Muslims in India

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Dear friends I am sorry for opening the thread relating to " India is modern says Pakistani diplomat".... I have certain view regarding the postings by Asim...

Hey if you believe a diplomats, diplomatic phrases in one part then believe him in the other as well

All this has no face value, at all. India isn't the Indiana Jones like tribal land but its not a role model anywhere. Even the present government isn't mimicking India.

India with all its might and glory is merely a decade ahead of us. The decade of sanctions and BB and NS. With a little flexing of muscles Pakistan is all set to challenge India, probably by 2020.

As far as democracy is a concerned, India's democracy is a joke. The will of the people is not implemented.

Thanks asim no one is asking you to follow our model....Every country has its own development model... Before long BBC used to be fool ... CNN used to be a fool .. Goldmann shacs use to bee a fool and biased because they claimed Indias growth was healthy .. now your own diplomat is one among them eh..

If pakistan wants to catch us in ten decades than all the best to it ..


Kindly watch your backyard before commenting on us... we go to polls to vote and we arent fools exactly and ur statement implies that we are foools ...

f having a Sikh PM was a sign of India's multiculturalism, Sikhs wouldn't be up in arms in Punjab these days...

India's famous non-Hindus are mostly very much Hindu like. Lol Shahrukh Khan had some movie made or something, instead of having a Quran-khani, he holds a mohrat. Ridiculous.

How integrated are the regular Muslims who don't get the large sums of money that the Hindus give PMs and actors

Now what do I call you... Sikhs were up in arms and ur isi suppoted them and they failed in their objective of getting independent khalistan....If you are referring to the current riots I D SUGGEST UD BETTER READ THE NEWS PAPERS.. tHE RIOTS are between two sects of sikh community and have nothing to do with anything about secession..

Hell Sikhs are the most patriotic of Indians I have ever met.. Ever come across Indian army .. You can always find that the best of our frontline soldiers are sikhs.. I would never ever dare to cal them unpatriotic in punjab.. ThEN id have my head cut off cause they are the most patriotic of Indians and kindly refrain from calling people of certain nationality unpatriotic


and about your last statement .. yes there have been some integration problem with muslims.. But the reason is that muslims tend to ghettoise themselves .. They need to come out and mingle with people... I have several of my college mates coming form muslim backgrounds whose fathers are poor drivers or labroures .. These kids have studied hard and have got merit admission to institutes and are mingling with the people..No one had pulled their legs , they had choosen to mingle freely and work hard.. In same way no one are keeping the muslims in a ghetto .. It is their choice .... If they want they can come and mingle freely. In fact except for the riots I dont think we are living in bosnia and serbia.. we have muslims and hindus working together and integrated together..

Just getting the right to vote makes you Democratic? So many nations have elections...


come 2010, we can start expecting another Genocide... Since Indians perform a ritual genocide per decade.

Ya its a ritual to us... just because hindu looneys form a party jion hands and did whatever they did.. you cannot generalise.. Now if want then how about the massacres committed by pakistani and kashmiri millitants on kashmiri pandits...Your statemnt implies that Indians commit genocide that means the forum membbers here are indians and are alos a p[art of the genocide is it? then hust for the sake of logic .. cause of al queda can i genarlise all muslims to be terrorists.. NO i WONT ....

In India either a Muslim is appeased and 'brought' to the level of President for India's showmanship or either he's ******* in some patch of dirt... You don't have regular Muslims! OK ok, best thing to tell about the Pakistani- Indian comparison. In India, Most Muslims hate India or are at least unpatriotic (yes not Shahrukh Khan or that Feroz Khan or ummm Amir Khan maybe) but regular joes... Let's say a middle class clerk from Gujarat? Or from UP?

In Pakistani Hindus would kick your *** just the same for dissing Pakistan. Literally

kINDLY COME all the way to tamilnadu.. be my guest visit places like Royapettah and triplicane( areas dominated by mulims in chennai.. the capital of tamilnadu) and read out the statements you had made..Mate I just cant even imagine how the muslims will react to you if they heard you saying the things you have said about them ..

Mods even if you ban me let me say this... ASIM HOW DARE YOU TALK ABOUT MUSLIMS IN INDIA BEING UNPATRIOTIC.. KISS MY ***.. EVEN MY MUSLIM FRIENDS WOULD HAVE BURNT YOU ALIVE HAD THEY HEARD THIS..YOU STATEMENT DESERVES NO DECENCY ...

o what? 50% of the Hindu majority countries are meddling into other people's affairs too! Are 50% of Muslim countries meddling into other people's affairs?

90% of the world's Hindu population is support cutting open pregnant bellies... "DEMOCRATICALLY".

Go ahead make more ridiculous comparisons, I can throw each and every argument right back at ya! YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN US! Get off your high horse, "modern India!".

I thought this forum was civilised ...but sadly guys like you tend to cause flame and nothing else ....How dare you call the Hindus murderes.. How is it if i CALLL ALL THE MUSLIMS MURDERERS.. LEAST THATS WHAT THE WORLD THINKS...

yOU HAVE FIRST BADMOUTHED WRONGLY ABOUT MY DEAR FELLOW HARDWORKING MUSLIM BROTHERS AND NOW YOU BADMOUTH US...

 

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Thanks asim no one is asking you to follow our model....Every country has its own development model... Before long BBC used to be fool ... CNN used to be a fool .. Goldmann shacs use to bee a fool and biased because they claimed Indias growth was healthy .. now your own diplomat is one among them eh..

Yes... I know you are looking for our approval. No one's doubting India's growth rate. But its a high growth rate of a poverty stricken, third world country. Just like Pakistan...

If pakistan wants to catch us in ten decades than all the best to it ..

It will be decades before India can be "modern".

Kindly watch your backyard before commenting on us... we go to polls to vote and we arent fools exactly and ur statement implies that we are foools ...

Tell me this, does your democracy can have the guts to give the freedom of choosing, to the Kashmiris? DEMO means people. It isn't a people'scracy till the people can't choose!

Now what do I call you... Sikhs were up in arms and ur isi suppoted them and they failed in their objective of getting independent khalistan...

They didn't fail in mustering up support for the movement, which lives on today. They failed because Bhindranwale n all crushed by the Indian military might. Keep blaming ISI, maybe the minorities really do hate the tyrannical majority?

If you are referring to the current riots I D SUGGEST UD BETTER READ THE NEWS PAPERS.. tHE RIOTS are between two sects of sikh community and have nothing to do with anything about secession..

Actually one's a political organization, which tried to piss off the Sikhs. The fight is still there. Indians still continue to venture into political incorrectness against the minorities.

Hell Sikhs are the most patriotic of Indians I have ever met.. Ever come across Indian army .. You can always find that the best of our frontline soldiers are sikhs.. I would never ever dare to cal them unpatriotic in punjab.. ThEN id have my head cut off cause they are the most patriotic of Indians and kindly refrain from calling people of certain nationality unpatriotic

Fine line between unhappy and unpatriotic.

and about your last statement .. yes there have been some integration problem with muslims.. But the reason is that muslims tend to ghettoise themselves .. They need to come out and mingle with people...

Dude in most upper class places a well to do Muslim cannot even get housing! They are asked are you a Hindu or a Muslim? Muslim? Get out!

Nobody likes to live in ghettos, genius!

I have several of my college mates coming form muslim backgrounds whose fathers are poor drivers or labroures .. These kids have studied hard and have got merit admission to institutes and are mingling with the people..No one had pulled their legs , they had choosen to mingle freely and work hard.. In same way no one are keeping the muslims in a ghetto .. It is their choice .... If they want they can come and mingle freely. In fact except for the riots I dont think we are living in bosnia and serbia.. we have muslims and hindus working together and integrated together..

Right and what percentage of Indians are college graduates as opposed to the regular joes? I agree there are many nice Indians who sincerely wish to help their nation with the integration.

Ya its a ritual to us... just because hindu looneys form a party jion hands and did whatever they did.. you cannot generalise.. Now if want then how about the massacres committed by pakistani and kashmiri millitants on kashmiri pandits...Your statemnt implies that Indians commit genocide that means the forum membbers here are indians and are alos a p[art of the genocide is it? then hust for the sake of logic .. cause of al queda can i genarlise all muslims to be terrorists.. NO i WONT ....

Political parties! Al Qaeda holds no political standing. India's hindu parties were the former government! And Still the main trouble spots of Hindu-Muslim integration are the areas where Hindu governments still stand. Hindu Governments are the problem or the Muslims who want to hug their ghettos and live a miserable life deliberately?

kINDLY COME all the way to tamilnadu.. be my guest visit places like Royapettah and triplicane( areas dominated by mulims in chennai.. the capital of tamilnadu) and read out the statements you had made..Mate I just cant even imagine how the muslims will react to you if they heard you saying the things you have said about them ..

Oh please South Indians are the most unpatriotic of all Indians! Save a select few who live a very modernized life and eventually TRY to learn to not behave like a South Indian! It doesn't matter if they are Hindu or Muslim, to them the loyalty is to Tamilnadu or Kerala!

They have Hindu/Muslim rivalries with them!

We have a Hindu owned supermarket and a Muslim owned supermarket serving one locality which is mainly Malayalee or Tamil. Both supermarkets are owned by Malayalees. It's amazing how the South Indian Hindus living close to The Muslim supermarket (which btw is a b igger chain and hence slightly cheaper) walk all the way to the Hindu one just to preserve their Hindu loyalty. And Muslim South Indians do the same.

Mods even if you ban me let me say this... ASIM HOW DARE YOU TALK ABOUT MUSLIMS IN INDIA BEING UNPATRIOTIC.. KISS MY ***.. EVEN MY MUSLIM FRIENDS WOULD HAVE BURNT YOU ALIVE HAD THEY HEARD THIS..YOU STATEMENT DESERVES NO DECENCY ...

I can dare a lot of things when I see people living in glass houses casting stones towards me.

I thought this forum was civilised ...but sadly guys like you tend to cause flame and nothing else ....How dare you call the Hindus murderes.. How is it if i CALLL ALL THE MUSLIMS MURDERERS.. LEAST THATS WHAT THE WORLD THINKS...

How dare you vote for the people who go around killing pregnant women? At least we don't vote Bin Laden as our President. He is an outlaw on the run! You guys make them Chief Minister!

yOU HAVE FIRST BADMOUTHED WRONGLY ABOUT MY DEAR FELLOW HARDWORKING MUSLIM BROTHERS AND NOW YOU BADMOUTH US...

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lISTEN i admire this forum .. I DO THAT BECAUSE OF HOPW MEMBERS ARE SENSITIVE TO EACH OTHERS EMOTIONS AND FEELINGS... members like keyserzone have showe how forum should be run.. THEY DONT BAD MOUTH other religion or country .. On the contrary .. you had insulted our country and our fellow muslim men....

Go ahead ban me if you want .....

Your posts show your inferiority complex .... Thats why you spend a lesser part of life trying to degrade my country and in that process dragging Indian muslims into it ....

What do you know about the south Indians.. HOW CAN YOU CALL THEM UNPATRIOTIC.. i d rather say shut ur big fat mouth ...... TAMILNADU HAS ALWAYS BEEN LOYAL TO INDIA.. if you believe that we would end up with tamil tigers then dream on ....

How abou muslims in your beloved balochistan.. nwp your own shias and sunnis butching each other ....

This is the limit to my patience .. .. I HAD ALWAYS BEEN AN AVID READER OF THIS FORUM BEFORE JOINING ......

 

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lISTEN i admire this forum .. I DO THAT BECAUSE OF HOPW MEMBERS ARE SENSITIVE TO EACH OTHERS EMOTIONS AND FEELINGS... members like keyserzone have showe how forum should be run.. THEY DONT BAD MOUTH other religion or country .. On the contrary .. you had insulted our country and our fellow muslim men....

I'm sorry you've got the wrong impression of us. This forum has never claimed to be a promoter of goody goody emotions and sensibilities. Instead we encourage all of our members to engage in tough issues, and debate upon what they believe in. Pakistanis or Indians it doesn't matter.

Voicing my opinion on your country and fellow Muslim men is my RIGHT as this is a forum dedicated to debating on political issues. You voicing your opinions about me and your shattered dream about us, is not. So you WILL stop. Either comment about a real political/religious issue in the right forum or shush up! This is not a forum to discuss ME.

Go ahead ban me if you want .....

We ban people for transgressing upon the above mentioned limitations. Not by who we want to ban!

Your posts show your inferiority complex .... Thats why you spend a lesser part of life trying to degrade my country and in that process dragging Indian muslims into it ....

Who cast the first stone? If you all received a good humbling lesson from me (upon the issues) then try not turn into a big sob story over it!

What do you know about the south Indians.. HOW CAN YOU CALL THEM UNPATRIOTIC.. i d rather say shut ur big fat mouth ...... TAMILNADU HAS ALWAYS BEEN LOYAL TO INDIA.. if you believe that we would end up with tamil tigers then dream on ....

Not only that, the rest of India considers them a different nation as well . I have a pretty good understanding of south Indians.

How abou muslims in your beloved balochistan.. nwp your own shias and sunnis butching each other ....

How about it? That's bad.

This is the limit to my patience .. .. I HAD ALWAYS BEEN AN AVID READER OF THIS FORUM BEFORE JOINING ......

You can leave if your world has shattered right before your eyes!

We are a forum that GUARANTEE a right to speak up, about defence, political, social and religious issues in relevant forums that we've put up. Just because I've cut you a break because you are non-person to me and your little personal comments make no difference to me, DO TAKE NOTE. I will BAN you, if you make personal comments about another member of this forum.

Members have protection here, not countries, religions, ideologies and especially not emotions and sensitivities.

Thread locked... Gave you enough rope to rant hoping you'd start a nice debate, but it's just all a rant.