Muslims in Britain should take counter-extremism lessons: Tahir ul Qadri

[Raja.Pakistani]

Doubtful.

It don't suit to your pre-conceived notions and prejudice with islam and Muslims

 

[Audio]

It don't suit to your pre-conceived notions and prejudice with islam and Muslims

I amended my post with some more explanation on why i think so.

 

[Shamain]

One question 1why the same Britain doesnt arrest cleric anjum choudhary???

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

It's pretty obvious that some "laws of the land" go against Islam.It is only natural that those that think like you should be thrown out or removed from mainstream society.Tit for that,live in your land how you want,Muslim laws don't mean anything for the rest of us,they're equal to 0,we care nothing for them.

I agree with you those Muslims who live in non-Muslims should obey the law of the land. In a Muslim country like mine, non-Muslim laws ''don't mean anything for the rest of us, they're equal to 0, we care nothing for them''.

Muslims in Britain should take counter-extremism lessons: Tahir ul Qadri
June 23, 2015, 4:27 pm
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London: Every Muslim in Britain should be made to take counter-extremism lessons at school to prevent radicalisation, a Pakistani politician and senior Islamic scholar has said.
Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri said that lessons on “peace”, “counter-terrorism” and “deradicalisation” should be made part of the national curriculum in state schools.
He said the subjects should be made compulsory for all Muslim students in the country and optional for non-Muslim children.
It comes as more than 700 Britons have travelled to the Middle East to fight alongside Isil, with around half believed to have returned to the UK.

David Cameron recently criticised Muslim communities who “quietly condone” extremism and defended British authorities who have been blamed by the families of some who have fled east.

Dr Qadri, a Pakistani politician and Sufi Islamic scholar, told BBC Radio Four’s Today programme that Britain should tackle the problem of radicalisation early through the state education system.

He said that while the Muslim community should bear responsibility for talking the problem “first of all” the government can also act through schools.

“It should be on the curriculum. Peace should be taken as peace studies as a subject. Deradicalsation should be taken as a subject. Counter-terrorism should be taken as a subject,” Dr Qadri said.

“The problem is that we have not been addressing this issue on the theological front and on the ideological front. We have been taking it just as a political, economic and social issue.”

He later added: “We should try to influence the generations – whether second or third of fourth – to always be peaceful and always condemn the act of extremism, act of terrorism wherever it is.

“It should be put on the curriculum, it should be made compulsory for Muslim generations, Muslim students, and it should be made optional for non-Muslim students.”

“But they should be taught the actual real teachings of the Koran … based on love and tolerance and coexistence and togetherness.”

Such a move could prove controversial, with some likely to warn forcing Muslim children to take anti-extremism lessons away from other children could further alienate them.

However the proposals reflect a growing unease about the scale of the problem of radicalisation in Britain and elsewhere with the emergence and establishment of Isil.

Mr Cameron used a major speech in Bratislava, Slovakia, last week to call on more to be done by Muslim communities themselves to stop radicalisation.

“We’ve always had angry young men and women buying into supposedly revolutionary causes. This one is evil, is it contradictory, it is futile but it is particularly potent today,” the Prime Minister said.

“I think part of the reason it’s so potent is that it has been given this credence.

"So if you’re a troubled boy who is angry at the world or a girl looking for an identity, for something to believe in, and there’s something that is quietly condoned online or perhaps even in parts of your local community then it’s less of a leap to go from a British teenager to an Isil fighter or an Isil wife than it would be for someone who hasn’t been exposed to these things.”

A Department of Education spokesperson said: “All schools must actively promote the fundamental British values of democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty, and mutual respect and tolerance for those of different faiths and beliefs.

“Ofsted inspect schools to ensure they comply with this requirement, where schools do not we take swift action, which may involve changing the school leadership or closing the school.

“In addition from 1 July all schools will have a statutory duty to prevent pupils from being drawn into terrorism - this will include safeguarding against radicalisation and checking the speakers they bring in to school.”

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Tahirul-Qadri's opinions don't mean nothing. He has a fatwa-ul-kuffur on him from our Sunni-Barelvi Ulma Ikram.

He is another puppet, Munafaq!

 

[EasyNow]

British had no element of extremism in their society when they were not puppet of USA..
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Sorry to say it but you're completely wrong here.

Radicalisation was at its peak before any of the 'invasions'. My university, school and college all were infiltrated by hizb ut tahrir, al muhajiroun and there likes, openly talking about jihad, evil Jews, Americans, and the 'new world order'. All that happened after 9/11 is that govt started to look at them more closely and realised how bad things were.

Those groups were banned later, but it was too late. A whole generation of uk Muslims has been poisoned - and this generation is just taking it further.

 

[Jungibaaz]

It's a good enough suggestion, though it ought not to be too formal or forceful, both for reasons of liberty and effectiveness.

It can happen if British first stops being partners with USA in attacking Muslim lands.

Two wrongs don't make a right, one wrong need not be a condition for another. May God deliver us from such logic.

 

[Butchcassidy]

Im living in Europe and you are wrong.

U r from the land of ataturk, so we will let it pass

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

I can't see how someone living in Christendom having a good life turns to violence. It's definitely not religion and I can give evidences from the Quran and Sunnah about killing innocent people is haram.

These children must be bored and not feeling challenged. There can't be any other explanation.

 

[Tiger Genie]

Sorry they are first and foremost Muslims. Every Muslim first and only loyalty to is Islam. Every Muslim should follow law of the land as long as it doesn't go against Islam.

that's utter BS. It is statements such as this and the stupid 'only true religion' kind of nonsense that has turned all suspicions on islam. learn to live in peace with others. Islam is just one other religion amongst many. The laws of the land are always superior to that of any religion, including islam. Take a number or take a walk.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Sorry to say it but you're completely wrong here.

Radicalisation was at its peak before any of the 'invasions'. My university, school and college all were infiltrated by hizb ut tahrir, al muhajiroun and there likes, openly talking about jihad, evil Jews, Americans, and the 'new world order'. All that happened after 9/11 is that govt started to look at them more closely and realised how bad things were.

Those groups were banned later, but it was too late. A whole generation of uk Muslims has been poisoned - and this generation is just taking it further.

Agreed. I felt it in early 1980s. The seed was sprouting. Our school got visited by YMA. Around 1990 a university in Birmingham was brimming with various groups. There were lots of senior Arabs mostly asylum seekers from the secular Arab countries like Iraq/Eygpt/Tunisia who all had the young Pakistani's students in the palm of their hands. The signs of trouble were there ...

One question 1why the same Britain doesnt arrest cleric anjum choudhary???

Rule of law. He may hold ridicalous views but thus far he has not broken the law. He has caused so much resentment with the English in particular by demonstrating near a military air base where dead British soldiers came back from Afghanistan. All that anger rebounds on British Pakistani's. Of course being more law abiding the English are not beating us up or killing us but trust me lot of them are annoyed. I talk a lot to them and lot of them support more extreme parties that want Muslim immigration to stop.

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

that's utter BS. It is statements such as this and the stupid 'only true religion' kind of nonsense that has turned all suspicions on islam. learn to live in peace with others. Islam is just one other religion amongst many. The laws of the land are always superior to that of any religion. Take a number or take a walk.

Bhai! He speaks the truth. Islam is the true religion and the only one accepted by Allah.

Why have Muslims since the end of the cold war been targeted? The first article written was in 1994 in the Economist - Islam the next threat! The West needs an ENEMY! It went through all the religions and said, Islam is a complete religion with its own Economic, Political, Judicial Systems.

 

[Butchcassidy]

Bhai! He speaks the truth. Islam is the true religion and the only one accepted by Allah.

Why have Muslims since the end of the cold war been targeted? The first article written was in 1994 in the Economist - Islam the next threat! The West needs an ENEMY! It went through all the religions and said, Islam is a complete religion with its own Economic, Political, Judicial Systems.

Yeah did god tell u this?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I can't see how someone living in Christendom having a good life turns to violence. It's definitely not religion and I can give evidences from the Quran and Sunnah about killing innocent people is haram.
These children must be bored and not feeling challenged. There can't be any other explanation.

Can you give me one example of any mainstream religion ( Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Zoroastrianism etc ) or any secular society that finds "killing innocent people acceptable"?

Then do you want to explain why Muslims are not being killed like dogs in UK ( Dar al Harb ) and why Muslims are being killed like rats in Pakistan ( Dar al Islam ) ?

 

[Azad-Kashmiri]

Can you give me one example of any mainstream religion ( Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Zoroastrianism etc ) or any secular society that finds "killing innocent people acceptable"?

Not sure how your comment has any relevance with what i wrote? So, we can all (different backgrounds) agree on killing innocent people is haram. GOOD!

Then do you want to explain why Muslims are not being killed like dogs in UK ( Dar al Harb ) and why Muslims are being killed like rats in Pakistan ( Dar al Islam ) ?

I suggest you re-read my post again.

 

[Zibago]

Can you give me one example of any mainstream religion ( Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Zoroastrianism etc ) or any secular society that finds "killing innocent people acceptable"?

Then do you want to explain why Muslims are not being killed like dogs in UK ( Dar al Harb ) and why Muslims are being killed like rats in Pakistan ( Dar al Islam ) ?

Bhai fatwa lagwana hay kufar ka

@Azad-Kashmiri is the new @Zarvan

Im living in Europe and you are wrong.

Ignore him he is an indian