Myanmar says Bangladesh not helping refugee return

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I don't think it's the militancy issue India is worried about.

The reason why India could not overtly side with BD in the Rohingya issue is entirely different.

Believe me, all India wants from Burma is them to help us with our fight against the insurgents.

Burma has always been to the Chinese camp, no matter how hard India try to appease them that won't ever change.

As a result, India can't take the side of BD since that move may send the burmese firmly in the Chinese camp.

This is very true, our hands are sort of tied. Burma just broke a decade long agreement with the Naga insurgents to help India unconditionally, that is a big big step unimaginable just a couple of years back. And then some other measures too that are not out on public domain. India will always take the side of persecuted groups like it always have, we would dearly like the Rohingyas relocated to their rightful homes.

My take is that no matter whose side India takes, China will be the last one laughing regardless.

 

[Bengal71]

Believe me, all India wants from Burma is them to help us with our fight against the insurgents.

Burma has always been to the Chinese camp, no matter how hard India try to appease them that won't ever change.


This is very true, our hands are sort of tied. Burma just broke a decade long agreement with the Naga insurgents to help India unconditionally, that is a big big step unimaginable just a couple of years back. And then some other measures too that are not out on public domain. India will always take the side of persecuted groups like it always have, we would dearly like the Rohingyas relocated to their rightful homes.

My take is that no matter whose side India takes, China will be the last one laughing regardless.

Insurgency issue may have played a role in India's stance but that IMO is only a minor component of it. The bigger issue is the issue I described before. India is missing the forest for the trees IMO. They are hoping for the short term outcome of achieving some brownie points with MM regime but in the long run this regime will be another pain in the neck in the region just like North Korea. At the end of the day blood is thicker than water. The Indian subcontinent is from the same root despite our recent differences, all over the world we are seen as same people. In the end if shit ever hits the fan, it will be us who we will find each other as friends. Rubbing cheek with a totally different people of totally different culture and race will not bear much fruits.

India may have taken the righteous stance if the secular Congress were in power. With BJP in power and rising fundamentalism, that is a pipe dream for the foreseeable future.

 

[namefield_empty]

At the end of the day blood is thicker than water. The Indian subcontinent is from the same root despite our recent differences, all over the world we are seen as same people.

Well said, and i were to add all the tribes in our North East, be it the Nagas or the Meiteis in Manipur or us Assamese, all nurse a grudge against Myanmar for various reasons.

China has Myanmar firmly in her grasp, the events you now see unfold is just China pulling the strings of her puppet. And she is indirectly forcing us to act in a certain way. The insurgent elements in NE are all being aided by China, otherwise they have no consonance with our society. We are therefore seeking to negate the Chinese influence by directly dealing with Myanmar to curb the Chinese influence and access to their resources.

However, our friendship and ties with Bangladesh are historical and independent of Myanmar and China, and i think BJP won't make the mistake of favouring Myanmar in its quest of cleansing Arakan of its settlers. Count us by your side on the Rohingya issue, Myanmar has to pay.

 

[bluesky]

India will always take the side of persecuted groups like it always have, we would dearly like the Rohingyas relocated to their rightful homes.

Indian govt stance may be different from your vis-a-vis Rohingya irrespective of what the Burmese savages did to Assamese in the past. On the other hand, old-time Bengal had a number of expeditions into Assam/Gauhati but our people did not do atrocities there.

However, what India is doing with only a few dozen Rohingya refugees in its land? It is pushing these destitute people to BD. India is no less inhuman than MM when the issue is Muslims. This heinous Indian mind has propelled it to side with MM.

In the case of China, they think all Muslims are from their Uyghur and should be punished and banished.

 

[mb444]

Well said, and i were to add all the tribes in our North East, be it the Nagas or the Meiteis in Manipur or us Assamese, all nurse a grudge against Myanmar for various reasons.

China has Myanmar firmly in her grasp, the events you now see unfold is just China pulling the strings of her puppet. And she is indirectly forcing us to act in a certain way. The insurgent elements in NE are all being aided by China, otherwise they have no consonance with our society. We are therefore seeking to negate the Chinese influence by directly dealing with Myanmar to curb the Chinese influence and access to their resources.

However, our friendship and ties with Bangladesh are historical and independent of Myanmar and China, and i think BJP won't make the mistake of favouring Myanmar in its quest of cleansing Arakan of its settlers. Count us by your side on the Rohingya issue, Myanmar has to pay.

Whilst i understand indias position, she really should not sit on the fence. This is a longterm issue, india does not gain from losing BD good will on this issue.

Modi and BJP reigns supreme it needs to reduce the hindutva claptrap and reduce internal anti muslim rethoric and policy.

BD will not foster any anti india insurgent, it simply gains nothing from it. But strident hindutva is not something that can be maintained without a reaction from BD and its populace. BD needs secularism to continue its economic progress but fascism is contagious and the subcontinent can ill afford it. It will collectively make us weaker.

There is strong leadership in BD, India and PK. It is time to cool tension and forge unity. Other parts of the world is proggessing as unions (umm brexit is an outlier), subcontinent can not rise unless we all rise together. We will will remain puppets of world powers.

 

[Nilgiri]

Whilst i understand indias position, she really should not sit on the fence. This is a longterm issue, india does not gain from losing BD good will on this issue.

Modi and BJP reigns supreme it needs to reduce the hindutva claptrap and reduce internal anti muslim rethoric and policy.

BD will not foster any anti india insurgent, it simply gains nothing from it. But strident hindutva is not something that can be maintained without a reaction from BD and its populace. BD needs secularism to continue its economic progress but fascism is contagious and the subcontinent can ill afford it. It will collectively make us weaker.

There is strong leadership in BD, India and PK. It is time to cool tension and forge unity. Other parts of the world is proggessing as unions (umm brexit is an outlier), subcontinent can not rise unless we all rise together. We will will remain puppets of world powers.

All comes up for discussion only we are done with NRC...first in Assam. Then WB once jihadidi is dealt with (as brutally and painfully as possible).

Then we can start to talk about BD - India "friendship" and what a cry-artist like you in the bricklane ghetto "wants" BJP to be like.

Understand this, it ends only one way for BAL and the loyal c(r)ook we put there to run it. Rohingya from MM is just a warm up for you.