Myanmar says Bangladesh not helping refugee return

[Michael Corleone]

just end their terrosit regime already... ffs. OIC is a useless org, why is Hasina even bother to go there... just come back home and deal with these idiots

 

[Bilal9]

In spite of all the wrongs done by Tatmadaw against the Rohingya, a conflict with MM at this time will only help their rogue regime and not us. We are on a serious upward trajectory economically. I don't want to risk losing the momentum because of some third rate North-Korea wannabe who wants to pick a fight with us. I think they calculated this in the equation as well.

 

[mb444]

In spite of all the wrongs done by Tatmadaw against the Rohingya, a conflict with MM at this time will only help their rogue regime and not us. We are on a serious upward trajectory economically. I don't want to risk losing the momentum because of some third rate North-Korea wannabe who wants to pick a fight with us. I think they calculated this in the equation as well.

I agree. But the a war is likely to be imposed on us. Its a long game. BD needs ro cultivate stategic alliance particularly with the west. India will be brought to heel on our side sooner or later.

 

[bluesky]

Bangladesh Govt is frantically trying to provide better lives for the Rohingyas while they stay in the country. Below is a video clip on under construction Rohingya camps in Bhashanchar. I hope schools are being built there as well to educate the children.

 

[Bengal71]

In spite of all the wrongs done by Tatmadaw against the Rohingya, a conflict with MM at this time will only help their rogue regime and not us. We are on a serious upward trajectory economically. I don't want to risk losing the momentum because of some third rate North-Korea wannabe who wants to pick a fight with us. I think they calculated this in the equation as well.

I agree. But the a war is likely to be imposed on us. Its a long game. BD needs ro cultivate stategic alliance particularly with the west. India will be brought to heel on our side sooner or later.

War is not possible at this stage, it will damage our economy.

The only best solution I can think of is arming the Arakan Army and all the other rebel groups within Burma.
Arakan army can be trained and equipped to the point where they will seriously disrupt any economic development China is pursuing in Arakan. They can be asked to attack some of those installations, on top of that regular ambush of the Burmese army. That will encourage the CHinese to persuade the burmese Junta to take back the Rohingya.

 

[Neptune_]

Bangladesh Govt is frantically trying to provide better lives for the Rohingyas while they stay in the country. Below is a video clip on under construction Rohingya camps in Bhashanchar. I hope schools are being built there as well to educate the children.

They should be made to leave the country ASAP. They have no business in our country. Wtf is wrong with bal.

I m sure bal is doing it to gain sympathy from the mullah brigade.

 

[Bengal71]

They should be made to leave the country ASAP. They have no business in our country. Wtf is wrong with bal.

I m sure bal is doing it to gain sympathy from the mullah brigade.

A better strategy is to use this situation to severe Arakan from MM and make it an independent country. That independent country can act as a barrier between BD and Burmese barbarians.

 

[namefield_empty]

The only best solution I can think of is arming the Arakan Army and all the other rebel groups within Burma.

Please don't do that, that's exactly what the Chinese wants you to do, i have dwelled on that in a thread when i just joined PDF. Couple of BD posters including @Homo Sapiens rightly said that BD should have nothing to do with AA.

 

[Bengal71]

Please don't do that, that's exactly what the Chinese wants you to do, i have dwelled on that in a thread when i just joined PDF. Couple of BD posters including @Homo Sapiens rightly said that BD should have nothing to do with AA.

Well I don't make the call, I am just saying what would be a good strategy.

I highly doubt the Chinese will be happy if we do that. Their investments in the area will be severely affected, the port they are building will be affected, uncle sam will be too happy to see the Chinese investment getting screwed over, they may even lend a helping hand secretly. The best part is BD can deny all of the accusations of helping AA and the Chinese can't prove anything in the international forums, neither do they have any credibility left in the Rohingya crisis.

 

[bluesky]

A better strategy is to use this situation to severe Arakan from MM and make it an independent country. That independent country can act as a barrier between BD and Burmese barbarians.

Correcting the situation by waging undeclared or proxy war may not be feasible when Hasina mindset is considered. She will not choose a path that may cause the rise of military influence in the country. Even arming the Rohingyas will also see the rise of fanatism in the BD-MM-Indian border which no country wants.

I would like to bet on the AA guerrilla group. They will not be radicalized as much as the Muslim Rohingyas will. Let all the Arakanese live freely in their own homeland. But, they have to come out of the Union of Myanmar west of Yommu mountain range by themselves.

 

[Bengal71]

Correcting the situation by waging undeclared or proxy war may not be feasible when Hasina mindset is considered. She will not choose a path that may cause the rise of military influence in the country. Even arming the Rohingyas will also see the rise of fanatism in the BD-MM-Indian border which no country wants.

I would like to bet on the AA guerrilla group. They will not be radicalized as much as the Muslim Rohingyas will. Let all the Arakanese live freely in their own homeland. But, they have to come out of the Union of Myanmar west of Yommu mountain range by themselves.

That is exactly what I said my friend. The Rohingya are too small a number to claim an independent country and they are highly backward and illiterate.

BD must ensure no arms or training goes to any kind of Muslim groups, the moment that happens all the Al-Qaeda, IS brigades will jump in here start blasting bombs everywhere like the morons they are. BD should only arm a secular type of group that seeks to form an independent country, much like the Muktibahini. I also say where there are rebels in MM, even deep inside MM, they should be armed and assisted too. They will drain the resources of MM and overstretch and weaken their military.

 

[namefield_empty]

Well I don't make the call, I am just saying what would be a good strategy.

I know we don't, just putting forth our opinions.

I highly doubt the Chinese will be happy if we do that. Their investments in the area will be severely affected, the post they are building will be affected, uncle sam will be too happy to see the Chinese investment getting screwed over, they may even lend a helping hand secretly.

That's exactly what i am insinuating, we don't want Uncle Sam anywhere near our areas, and BD should not align herself to any country including India if i were to speak objectively.

USA is already aiding rebel factions in Myanmar, don't let them use Arakan and your country as a playground.

 

[Bengal71]

I know we don't, just putting forth our opinions.

That's exactly what i am insinuating, we don't want Uncle Sam anywhere near our areas, and BD should not align herself to any country including India if i were to speak objectively.

USA is already aiding rebel factions in Myanmar, don't let them use Arakan and your country as a playground.

You are the first Indian I met here who said you don't want uncle sam anywhere near our areas. I totally agree with you. Inviting them here will be equivalent to going back to 1757 and the start of East India Company.

I meant uncle sam will lend a helping hand by providing diplomatic support, the diplomatic weight of US alone is 90% of the job done.

Speaking objectively, MM is a country we never had any bone to pick with. We have wanted peaceful relationship with them and wanted them to be our development partners. BD since 1971 always acted as a positive country. We were dirt poor, we kept our head down and kept working hard. We tried to do all the right things in the region, instead of fighting and creating enemies we sat on tables and peacefully solved issues, we did not finance terrorism rather co-operated with other countries (i.e. India) to fight terrorism. So, MM could only find a peaceful neighbor and development partner in BD.

Only the heaven knows why the Burmese had to do these, the Rohingya are only a few million people in such a big country like Burma, they could simply allow them to live like normal citizens, they were never any kind of threat to them.

 

[namefield_empty]

You are the first Indian I met here who said you don't want uncle sam anywhere near our areas. I totally agree with you. Inviting them here will be equivalent to going back to 1757 and the start of East India Company.

I meant uncle sam will lend a helping hand by providing diplomatic support, the diplomatic weight of US alone is 90% of the job done.

Speaking objectively, MM is a country we never had any bone to pick with. We have wanted peaceful relationship with them and wanted them to be our development partners. BD since 1971 always acted as a positive country. We were dirt poor, we kept our head down and kept working hard. We tried to do all the right things in the region, instead of fighting and creating enemies we sat on tables and peacefully solved issues, we did not finance terrorism rather co-operated with other countries (i.e. India) to fight terrorism. So, MM could only find a peaceful neighbor and development partner in BD.

Only the heaven knows why the Burmese had to do these, the Rohingya are only a few million people in such a big country like Burma, they could simply allow them to live like normal citizens, they were never any kind of threat to them.

I know my views as an Assamese may make me unpopular with my Indian compatriots and some from my state too, but barring the infiltration issue we in NE don't have any issues with your country. Historically speaking, you didn't invade our lands, and burn our entire settlements while raping our women and mercilessly killing our kids and youths and pillage our wealth. That ignominy belongs to Burma. How i wish that Burma should have remained a part of India post 1935 so that we could have drilled some sense into them. But that's speaking of a time long gone.

You see, our government has to do a careful balancing act between Burma and your country. India's act east policy is still a pipe dream, what we really want is militancy off our lands. And that would never be possible without the cooperation of Burma.

 

[Bengal71]

I know my views as an Assamese may make me unpopular with my Indian compatriots and some from my state too, but barring the infiltration issue we in NE don't have any issues with your country. Historically speaking, you didn't invade our lands, and burn our entire settlements while raping our women and mercilessly killing our kids and youths and pillage our wealth. That ignominy belongs to Burma. How i wish that Burma should have remained a part of India post 1935 so that we could have drilled some sense into them. But that's speaking of a time long gone.

You see, our government has to do a careful balancing act between Burma and your country. India's act east policy is still a pipe dream, what we really want is militancy off our lands. And that would never be possible without the cooperation of Burma.

I don't think it's the militancy issue India is worried about.

The reason why India could not overtly side with BD in the Rohingya issue is entirely different.

There is a struggle between two global rivals to woo the burmese and bring them to their side. On one side are the Chinese, on the other side are the US and it's ally India. The Chinese want the burmese under their control so they can project some naval power into the Bay of Bengal and the Indian ocean, they are trying to do in MM what they did with CPEC in Pakistan. On the other hand, the US wants to maintain it's global supremacy and the naval supremacy of USN anywhere in the world including the Indian ocean, they too want the MM in their camp and Suu Ki is their sweetheart in MM for that. As a result, India can't take the side of BD since that move may send the burmese firmly in the Chinese camp.

There is another reason, there is hindu fundamentalist BJP government in power and they have carnal hatred of Muslims, they salivate over anything bad happening to Muslims anywhere in the world. They were just too happy this was happening to the Rohingya muslims.