Muslim preacher of hate is let into Britain

[Molawchai]

Muslim preacher of hate is let into Britain - Times Online
May 30, 2010

Zakir Naik says the 9/11 attacks were an 'inside job' by the US


THE home secretary, Theresa May, is facing a stiff test of the Conservative party’s claims to oppose radical Islam after her officials chose to allow a misogynist Muslim preacher into Britain.

Zakir Naik, an Indian televangelist described as a “hate-monger” by moderate Muslims and one Tory MP, says western women make themselves “more susceptible to rape” by wearing revealing clothing.

Naik, who proselytises on Peace TV, a satellite television channel, is reported to have called for the execution of Muslims who change their faith, described Americans as “pigs” and said that “every Muslim should be a terrorist”.

In a recent lecture, he said he was “with” Osama Bin Laden over the attacks on “terrorist America”, adding that the 9/11 hijackings were an inside job by President George W Bush.

In opposition, David Cameron and other senior Tories led criticism of the Labour government for allowing radical preachers into Britain to stir up hatred on lecture tours. While in opposition, Cameron also campaigned to get Yusuf al-Qaradawi, an Egyptian radical, banned from Britain.

Cameron and May now face a political test over Naik, whose inflammatory comments have led some moderate Muslims to call him a “truth-twister”.

One well-placed insider said: “Zakir Naik is a nasty man who makes al-Qaradawi look like a participant at a teddy bears’ picnic. He shouldn’t be allowed into the country to stir up hatred.”

The Home Office indicated that it was not planning to ban Naik, however.

Although Naik makes it clear he does not support specific acts of terrorism, his inflammatory speeches have included one, currently on YouTube, in which he states: “Beware of Muslims saying Osama Bin Laden is right or wrong. I reject them ... we don’t know.

“But if you ask my view, if given the truth, if he is fighting the enemies of Islam, I am for him.

 

[forcetrip]

It is impossible to teach people common sense. I would have tried if I though you were school kids still loosing your lunch boxes. But you are grown *** men agreeing with the rubbish this man is sprewing.

 

[Awesome]

He mis-speaks from time to time, even though he may seem proficient in English, his choice of words are poor. But I seriously think calling him a preacher of hate is like someone over-stretching the truth a whoooole lot.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

That guy is educated , secular man please refrain from abuse a educated man who provides education to alot of misguided souls

#1 Its his right to practice freedom of opinion of what forces controlled the events in
past 10 year ago or so , there is actually a US movie maker that also got some
award for his documentary stating the same ideas.

Reference:
Michael Moore's - Farenhiet911 just because a muslim man addresses the same ideas does not makes him a hate monger

#2 Statement about women who dress (barely) I mean its common sense all police officers will tell you if you are women and walking dark allies or city streets in night do not show alot of skin you might attract wrong ppl to you ...

Reference: Police Advices women to be careful at night at streets
http://www.thisisbath.co.uk/news/Wa...n-walkers/article-2115061-detail/article.html

Advices women to be with someone at night never walk alone (if the same statement was by a muslim person obviously it would be twisted to be called mad man's opinion)
Get your logic stright

 

[forcetrip]

This guy makes up his own facts and irrational nonsense .. Being educated is one thing .. he for sure is not secular. I would say wahabi instead.

 

[fhassan]

Although I disagree with a few of his views, he is not a preacher of hate and to label him as such is ridiculous.

He holds several interfaith talks, and preaches against any form of terrorism - on BOTH sides. The Non-Muslims wish to portray Islamic speakers such as him as extreme and are actively promoting other individuals who are no more than puppets - Taj Hargey being a prime example here in the UK.

For crying out loud, even Shaykh Hamzah Yusuf was labelled as an extremist by American news agencies.....They are not going to leave anyone alone, don't you understand?

We should stick up for one-another.....set the small differences aside....

 

[WAQAS119]

I disagree with Heading of this thread.........

MODs are requested to change Title..

 

[EjazR]

Well I really do hope that Zakir Naik gets out of this habit of taking a neutral stance on the 9/11 attacks. OBL if not directly involved (which is a fact, OBL was NOT directly involved) has condoned them and that is wrong. That should be enough to condemn it.

But preacher of hate is certainly a stretch of the imagination. He has been to UK umpteen number of times since the 80s, why is it making news now?

What I would hope is Britishers attend his lecture in large numbers and find out for themselves if he preaches hate. That would be the best answer

 

[EjazR]

T.... he for sure is not secular. I would say wahabi instead.

sorry you are hardly making any sense here. What are you even trying to compare here?

Salafi/Wahabi is a school of thought like Hanafi, Shafii e.t.c. While secularism is a form of governance where all religions are given equal status in the eyes of the state. Or you may say that worldly pursuits are deemed important as well as religious pursuits. This definition is used mostly in the India/US/UK e.t.c. This is IMO the preferred meaning.

Other definitions for secularism results in complete negation of religion or even oppression of it like in France or the former USSR.

IF you follow the first definition of secularism, then almost any Islamic school of thought including salafis will agree that being a secular is inherent.

How about checking out this lecture so that you can clear you confusion. Its in 17 parts if you have the time, but the first 10 mins should clarify the theme of his lecture

 

[kugga]

although I don't agree with some of his points but I believe he's doing a great job..... Keep it zakir bhai...

 

[kugga]

sorry you are hardly making any sense here. What are you even trying to compare here?

Salafi/Wahabi is a school of thought like Hanafi, Shafii e.t.c. While secularism is a form of governance where all religions are given equal status in the eyes of the state. Or you may say that worldly pursuits are deemed important as well as religious pursuits. This definition is used mostly in the India/US/UK e.t.c. This is IMO the preferred meaning.

Other definitions for secularism results in complete negation of religion or even oppression of it like in France or the former USSR.

IF you follow the first definition of secularism, then almost any Islamic school of thought including salafis will agree that being a secular is inherent.

How about checking out this lecture so that you can clear you confusion. Its in 17 parts if you have the time, but the first 10 mins should clarify the theme of his lecture

YouTube - Islam & Secularism 1/17

The definition he's giving of secularism is not the secularism in the world..... secularism does not allow a religion to be part of a state it simply means state has no religion and he has not mentioned any such thing...

 

[EjazR]

^^^
The way I have defined Secularism is what is held in India/US/UK/Australia and this is the way I believe it should be held. Basically that in the eyes of the state, people of all religious communities are equal even in matters of practicing their religious duties, and this applies even in a Muslim state.

 

[Jazzbot]

Preacher of hate = Zakir Naik

 

[kugga]

^^^
The way I have defined Secularism is what is held in India/US/UK/Australia and this is the way I believe it should be held. Basically that in the eyes of the state, people of all religious communities are equal even in matters of practicing their religious duties, and this applies even in a Muslim state.

Islam says that people of all religious communities are equal but not identical..... different communities have different rights but all does not have same identical rights.....
I will not point out errors in the states but if that is secularism what you mentioned is held in US/UK/AUS and India then Islam does not allow such secularism.....

 

[samv]

Zakir Naik was in Sri Lanka just last week...