Myth of illegal BD immigrants and persecution of India's bengali muslims
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Now, they say all of those Muslim East Indians are Bangladeshis! How stupid and close minded fools they are! 
Shut upNow, they say all of those Muslim East Indians are Bangladeshis! How stupid and close minded fools they are!
@halupridol Hi IMO Article is bit exaggerated and biased in favour of muslims . The OP is trying to mix different historical events to present a favorable opinion for the illegal muslim population in modern Assam. I think a distinction must to be made between assamese muslim and bengoli muslim and also between Indian bengoli muslim and BDeshi muslims.
a.Muslim rulers never held any land east of guwahati which was historically a frontier post for various Indian rulers
b.Even the land west of guwahati was held only briefly by muslims and most of the time was under the control of hindu Koch kingdom. During such brief period, some natives did convert to islamic faith, but their linguistic heritage was preserved , that is they did not suddenly started speaking bangla. Their descendands still speak one of the dialect of assamese not Bangla and are considered as assamese not BDeshis
c.Ahoms are credited as founder of Assam , they united all the warring tribes the kacahris(bodo, dimasa, sonawals,thengals) , various naga tribes ,muttocks and even the northern tribes such as mishing etc and presented us the tribes and other natives(including brahmins and traders from north India) the modern assamese identity. Their capital was Sivsagar in eastern assam.
d. Ahoms repelled all the muslim invasion into their territory .Later they also defeated the muslims and after the fall of eastern Koch kingdom (Koch hajo) they annexed their territory and remain so even till today.(boundary between WB and Assam marks the boundary between west (cooch behar) and east koch kingdom
Koch dynasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
e. The original inhabitants of Goalpara speak goalpariya dialect of assamese not Benagoli
including the assamese muslims of Goalpara. Check out the famous "original inhabitant" of Goalpara
Pratima Barua Pandey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
assamese through and through....
f . The first wave of Bangladeshi was brought by british to grow food to support british troops during ww2. This is single major cause of presence of bengoli muslim in assam. Following the end of war they never returned , infact their population continued to climb to dominate the entire dhubri district of Assam and also the nearby goalpara.And this is the only reason why bengoli speaking population are found in western assam not because of some phony Muslim king rule..
g. IMO the AASU leaders were tricked by GOI to agree on 1971 as cutoff year which is not fair because that legitimized the citizenship claim of many million muslim bengolis who were brought here by the british and subsequent migrations. it has completely changed the demography of westrn Assam. Was it of any intrest to ethnic assamese people ? Clearly the politicians in charge of this affairs had some other agenda
i . IMDT was a stupid act . why one act for whole of nation (foreigners act) and another for assam . The Students leaders were again tricked by the GOI to agree .. and what stupid sentence is this???
"Under the foreigners act the onus of proving someone’s Indian citizenship is on the accused & not on the authorities which is an impossible burden to discharge for most people in the country, who had no birth certificates and no land holdings"
Such comfort for the BDeshis ??wow
k Nilim Dutta??http://www.firstpost.com/india/top-columnist-top-fraud-the-curious-case-of-nilim-dutta-612460.html
a.Muslim rulers never held any land east of guwahati which was historically a frontier post for various Indian rulers
b.Even the land west of guwahati was held only briefly by muslims and most of the time was under the control of hindu Koch kingdom. During such brief period, some natives did convert to islamic faith, but their linguistic heritage was preserved , that is they did not suddenly started speaking bangla. Their descendands still speak one of the dialect of assamese not Bangla and are considered as assamese not BDeshis
c.Ahoms are credited as founder of Assam , they united all the warring tribes the kacahris(bodo, dimasa, sonawals,thengals) , various naga tribes ,muttocks and even the northern tribes such as mishing etc and presented us the tribes and other natives(including brahmins and traders from north India) the modern assamese identity. Their capital was Sivsagar in eastern assam.
d. Ahoms repelled all the muslim invasion into their territory .Later they also defeated the muslims and after the fall of eastern Koch kingdom (Koch hajo) they annexed their territory and remain so even till today.(boundary between WB and Assam marks the boundary between west (cooch behar) and east koch kingdom
Koch dynasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
e. The original inhabitants of Goalpara speak goalpariya dialect of assamese not Benagoli
including the assamese muslims of Goalpara. Check out the famous "original inhabitant" of Goalpara
Pratima Barua Pandey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
assamese through and through....
f . The first wave of Bangladeshi was brought by british to grow food to support british troops during ww2. This is single major cause of presence of bengoli muslim in assam. Following the end of war they never returned , infact their population continued to climb to dominate the entire dhubri district of Assam and also the nearby goalpara.And this is the only reason why bengoli speaking population are found in western assam not because of some phony Muslim king rule..
g. IMO the AASU leaders were tricked by GOI to agree on 1971 as cutoff year which is not fair because that legitimized the citizenship claim of many million muslim bengolis who were brought here by the british and subsequent migrations. it has completely changed the demography of westrn Assam. Was it of any intrest to ethnic assamese people ? Clearly the politicians in charge of this affairs had some other agenda
i . IMDT was a stupid act . why one act for whole of nation (foreigners act) and another for assam . The Students leaders were again tricked by the GOI to agree .. and what stupid sentence is this???
"Under the foreigners act the onus of proving someone’s Indian citizenship is on the accused & not on the authorities which is an impossible burden to discharge for most people in the country, who had no birth certificates and no land holdings"
Such comfort for the BDeshis ??wow
k Nilim Dutta??
http://www.firstpost.com/india/top-columnist-top-fraud-the-curious-case-of-nilim-dutta-612460.html
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There are many 'legal' Bangladeshis living 'illegally in India. No body can deny it. Its fact. The number is disputed.
If u r referring to the most recent case of terrorist BSF killings BDs well it happened 200 yards inside BD border. Most killings occur inside BD border either because drunk drug addict BSF suddenly becomes trigger happy or some cattle smugglers tries to aviod giving them the daily bribe for sumggling cattles out of India. I don't know with what face shameless Indian even begin to keep on spouting such horrendous non-sense of "illegal" migrants coming up with redicoulsly fictious numbers. It seems to be a country of shameless bigots persecuting its helpless minoroties.
@Luffy 500 : good work.
Anyway, India cannot deport a single Muslim from India if BD does not allow them in. Even Hasina would not be stupid enough to accept the millions of Muslims that India wishes to send to BD.
Let the Indians whine and bitch and just laugh at these idiots
I m not worried abt that. Modi won't be able to deport any while his fan boys here will keeping repeating the same rant . He duped the gullible braindead hindtuva pop. of India with election rethoric. But i worry abt the lives of these muslims. BJP may forment more deadly riots by bodo militants (riots and killings by bodo thugs is normal in Assam even though the "secular" Kangress is in power there) to please the hindtuva crowd and after the blood bath he may try to appear as a benevolant PM trying to protect the internally displaced lacs of muslims.In the long run GOI may give work permits to this muslims to work in their own country thereby being able to propagate their "secular" credentials. Or he may decide to do more communal politics by keeping the issue alive. Kangress on the other hand will do nothing as all this massacre happened during their rein. They even allowed the supreme court to keep a facist colonial law in place to facilitate persecution of these muslims. It too is a Hindtuva aligned party, otherwise it could not have ruled a communal pro-hindtuva nation for 60 years.
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Illegal Bangladeshi immigrants spend a grand to enter India, government spends Rs 4,000 to deport them
Saturday, 31 May 2014 - 7:10am IST | Agency: DNA
While it costs just Rs1,000 for an illegal Bangladeshi immigrant to enter India by paying touts, the state government has to spend four times more to deport him/her back. From 2011 to May this year, the state government has spent Rs50 lakh to deport 1,230 illegal Bangladeshi immigrants.
Police sources said every time an illegal Bangladeshi immigrant is arrested, as per government norms, he is paid various daily allowances for food, tea and stationary. These expenses, say the sources, are apart from the expenses borne to deport the immigrant.
"After an immigrant comes out of jail, we take his/her custody, as a restriction order is issued against him/her, and initiate the deportation process. We communicate with the border security forces and tell them the number of immigrants to be deported back to Bangladesh. The border security forces then give us a date on which the immigrants will be deported," said an officer with the special branch of city police.
A majority of expenses incurred in deporting are while sending the immigrant/s with an escort team. "For each immigrant, there have to be at least three policemen. The immigrant/s is/are escorted via train to West Bengal and the ticket charges comprise most of the deportation amount. On reaching Kolkata, they are taken to four border areas which fall in Nadia, Kalyani and Krishna Nagar districts," said senior inspector Pravin Gosavi.
Police sources said interrogation of most illegal immigrants has revealed that they enter India by bribing security agencies and paying touts. "It costs approximately Rs1,000 for an immigrant to enter India.
Because they live in poverty with no employment opportunities, they come to India illegally in search of jobs and settle here. It is nothing but a waste of government money. If the borders are properly manned, immigrants will not infiltrate our territory," said another officer.
Illegal Bangladeshi immigrants spend a grand to enter India, government spends Rs 4,000 to deport them | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis
Saturday, 31 May 2014 - 7:10am IST | Agency: DNA
While it costs just Rs1,000 for an illegal Bangladeshi immigrant to enter India by paying touts, the state government has to spend four times more to deport him/her back. From 2011 to May this year, the state government has spent Rs50 lakh to deport 1,230 illegal Bangladeshi immigrants.
Police sources said every time an illegal Bangladeshi immigrant is arrested, as per government norms, he is paid various daily allowances for food, tea and stationary. These expenses, say the sources, are apart from the expenses borne to deport the immigrant.
"After an immigrant comes out of jail, we take his/her custody, as a restriction order is issued against him/her, and initiate the deportation process. We communicate with the border security forces and tell them the number of immigrants to be deported back to Bangladesh. The border security forces then give us a date on which the immigrants will be deported," said an officer with the special branch of city police.
A majority of expenses incurred in deporting are while sending the immigrant/s with an escort team. "For each immigrant, there have to be at least three policemen. The immigrant/s is/are escorted via train to West Bengal and the ticket charges comprise most of the deportation amount. On reaching Kolkata, they are taken to four border areas which fall in Nadia, Kalyani and Krishna Nagar districts," said senior inspector Pravin Gosavi.
Police sources said interrogation of most illegal immigrants has revealed that they enter India by bribing security agencies and paying touts. "It costs approximately Rs1,000 for an immigrant to enter India.
Because they live in poverty with no employment opportunities, they come to India illegally in search of jobs and settle here. It is nothing but a waste of government money. If the borders are properly manned, immigrants will not infiltrate our territory," said another officer.
Illegal Bangladeshi immigrants spend a grand to enter India, government spends Rs 4,000 to deport them | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis
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Illegal migration from Bangladesh is a national problem: MoS for Home Kiren Rijiju
Wednesday, 4 June 2014 - 3:15pm IST | Place: New Delhi | Agency: PTI
The Centre on Wednesday termed as "a national problem" the issue of illegal migration from Bangladesh and said action will be taken against those "infiltrators" staying in the Indian territory.
"The issue of illegal migrants and infiltrators in the northeast, especially the issue of Bangladeshis, is a cause of concern for all of us...This is a national problem," Union Minister of State for Home Kiren Rijiju said.
"We have to look at these things from the national perspective. So action will be taken but we have to work along with the state government," Rijiju said. He said this when reporters sought his comment on BJP Assam unit's plan to launch 'Bangladeshi bhagao abhiyan (remove Bangladeshis)' in the state.
Rijiju said his party BJP has never treated the issue of illegal migration as a political problem. "It has been an issue for all of us. Particularly our party. We consider this issue not as a political problem. This is a national problem," he said.
Two days ago, BJP MP from Assam Kamakhaya Prasad Tasa had said a 'Bangladeshi bhagao abhiyan' will be launched by the party in Assam soon. The Jorhat MP had said the drive will start from Jorhat district to be followed by other parts of the state.
Addressing various election rallies last month, Prime Minister Narendra Modi had said illegal immigrants from Bangladesh would have to go back. Modi had also said he would only try to honour the Supreme Court's observation that infiltration was an act of aggression on India. "The Supreme Court has said that infiltration is aggression on India. I have no hesitation in giving respect to what the Supreme Court has said," Modi had said at an election rally at West Bengal's Krishnanagar.
Illegal migration from Bangladesh is a national problem: MoS for Home Kiren Rijiju | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis
Wednesday, 4 June 2014 - 3:15pm IST | Place: New Delhi | Agency: PTI
The Centre on Wednesday termed as "a national problem" the issue of illegal migration from Bangladesh and said action will be taken against those "infiltrators" staying in the Indian territory.
"The issue of illegal migrants and infiltrators in the northeast, especially the issue of Bangladeshis, is a cause of concern for all of us...This is a national problem," Union Minister of State for Home Kiren Rijiju said.
"We have to look at these things from the national perspective. So action will be taken but we have to work along with the state government," Rijiju said. He said this when reporters sought his comment on BJP Assam unit's plan to launch 'Bangladeshi bhagao abhiyan (remove Bangladeshis)' in the state.
Rijiju said his party BJP has never treated the issue of illegal migration as a political problem. "It has been an issue for all of us. Particularly our party. We consider this issue not as a political problem. This is a national problem," he said.
Two days ago, BJP MP from Assam Kamakhaya Prasad Tasa had said a 'Bangladeshi bhagao abhiyan' will be launched by the party in Assam soon. The Jorhat MP had said the drive will start from Jorhat district to be followed by other parts of the state.
Addressing various election rallies last month, Prime Minister Narendra Modi had said illegal immigrants from Bangladesh would have to go back. Modi had also said he would only try to honour the Supreme Court's observation that infiltration was an act of aggression on India. "The Supreme Court has said that infiltration is aggression on India. I have no hesitation in giving respect to what the Supreme Court has said," Modi had said at an election rally at West Bengal's Krishnanagar.
Illegal migration from Bangladesh is a national problem: MoS for Home Kiren Rijiju | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis
LOL loving the butthurt in this thread @UKBengali especially
That being said, I doubt the 80M number is true. I would say somewhere between 5 and 10.
Another figure plucked out of thin air.
Anyway, BD won't accept them so go cry.
Well you can't for obvious reason, low HDI countries struggle a lot.
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@Luffy 500 : good work.
Anyway, India cannot deport a single Muslim from India if BD does not allow them in. Even Hasina would not be stupid enough to accept the millions of Muslims that India wishes to send to BD.
Let the Indians whine and bitch and just laugh at these idiots
That is the point. We dont need to reason to Hindutva terrorists every other day. They cant do anything if BD doesnt take them. Let them Bark.
To the land of moronistan.
@zootinali, well the first part abt early muslim arrival will naturally not be accepted by Indian pop. whose perception has been shaped by a anti-muslim narrative.
The pop. stats are from India's pop. cencus. I even gave a PDF link of another pro-migrant theory writer. The same cencus is used by Hindutvas to support their claim. The narrative has reached such hyteria that any sort of pop. growth is attributed to illegals where as Assam's muslim pop. growth is similar to the rest of India. Low caste hindus and tribes have higher decadal pop. growth rate than overall pop. gr of Assam. Not to mention many of your hindu majority districts with miniscule muslim pop. have more decadal growth rate than the rest of Assam & the couple of muslim majority districts Assam have. VIolence in BTAD districts like Korajhar where Hindus are the overhwelming majority has also been attributed on muslims. Post 71 musli pop. growth in Assam is similar to muslim growth rate thorugh out India. I also cited The Hindu & autors from First post. Nilim Dutta gave stats from Indian cencus. WHat abt authors like Uttam sen gupta , Banajit Hussain of The hindu, Sandip roy of FIrst post or Prashant Bhusan of AAP.
As expected u didn't read the article and given the rediculous fictious myth . Its not expected that Hindtuvas like u can ever come up with some sort of believebale stroy as "evidence" to your decade long claim.
Btw why is IMDT a stupid act? Did most of India's poor have genuine brith certificates dating back to their forefathers pre-71. India is a poor 3rd world country like the rest of S.asia where the poor don't bother with this sort of documents until very recently. The barbarious colonial era foreigners act is rather a good toll to persecute the poorest of poor Indian bengali muslims in their homeland, a land their forefathers help build. WHy should the onus of proving someone's innocence be on the accused? What kind of barbaric uncivilized country is India?
The pop. stats are from India's pop. cencus. I even gave a PDF link of another pro-migrant theory writer. The same cencus is used by Hindutvas to support their claim. The narrative has reached such hyteria that any sort of pop. growth is attributed to illegals where as Assam's muslim pop. growth is similar to the rest of India. Low caste hindus and tribes have higher decadal pop. growth rate than overall pop. gr of Assam. Not to mention many of your hindu majority districts with miniscule muslim pop. have more decadal growth rate than the rest of Assam & the couple of muslim majority districts Assam have. VIolence in BTAD districts like Korajhar where Hindus are the overhwelming majority has also been attributed on muslims. Post 71 musli pop. growth in Assam is similar to muslim growth rate thorugh out India. I also cited The Hindu & autors from First post. Nilim Dutta gave stats from Indian cencus. WHat abt authors like Uttam sen gupta , Banajit Hussain of The hindu, Sandip roy of FIrst post or Prashant Bhusan of AAP.
As expected u didn't read the article and given the rediculous fictious myth . Its not expected that Hindtuvas like u can ever come up with some sort of believebale stroy as "evidence" to your decade long claim.
Btw why is IMDT a stupid act? Did most of India's poor have genuine brith certificates dating back to their forefathers pre-71. India is a poor 3rd world country like the rest of S.asia where the poor don't bother with this sort of documents until very recently. The barbarious colonial era foreigners act is rather a good toll to persecute the poorest of poor Indian bengali muslims in their homeland, a land their forefathers help build. WHy should the onus of proving someone's innocence be on the accused? What kind of barbaric uncivilized country is India?
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