Myanmar Peace Prize laureate criminally silent on Muslims cleansing

[Shinigami]

can someone compare military of BD and MM

 

[KRAIT]

NATO.....Why ??? Do myanmar also have oil reserve????

I am saying SCO should take initiative...its time that they should take some responsibility and flex their muscles.

 

[Cherokee]

At the End of the Day Bangladesh Will not Attack Myanmar or vice versa . India is Literally between them . Only Way i can see this issue getting resolved is by usage of Indian and Chinese Influence in Myanmar . Myanmar is close to both these countries . India will only intervene when there is a public Outcry . Minority Vote banks at the time of election matter a lot to politicians . So if they raise this issue along with main stream public . More than 99 % of Indians and about 99.99% of Indian Muslims don't even know about it . I hope they raise this issue that it the only way it's gonna get solved .

 

[ajtr]

that small strip has terrain thats almost inhuman. u cant have a land war there

that small strip is hundreds of mile long.You call cox bazar chitgong area as inhumane tarrian as indian navy which did repeated incursions in these two sectors for 2 weeks.

I find bangladesh equally guilty for turning away Rohingya muslims who escaped to bangladesh.

 

[Shinigami]

that small strip is hundreds of mile long.You call cox bazar chitgong area as inhumane tarrian as indian navy which did repeated incursions in these two sectors for 2 weeks.

I find bangladesh equally guilty for turning away Rohingya muslims who escaped to bangladesh.

indian navy pounded cox bazaar in 1971 using CARRIER BASED fighter bombers. not groung troops

Indian Navy at war 1971 east - YouTube

 

[kalu_miah]

If I was in charge of Bangladesh, every time they start killing Rohingya in Burma, I would start troop movements. Problem is we have a complete imbecile good for nothing Hasina as our leader. Saving innocent human life is duty of all human beings.

Here is what I proposed in another thread:

We have discussed this issue in detail in many threads since news came out about the Rohingya riots and killings in Burma, here are some of the threads:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/183835-myanmar-bangladesh-relations.html
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...cleansing-muslim-rohingyas-burma-myanmar.html
http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/189021-helicopters-fire-rohingya-refugees.html
http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/154682-peep-into-arakan-history.html
http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangladesh-defence/189387-history-chittagong-arakan.html

Please look at these threads for background information and news. Rohingya Muslims are being denied citizenship of Burma by the Burmese govt. Out of about 2-3 million Rohingya Muslims, they have kicked out most of them, only about 750,000 remain there. Many were killed in this ethnic cleansing process, and it continues as we speak.

If Muslim nations join hands, helping them may be possible:

- first we need to bring this up in OIC and see which Muslim nations come forward to help, we will call this group of nations "friends of Rohingya"
- then together we have to apply diplomatic pressure to Burma using India and China, its two main allies, so Burmese govt. accept them as citizens, take back all Rohingya refugees from different countries of the world and make sure that their human rights are not violated
- if diplomacy does not work, then "friends of Rohingya" group of nations should think about military intervention, and create a safe haven for them by occupying the state of Arakan
- "friends of Rohingya" will have to ensure that China or India do not interfere in this conflict
- remaining Rohingya's can be armed and trained as insurgents
- when they have sufficiently softened the Burmese Army in Arakan, this side of Arakan Yoma Mountain range (brown part next to Chittagong), then an invasion force can take over Arakan

Also threads that describe problems with minority insurgents in Burma such as Kachin, Karen, Mon, Shan etc.:
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...itioned-greater-regional-stability-peace.html
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/188426-burmas-genocide-minorities.html
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...roids-using-insurgency-geopolitical-tool.html

What about nobel peace prize to Obama?

Equally bogus, this exposes hypocrisy of so called civilized people.

 

[KRAIT]

Its easy to blame your govt than doing anything. Start a protest movement forcing govt. to take action. If the movement gets strong, govt. might act, due to vote bank or public pressure.

Look at anti-corruption drive in India, even if the end result is not near, it certainly made people aware of the corruption at every level.

All one needs is a START.

 

[ajtr]

indian navy pounded cox bazaar in 1971 using CARRIER BASED fighter bombers. not groung troops

Indian Navy at war 1971 east - YouTube

Sure u need to read a lot more about history and geography.spend time on books than on youtube videos.

 

[Shinigami]

@ kalu_miah, you are an optimistic daydreamer, to think that india and china, who staked so much in resource rich burma, will let all that investment burn away for "muslim brother hood". even North east india needs a burmese port to connect with the mainland

 

[kalu_miah]

cross posted from another thread:

HOW TO LIBERATE ARAKAN and save Rohingya's from genocide

Rakhine people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Rohingya people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to wiki article there are around 3.3 million Rakhine Buddhists, 3.1 million in Burma and around 200,000 in Bangladesh. There are around 2 million Rohingya's, out of which 800,000 in Burma, 300,000 in Bangladesh and the rest about 1 million scattered around the world (may be someone with more knowledge can verify this, asad71 bhai?)

The biggest question I have is in an independent Arakan, there is 3.1 million Rakhines and around 2 million or more Rohingya's, but some estimated the real number as high as 4 million (again we need some reliable source for this), but it could be as low as 1 million, just based on Rohingya population in Bangladesh and Arakan, so without Rakhine's agreeing to and fighting for an independent Arakan, it will be a difficult to liberate Arakan, as they are the majority.

So the political part and grass roots opinion making has to precede first and see if we can find Rakhine leaders who will work with us to see whether Rakhines really want independence. Lets learn from the Kao boys of RAW, and see if we can engineer a secession based on some solid grass roots support for independence among Rakhine population. The military and insurgency part can wait for much later.

For more details on how India broke Pakistan, please read details here:
http://www.defence.pk/forums/milita...bureau-ib-r-aw-east-pakistan-1963-1971-a.html

If Rakhines do not agree, then last resort will be to create a temporary safe haven for Rohingya's in northern part of Arakan, along Bangladesh border, till Burma's govt. make a favorable decision about Rohingya citizenship.

In the meantime, we need to work on our airforce, buy 1-2 awacs, install some big radars in highest mount tops in CHT with good visibility in surrounding theater, try to upgrade fighters to get direct datalink with awacs and ground radars and increase number and quality of air superiority fighters. We should also consult with other sympathetic Muslim nations to see if any of them will bring their air force assets if needed, in a conflict situation. But I have detailed these steps in this post:
http://www.defence.pk/forums/bangla...y-silent-muslims-cleansing-3.html#post3183984
where India and China will need to be given the opportunity to solve this diplomatically with Myanmar govt. first.

Also, we should start giving combat training to our 6-7 million Ansar VDP forces, so they can work under regular infantry soldiers to multiply the number of forces in a total war situation. Navy will have to be upgraded as well.

These preparations will take at least 3-4 years and hopefully in the meantime Hasina will be out and Khaleda Zia will be in, who hopefully will be more sympathetic and responsible about this Rohingya problem.

We can also start training the Rohingya's in Bangladesh as insurgents, but not give them any arms or ammunition yet for deployment. Insurgency option should be exercised much later after:

- Rakhine leadership have been contacted and their opinion on independence have been explored
- India and China have applied diplomatic pressure and failed
- Burmese Junta with or without help from Rakhine militia continues its policy of killing and ethnic cleansing of Rohingya

If Rohingya's are not killed outright and forced out to the sea, just for legal issues like citizenship, we will not have a just cause to intervene, but if they are killing them, then the question will arise to arm and deploy the insurgents as the first step to create a favorable ground situation and then a humanitarian military intervention can follow at a time of our choosing.

We should prepare, as we do not have an option to avoid this conflict, they have already forced a war on us, by creating a refugee problem for decades and still not solving it. If we can have sufficient preparation, it might change Burmese Junta to change the policy of killing and ethnic cleansing, hopefully without our intervention.

 

[LaBong]

What is the position of ioc and opec about it? Have Arab countries sent any aid package or decided to shelter some of them in their sparsely populated countries. Has anyone raised a voice so far.

And also why Bangladeshis creating hundreds of threads and crying genocide when they are turning those refugess(numbered less than thousand so far) back to Myanmar.

 

[Kesang]

This is not about the refugee only, its a continued problem and persecution of Bengali community in Burma. We cant just keep our eyes closed as it is spilling over to us.

Hypocrisy. When we helped Tamil when sinhalese committing genocide against Tamil. You people were saying India has bad habit of poking nose in other's internal matter. Now what are you doing?

Besides Mizoram does not have 1 lac refugee.

Report Highlights Plight of Ethnic Chins from Burma Seeking Refuge in India - Entertainment News - redOrbit

Report highlights Chin refugees

Chin refugees in India need international support

 

[kalu_miah]

@ kalu_miah, you are an optimistic daydreamer, to think that india and china, who staked so much in resource rich burma, will let all that investment burn away for "muslim brother hood". even North east india needs a burmese port to connect with the mainland

World or regional powers sacrifice other people's live, to protect their strategic interest, as is happening now in Syria. 16,000 killed because Russia and China is giving Asad regime a lifeline.

The situation in Arakan is a bit different. There is this Arakan Yoma mountain range and also there is active insurgencies all over Burma's periphery and all of them will help the Arakan liberation cause, if Rakhines agree to this project.

If Rakhine and Rohingya decide to work together to liberate Arakan, Burman Army will not be able to stop the insurgency campaign.

But in a way you are correct, China and India has strategic and economic interest here, US/West have also gotten on board recently after Suu Kyi's election and becoming member of parliament. So the Junta is in its strongest position in years, because the world and regional powers are on its side. So I think they chose this moment to test the water and see how far they can proceed with their ethnic cleansing project and remove Rohingya's from their land.

If the world powers look the other way and ethnic cleansing continues, there is a risk that Islamist volunteer fighters will find a way to get in there, no matter how much we try to prevent it, and fight alongside their fellow Muslims and that will be bad for all of us in the region, as it will mean further destabilization of not just Myanmar, but entire region, including, Bangladesh, Indian North East states, Chinese Yunan, all of Burma's insurgent controlled areas as well as northern Thailand.

 

[M_Saint]

Indians seem to revel in the misary of Muslims. Are there any non hindutva Indian posters here? A people is being liquadated by a
state for being the wrong colour and religion and they find excuses. surely simple humanity should preclude one from such excesses

BRO,

As soon as the Buddhists started cleansing Rohingya Muslims, Indians vehemently advocated for BD to take them. Although from humanitarian perspective, it was OK but that wasn't there motive. Being indoctrinated with hatefulness against Muslims, they were indeed conspiring with the line on driving the so-called 20 Mil illegal BDians out. If Rohingyas could be cleansed and Bengali speaking+North-Eastern Muslims could be pushed out to BD then gradually the conspiracy-case against the rest of Indian Muslims could also be hatched to deport them in PAK. Thus South-East Asian Muslims would be concentrated in PAK-BD and with the nuke; all of them could be wiped out. That's how they want to remove prophetic fabric from our hemisphere IMO.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Do a few of you Indians...ermm...jerk off to muslim dead body pics? ;p

It have got nothing to do with muslims or dead bodies...
Just wanted to see ur hypocritical replies, when i saw the killing of some 40000 tamils in SL...
Complete hypocrites...

this is so on the nail, the west made the lady nobel peace laureate and no voice from here on the killings

this also exposes the nobel peace prize which are politically motivated

Whats the need to cry off, when some from muslim world blows the killings to 20000 for no reasons, just cos they are muslims?
Its an ethnic unrest... BD cant invade them,,, She will talk when needed...

World or regional powers sacrifice other people's live, to protect their strategic interest, as is happening now in Syria. 16,000 killed because Russia and China is giving Asad regime a lifeline.

The situation in Arakan is a bit different. There is this Arakan Yoma mountain range and also there is active insurgencies all over Burma's periphery and all of them will help the Arakan liberation cause, if Rakhines agree to this project.

If Rakhine and Rohingya decide to work together to liberate Arakan, Burman Army will not be able to stop the insurgency campaign.

But in a way you are correct, China and India has strategic and economic interest here, US/West have also gotten on board recently after Suu Kyi's election and becoming member of parliament. So the Junta is in its strongest position in years, because the world and regional powers are on its side. So I think they chose this moment to test the water and see how far they can proceed with their ethnic cleansing project and remove Rohingya's from their land.

If the world powers look the other way and ethnic cleansing continues, there is a risk that Islamist volunteer fighters will find a way to get in there, no matter how much we try to prevent it, and fight alongside their fellow Muslims and that will be bad for all of us in the region, as it will mean further destabilization of not just Myanmar, but entire region, including, Bangladesh, Indian North East states, Chinese Yunan, all of Burma's insurgent controlled areas as well as northern Thailand.

Dont poke in internal matters of mathers.... Get off...
Do what u preach,,,...

And prove 16k were killed by Syrian Assad? Even opposition have done human rights violation , but sadly no one informs them..