Muslim U.S. Students Convicted Of Disrupting Speech

[muse]

Because they are Muslims. Muslims are allowed to protest against what they consider to be fascist preaching or aren't they?

And therefore the rest who disagree that freedom of speech does not mean that you infringe on the rights of others, are not really muslim, are we?

 

[ashokdeiva]

[/B]

What are dumbass retard you are ! Oh wait..you are are bharti Never mind..

Ask your mom if she had "coitus" before marriage? Was she allowed? You dumbo...Are "Christians" or "Jews" allowed to have coitus before marriage? I guess not . . .

Do not bring in family members to the discussion, its unparlimentary. post reported

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Because they are Muslims. Muslims are allowed to protest against what they consider to be fascist preaching or aren't they?

The ambasdor came for a seminar on a different topic and he was not there to discus the Isreal - Palestine relationsship. So its not wise to behave so

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A slight correction, it's given by the UNO not uSa.

In their country they give it you the freedom of speach

 

[muse]

Fundamental problem with some of our pakistani posters is that they do not understand the rules of the game -- the parrot "freedom of speech" as if it was an absolute right, without any responsibility -- and of course when they fail to persuade, they resort to mothers and sisters and then cry when others do the same to them - lets see if mods understand this or maybe they prefer that we handle these kinds of things ourselves ?

 

[Aktavist_KKWC]

And therefore the rest who disagree that freedom of speech does not mean that you infringe on the rights of others, are not really muslim, are we?

Who suggested this?

The point is they are Muslim and they felt it's was wrong for fascist ideology to appear in the university. They did what they felt was right. If Nazi's did the same at the time Jews were being persecuted in Germany, Jewish students would have done the same and be supported.

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The ambasdor came for a seminar on a different topic and he was not there to discus the Isreal - Palestine relationsship. So its not wise to behave so

He was the ambassador of Israel who was allowed to speak the univeristy, that's what the protest was about not what the topic was.

 

[muse]

Aktavist - No one is denying the right to protest - it's how one goes about protesting that is in question - I hope you see the distinctions

 

[Aktavist_KKWC]

Aktavist - No one is denying the right to protest - it's how one goes about protesting that is in question - I hope you see the distinctions

They felt this was the best course of action, you don't. Maybe if Israel took notice about how people are angry about their occupation then things may have been different but instead they put out the myth of them being the victims while continuing to steal land.

 

[muse]

They felt this was the best course of action, you don't. Maybe if Israel took notice about how people are angry about their occupation then things may have been different but instead they put out the myth of them being the victims while continuing to steal land.

This is stuff really about "feeling"?? And Israel it seems clear does care and makes a great effort in the international media to come across as the reasonable -- whereas the so called "muslim" also take every opportunity to come across as rabid and frothing at the mouth - you decide which is the better course to win the opportunity to present their case and be heard.

It's to time to think more and feel less. If you wish to be successful in persuading people to give your point of view a fair hearing - israelis have been doing this for a long while and you and others shoild ask yourselves why the point of view you seek to highlight, does not get a fair hearing.

Israel is certainly in the wrong in it's dealing in the West bank and Gaza , do you really think that the best way to highlight this is to suggest that those who want to highlight these israeli shortcomings should be seen as those who would deny others fundamental rights??

Protest and political agitation is mothers milk in a Democracy, but there is smart protest and dumb protest, there is protest that makes people think and there is protest that just turns people off

 

[agentny17]

Already Looked. lovely Mocha color .How is the job at 7/11 coming along?

Well, i am happy for you. Your mom must be so proud of you .... Job is great, thanks for asking!!

 

[Aktavist_KKWC]

This is stuff really about "feeling"?? And Israel it seems clear does care and makes a great effort in the international media to come across as the reasonable -- whereas the so called "muslim" also take every opportunity to come across as rabid and frothing at the mouth - you decide which is the better course to win the opportunity to present their case and be heard.

Israel using deception and lies. It is certainly better to speak the truth especially for a Muslim. Deception might be a better tactic but is morally worse.

It's to time to think more and feel less. If you wish to be successful in persuading people to give your point of view a fair hearing - israelis have been doing this for a long while and you and others shoild ask yourselves why the point of view you seek to highlight, does not get a fair hearing.

After the length of this occupation people really shouldn't need to be presuaded. Many are ingorant and highlighting the issue should be the main goal. Once people look into it, those who are not biased will clearly see who is the aggressor here. Israels crimes are as obvious as they can get.

Israel is certainly in the wrong in it's dealing in the West bank and Gaza , do you really think that the best way to highlight this is to suggest that those who want to highlight these israeli shortcomings should be seen as those who would deny others fundamental rights??

Protest and political agitation is mothers milk in a Democracy, but there is smart protest and dumb protest, there is protest that makes people think and there is protest that just turns people off

The protest was not about some dairy product which is debated as to whether it's good for children but about highlighting Israel, that's what it did so it succeeded.

 

[RazPaK]

Wow muse and superkaif. I would have expected better from you guys. After watching the video did you see those charged saying we are muslims or rather we are representing muslims or did the media label them that as such? Take a look at it again.

 

[jdme]

Indians on this forum seem to have a tendency to always lick western boots. Must be the trauma from the Colonial days.

And some shameless Pakistani go all the way and live in US?

 

[muse]

Well, when they get the same kind of pay back, lets see how they will respond - I'm no supporter of Israeli policies but that is a big difference between not supporting Israeli policies and denying their ambassador the opportunity to speak to peoople who were there in their hundreds to hear him -- Was this a victory, to some it was, the ambassador was prevented from speaking, hundreds of people who wanted to hear him were deprived of their right to do so

 

[RazPaK]

And some shameless Pakistani go all the way and live in US?

What does living in the United States have to do with following Western Totalitarian foreign policies? Truly, you are shameless for claiming to be Indian, then residing in the United States(democratic countries), while disregarding views of the citizens of these countries. I am both a citizen of US and Pakistan.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I think its odd because white , christian mostly demonstrators have also interrupter speeches and this nonsense of disrupting is a bit awkward , as its right of anyone to speak out against anyone

 

[Aktavist_KKWC]

And some shameless Pakistani go all the way and live in US?

Living in a nation doesn't mean you support their policies. If you have the rights and power to make a stand or change you should do so.