the provincial assembly of this province will comprise 80 members with 64 general seats, 14 seats reserved for women and two seats reserved for religious minorities.

The bill says that members elected from the province of Punjab prior to the creation of the two new provinces shall complete their respective terms of office. It proposes that the members of the National Assembly from the erstwhile Federally Administered Tribal Areas, elected in the general elections in 2018, and women elected on reserved seats from Punjab to the National Assembly shall continue till dissolution of the present National Assembly.

The bill also seeks amendment to Article 154 of the Constitution so that a fresh National Commission for Provinces be established to decide the boundaries and other important matters related to the provinces.

The bill has proposed an amendment to Article 175A of the Constitution to provide for principal seats for the Supreme Court and high courts for these provinces. The high court of Bahawalpur shall have its principal seat at Bahawalpur, and the high court of South Punjab shall have its principal seat at Multan, says the draft of the bill.

The National Assembly also witnessed introduction of eight other private members’ bills.

The House, however, rejected a bill seeking right of appeal in suo motu cases before the apex court through 80-71 vote when it was opposed by the government.
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Published in Dawn, April 24th, 2019
 
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Time bury this #CriminalParliment 100 feet under. Forever!

We need more, much more provinces... only way to free ourselves from blackmailers and looting moneylaunderers.

A new province based on each Division.. with directly elected CEO.
 
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Punjab should be split into 5 provinces.
Pothohar, North Punjab, Central Punjab, South Punjab and Bahawalpur.

Time bury this #CriminalParliment 100 feet under. Forever!

We need more, much more provinces... only way to free ourselves from blackmailers and looting moneylaunderers.

A new province based on each Division.. with directly elected CEO.

Division boundaries need to be redrawn based on current population.

We should abolish provincial assemblies altogether, they are unnecessary burden and hurdle in progress.

New pseudo presidential system.
 
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Punjab should be split into 5 provinces.
Pothohar, North Punjab, Central Punjab, South Punjab and Bahawalpur.



Division boundaries need to be redrawn based on current population.



New pseudo presidential system.



My dear Pak,

Paks are still living under the British colonial divisions... that is why we are still caught in this chaos.... these provinces were drawn by colonist masters... for control and superamcy.

Without changing the administrative nature of the State we shall remain so at the mercy of coconut bureaucracy @Mentee

Development is directly related to better adiminstrative division... we need to bring in true democracy. Bottom up!

But before that we need to bury #CriminalParliment and #Dimmocracy deep and forever.

IK needs to be the executioner and bury this colonial system of #CriminalEnterprise.

#GoCriminalParlimentGo

Mangus
 
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Atleast 5 provinces out of Punjab, 3 out of Sindh and KPK and 2 out of Balochistan needs to be made.

Then go for Presidential model and remove these provincial assemblies altogether which are nothing more than waste of time and money. Presidential system with governors ruling in provinces with a very strong and independent local body system in place will be the best solution.
 
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Hang those fuckers and divide them into equal halves who are obstructing this bill.

Yeh lahori saari Power khud rkhna chhaty hain bhavaul pur b bnao or siraiki.

I know why many govt members are opposing the creation of bhavalpur sooba. It gonna further down size the level of power which they want to exercise if only siraiki is constituted

My dear Pak,

Paks are still living under the British colonial divisions... that is why we are still caught in this chaos.... these provinces were drawn by colonist masters... for control and superamcy.

Without changing the administrative nature of the State we shall remain so at the mercy of coconut bureaucracy @Mentee

Development is directly related to better adiminstrative division... we need to bring in true democracy. Bottom up!

But before that we need to bury #CriminalParliment and #Dimmocracy deep and forever.

IK needs to be the executioner and bury this colonial system of #CriminalEnterprise.

#GoCriminalParlimentGo

Mangus

Without changing the administrative nature of the State we shall remain so at the mercy of coconut bureaucracy @Mentee

No sir If yiu ask me its a good omen. The bureaucracy is complicit to it. in the preset set up if two more provinces are made it will radically decentralize their power as well which would not be the case if only one is made and will further pave the way for creating more in the central punjab. Lahoris can have the gor and general secretariat to their selves
 
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All cities should be declared special governance zones so that they can act independent of the provinces

Best will be

Tier - 1: Federal (Uniform Legislation for all country, Foreign Affairs, Defense, Macro Management, No development funds for MNAs)
Tier - 2: Provinces (Governor as ceremonial head with no power except if governor rule is required in exceptional circumstances, just to satisfy ego of provincial minded people)
Tier - 3: Division (Mayor/Chief etc. elected by people directly, Role - Division level Administration & Development)
Tier - 4: Local bodies (Role - City / Town / Village level Administration & Development)

Funds should flow from Federal --> Division --> Local bodies.

New pseudo presidential system.

Doesn't matter what's modal is at federal level. Whatever it is, governance modal should be

Federal --> Province (Governor only for ceremonial purpose) --> Division --> Local Body
 
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Hang those fuckers and divide them in equal halves who are obstructing this bill.

Yeh lahori saari Power khud rkhna chhaty hain bhavaul pur b bnao or siraiki.

I know why many govt members are opposing the creation of bhavalpur sooba. It gonna further down size the level of power which they want to exercise if only siraiki is constituted





No sir If yiu ask me its a good omen. The bureaucracy is complicit to it. in the preset set up if two more provinces are made it will radically decentralize their power as well which would not be the case if only one is made and will further pave the way for creating more in the central punjab. Lahoris can have their gor and general secretariat to their selves



O maray naujawan bahi,

These parasites want bigger provinces because of the budget allocations... 18th amendment is licence to loot.

We don't need bureaucracy, these glorified clerks need to be put in their place.

What is required an open source Enterprise Architecture based on BlockChain to run the business rules with AI assissted Performance Management System. 5 years contract for all clerks except for FO and National Security Agencies/Armed Forces. Also for police.

Bureaucracy has been the cancer, eating out the state from within...with their fake wives and childeren.

I say #IKBuryTheSystem

@Reddington we need to turn Gawadar as separate province... cann't become another Karachi!

@MastanKhan Qibla, I was not always in accord with your harsh views...but somehow I cann't take this crap anymore. We must bury this #CriminalSystem for good. A new start for all aspects of the State.

We must preserve the Pak State. Why cann't Paks see that the State has reached the edge of Abyss?

#BuryCriminalSystemNow


Mangus
 
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O maray naujawan bahi,

These parasites want bigger provinces because of the budget allocations... 18th amendment is licence to loot.

We don't need bureaucracy, these glorified clerks need to be put in their place.

What is required an open source Enterprise Architecture based on BlockChain to run the business rules with AI assissted Performance Management System. 5 years contract for all clerks except for FO and National Security Agencies/Armed Forces. Also for police.

Bureaucracy has been the cancer, eating out the state from within...with their fake wives and childeren.

I say #IKBuryTheSystem

@Reddington we need to turn Gawadar as separate province... cann't become another Karachi!

@MastanKhan Qibla, I was not always in accord with your harsh views...but somehow I cann't take this crap anymore. We must bury this #CriminalSystem for good. A new start for all aspects of the State.

We must preserve the Pak State. Why cann't Paks see that the State has reached the edge of Abyss?

#BuryCriminalSystemNow


Mangus

Sir as of now there are no signs visible of a change so what should we do? Extract everything and anything which we can .
Our main priority is decentralization of admin and financial power
 
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Sir as of now there are no signs visible of a change so what should we do? Extract everything and anything which we can .
Our main priority is decentralization of admin and financial power




Mentee, the Truth is IK cann't deliver anything in the current system. The UA episode was a clear demonstration of coocnut clerks from FinMin and FBR doing everything to fail the gov through sabotage.

#IAmPakistan and I am looking at Pak State to act. The State has to redeem itself now.

Unless we change the political/governance architecture we shall remain occupied by these parasites.

A total clean up/overhaul is needed. Some harsh punishments need to be meeted out to these criminals. This LaWhoring of Justice needs to end. Where is Supreme Judicial Council??????

It really depends on IK now.

If he remains zidi then this tamasha will drag on a bit longer...

But if he presses the Kill Switch after China visit then State will be forced to Act against #CriminalEnterprise... simply because it is do or die time for the State.

At local level, young people like yourself, must engage in constructive dialouge and solve your problems yourself.

Next 2-3 years are going to be very messy. So, remain constructive and #PakPositive.

Remember for all of us, even the ones like myself, Pak is the Only Option. It is Our Land. Our Home. Our Civilisation.

#GoCriminalParlimentGo is only slogan that needs to be raised.

If the establishment gives NRO to Nooraz then forever they will remain accomplice to the Crimes Against Humanity.

I am sorry for harshness but this tamasha is causing us more harm than good. So gloves need to come off now... even from a useless person as myself.

#GoCriminalParlimentGo


Mangus
 
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