Muslim In Awadh Will Not Do Qurbani On Eid, They Will Cut A Goat Shaped Cake Instead

[SarthakGanguly]

I would agree if I saw Muslims and Christians insulting Hinduism here before Manu started. Didn't see that so the comment.

Not talking about the thread. This is a general trend. Giving respect is worthwhile only when you know you can get some back. That said, you are free to stick to your ideals, they are indeed holy and I appreciate them. I just prefer not to follow them.

 

[Loafer]

Absolutely idiotic move from Indian Muslims.

Now they will face Allahs wrath soon.

 

[Anubis]

Why the halal way of killing the animal so cruel ?Celebration of an animal bleeding to death is no civilised behavior and should be condemned. It is barbaric.

Killing a living being is cruel anyway...it is hypocritical to act holier then thou when it comes to killing animals in any way...we are omnivores...we eat meat....we must kill animals to eat them...the moral scale of human civilization does not and will not depend on its treatment of cows....besides bleeding any animal out is slightly healthier.

 

[Zibago]

Terey wastey meri eid ghulamana meri eid ghulamana

 

[hussain0216]

Why the halal way of killing the animal so cruel ?Celebration of an animal bleeding to death is no civilised behavior and should be condemned. It is barbaric.

We are omnivores we eat meat

Being daal khores is not an option

We sacraficed two cows this eid, to eat ourselves and distribute to the poor

 

[Jamwal's]

Lol

 

[friendly_troll96]

Indian 'muslims'!

 

[SarthakGanguly]

we must kill animals to eat them...the moral scale of human civilization does not and will not depend on its treatment of cows....besides bleeding any animal out is slightly healthier.

Dr. Lecter is proud of you.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

when Pakistan got independence BD was part of it, so double Muslim population got rid of bharat.. And thats why Muslim league won all Muslim seats..

2nd where from you speaking about birth rate, plz look at 1951' cenus data of Pakistan and Bharat before blabbering..

In 1951 census, Pakistan had population of 75 million in which 12% were hindus,

india had 35 million Muslims... And the ratio is same even today.. Except hindu are decreasing in Bangladesh.

And they dont migrate to Pakistan and Bangladesh bcoz both govt dont issue statements that Muslims will be awarded citizenship like you do with our hindus.. There was a video i watched in which few Pakistani hindu reached india on train, the time they set foot outside train, hindu journalists start asking them, do u want citizenship, we can help you.. Do you feel difficulties in Pakistan? Pakistani aunty said, no we dont have any problem..


Anyways in entire history of Pakistan, there is no genocide against hindus, like it happened with bharti Muslims in gujrat, mumbai roits etc..

Sorry buddy not a single decent explanation there. Equation is pretty simple and you haven't provided a single logical response.

Post partition- Most Indian Muslims didn't migrate to Pakistan/BD.

Post-partition- Most Pakistani Hindus and Sikhs migrated to India.

Today- No Indian Muslims migrating to Pakistan/BD despite being made for all of sub-continent's Muslims.

Today - Pakistani Hindus and Sikhs still migrating to India.

Shows the situation of the minorities in both countries.

As for genocide, you throw the word around without even knowing it's meaning. They were riots in which hundreds of Hindus were also killed. Deplorable incidents have happened in India, I agree but the average daily life of the average Muslim in India isn't how you were trying to portray. That's all my point is.

 

[AKD]

Good

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Is it just Muslims who eat cows?

This is not the point. In that case you can argue "India is largest beef exporter"
The point is Muslims in south Asia sacrifices cow for just to hurt Hindu sentiments. Look at the Arab world ,they sacrifices camel or goat only. And i think it hasn't wrriten in Quran also to sacrifice cow specially. Then why south Asia's Muslims prefers to sacrifice Cow?
And this brutality started from Mugal era to hurt Hinduism, not from Muhammad Prophet. So you South Asian Muslims are following Mugal brutality , not Prophet.
BTW I'm against brutality on any animal or birds , not specially cow.

 

[untitled]

From what Muslims in other parts of the country have said, it was one of your leading prophets (I guess it was the prophet Abraham or Ishmael.. don't remember) who was asked by god to sacrifice his son as an example to prove infinite devotion to god. When he passed his test of ultimate devotion to god, god replaced his son with the goat and the goat was sacrificed instead.


You have got most of the story right but have arrived at the completely wrong conclusion. I don't blame you because even many Muslims don't get it right either.

The prophet in question was Abraham (AS). He was issueless. So when Ismail was born he was overjoyed. To test his faith Allah ordered him to sacrifice him to see what he loved the most. This son in Christian/Jewish traditions is said to be Isaac (who was the father of Jacob / Israel (AS)). So when he decided to sacrifice Ismael AS Allah had already accepted his act because of his intentions. Their Allah stopped him and ordered him to sacrifice a sheep/goat instead.

The story is a reminder to muslims (and other Abrahmic religons) that should be ready to sacrifice anything in the name of Allah especially if they hold that particular thing very dear. If they do so they will get a even better reward. The luxuries and provisions of this life are temporary. One should constantly strive to seek the pleasure of Allah even it means he as to let go of things he holds dear.

And how did Allah reward Abrahim AS for this act? He was made a father of nations. A once issueless person is made a spiritual father of three of the worlds major religions.

This sacrifice of an animal is actually a reencatment of Hazrat Abraham's own sacrifice and an annual reminder to all muslims that they too should be ready if the time comes

Where does that tell you that god would order the killing of a goat?

So is Diwali all about lighting candles and fireworks? How many people care to think that Divali is actually a celebration of light over darkness?

 

[Anubis]

Dr. Lecter is proud of you.

A) I do not identify as a cow
More importantly...
B)I don't accept a Cow as a superior being(Deity)

Hannibal Lecter was a cannibal...I am just a human being maintaining my diet that I am "designed" to maintain because of evolution.

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

I read your post all of it and got it. You did not get my post.

OK I will try to explain

It is said meat of a healthy and happy animal tastes better than a sick and stressed animal.
Keeping the sacrificial animal happy and loved is probably one of the reasons so it does not get stressed.

Secondly I asked you about the chickens. The reason behind it was some people believe that chickens raised on a open farm taste much better and are healthier to eat as compared mass slaughtered caged farm chickens. That is because open farm chickens live in a relatively stress free environment

Okay but the idea of treating an animal like family and feeding it then killing it and eating it just so that it tastes better is not right to me. Thinking from the animal's POV, one feels bad. The animal probably thinks he has got a family that takes care of him and loves him and then suddenly - KHATTAK ! - gone. Anyway it's religion. Let's not discuss further.

Not talking about the thread. This is a general trend. Giving respect is worthwhile only when you know you can get some back. That said, you are free to stick to your ideals, they are indeed holy and I appreciate them. I just prefer not to follow them.

To be honest, I have insulted Muslims quite openly here when I was earlier here as a member years ago when they used to insult our religion and got banned numerous times .

Now it just seems wrong because I feel that we must not start the insulting, responding in kind is another thing altogether. All Muslims and particularly Christians aren't bad, in my experience. There are many who respect our religion.

 

[Anubis]

This is not the point. In that case you can argue "India is largest beef exporter"
The point is Muslims in south Asia sacrifices cow for just to hurt Hindu sentiments. Look at the Arab world ,they sacrifices camel or goat only. And i think it hasn't wrriten in Quran also to sacrifice cow specially. Then why south Asia's Muslims prefers to sacrifice Cow?
And this brutality started from Mugal era to hurt Hinduism, not from Muhammad Prophet. So you South Asian Muslims are following Mugal brutality , not Prophet.
BTW I'm against brutality on any animal or birds , not specially cow.

Arabs sacrifice animals that are most common to their region...South Asians sacrifice animals that are more common to their region....it is your bad luck that your deity just happens to be one of the most consumed food around the world...being an ex-Muslim I can assure you Hindu sentiments are the last things Muslims have to worry about in carrying out their superstitious rituals....so to make sure every one feels better about their superstition either you pay for Camels to be brought to South Asia in ship loads for the Muslims to sacrifice....or you stop worshiping cows and move to something that people don't eat...lions or tigers maybe.