Chakar The Great
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Hahahah indian talking about women empowerment?????
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its seems, now u have taken a trip to another universeCaste is relevant only during marriages for pretty much all communities in India. lol.
Democracy give me the right and Duty to speak up for what I believe is right.
Even if I don't like something I will say it..;Otherwise your logic "could" be applied to anything...
So if a Terro strike somewhere... And let's say ppl around don't care / found it normal...Will you shut up?
See, you may see it "radical" / "Extreme" , then you are right...since your thinking is extrem... Black and White don't exist...
Aka "Let's make money whatever the cost, Because need their adrenaline rush"...
Doesn't that contradict your initial opinion, that you wrote int he the next sentence...
Look up for your previous sentence.
And no..; Ppl doesn't apply justice... We are judge for that... Mobs don't think...They Act in sheep mod for X reasons. Otherwise Most of Humans Nowadays wouldn't exist..;If the guy next door can "apply" on me what he feel right or wrong...
And no Democracy doesn't work like that...
They do... What are you even saying... Then If I see you "allegedly" touching a woman..;I have the right to impose my justice on you? So What happen when in this end it's accidental or it's your wife? Are you gonna ask for "rightful justice"?
Then sell it to me... Since I may be interested in this "allegedly sells of you"...
Of course it doesn't mean anything... COuld even be something else than "sexual"...
Could be a boken mistress who did like how he used her...and make her tears flow to the group...and since mobs are irrational, then things like that" could" happen...
There is under of meaning you can get out of a vid... Just that same vid, cut the sound a show it to your family or friends or foreigners and ask them "What does that vid is about?" and enjoy "their truth"...
Same goes with those Beef incident..."allegedly eating/selling" and in the End, they End up dead by the Mod...and Justice in it? Truth in It? All we care, I can also indirectly kill someone by accusing him of eating/killing a cow...and Voila..;The mob will play the part...
Nobody has a problem with you speaking up, but they are certainly going to judge you based on what you say.
You cannot be selective about democracy and freedom. As long as its within the parameters of the Law, all you can do is switch channel, not blow up bombs.
Mob action is very different from Vigilante justice.
Sometimes they overlap when justice is seen as being denied. Then Vigilante justice takes over. That is better than No justice.
And yes, Decomoracy does work like that. You don't like a Law ? Brute majority can change that law.
E.g. Making "Blasphemy' a crime punishable by stringent punishment including stoning to death.
Errr ... if you are going to put your hand on my wife and if you think I am going to wait for the police of the court to set things right, you must be really stupid.
I will probably punch you in the nose.
And yes, that goes for most people who stand up for themselves and for the people the love or care about.
So if a group of nurses have got convinced that the said doctor was guilty of sexual harassment, it is probably because he has a history of acting that way with other nurses till tings came to this pass. I think most reasonably smart humans understand this. GO ask your wife or your girl friend.
You can cry all you want for that muslim molester, but I doubt you will receive any sympathy from Indians or women for that matter.
As for your idea of selective hearing or selective vision, we just call it LIES, not "truth".
its seems, now u have taken a trip to another universe
Caste is relevant only during marriages for pretty much all communities in India. lol.
Mob action and Vigilante Justice are the same...Both act upon "emotions" of what they think is right... They are irrational... Thinking they are doing "good"...
As for the Wife exemple...Re-read it, I was putting you in the place of that "alleged" molester... Since that's how Mobs sees it...From outside... So if I see you "allegedly" touching a woman...May I beat you? Without searching if you did it on purpose or is that woman your Wife/Girlfriend?
That groupe of "nurses" is only a group... YOu know nothing of it... Wasn't what you said in your previous post about " innocent till proven guilty"??? See... That when Emotion comes in... Rationality leaves you...
I encountered Doctors who raped/killed... Being "educated" doesn't give you free reign of what is right or wrong...
No justice is better than "Wrong justice"... Since you are putting yourself out of the equation, so ofc it's easy for you to say so... But what happen if it's you who is getting that "wrongful" justice or your loved one? I'm pretty sure... You wouldn't like it...
And last... I don't care about his well being IF indeed is one... You can stone him/hang him/give him to the dogs, if that's all I care... IF is proven guilty till then... He's innocent...
As for the Cow part... No need to play that card with me... You know yourself that abuse exist... so no need to deny it to prove yourself right or "think" that i will be shivered by your allegations...
And since your sneaky bringing "Islam or at least his culture in it" with the Blasphemy thingy and stoning thingy...
We don't kill those who eat pork or any animal of this planet...
WAIT WHAT???????
Nope they are not.
Mobs can riot without any specific reason like when a foot ball match is lost.
Vigilante action is when people take it upon themselves to correct a wrong done due to miscarriage of justice.
Vigilante justice is not "irrational" it's only extreme.
Food ball crowd rioting is irrational.
only if you are stupid enough to think that people are stupid or Malicious and is looking to beat up others for no reason.
Maybe where you stay such things might be common, not in India and I am only talking about India.
Innocent until proven guilty is for the courts and for the State apparatus and the system.
But when you see a thug attacking someone or a man molesting a girl / kid, then you do not wait for the court to prove him "guilty", you take action based on whatever information you have.
THAT is Rational, NOT acting is irrational and is called Cowardice.
WRONG.
Some justice is better than No justice, unless one happens to live in a perfect world where everything works as its supposed to work.
Considering India is a LONG way from being perfect w.r.t the govt. reach and efficiency, Vigilante justice works just fine, especially social action like boycotts etc.
If someone is getting wrongful justice, one can always appeal to the same mob or society for a remedy once the initial heat has worn off. That is why India has panchayats operating in most parts. or in case of cities, there are Unions and other social groups.
I would rather trust the judgement of the mob of nurses than the words of a molesting doctor. Its a no brainer.
So far almost all cow lynching that have taken place have been of criminals and I am convinced of it and that is all that matters. I do not need to convince you of anything.
You do kill those who eat humans on this planet and for Hindus , cows have as much rights as Humans.
Only a fool would compare such a thing with killing of a pig or a dog.
LOL.... I forgot, you are the "expert" on Hindus and Indians, right ?
See... Truth or facts doesn't matter for you...
So... I will leave it to you... and your "judgement"... I Will Just hope that you will not regret it one day when you are in their situation or taking part in those events...
You told me, that ppl will judge me on what I wrote and you are right... But in our case... You are the one who will be judge for your inability to maintain yourself during this exchange... Just wanted to point it out for your future "debates", try to keep your emotions inside and think rationally, I understand it's hard... But it's needed for a better future...
At First you seems "rational" But more we dug into the emotional aspect of the subject, more you lost it...Doesn't mean it's wrong...but irrationality isn't the best friend of "justice" neither " of Others eyes".
In the End, Let's agree to disagree.
Ps: Please Don't beat the next guy you see after an "alleged suspicion" or "Cow killer" Keep yourself out of those types of Irrational ppl... At least I did my duty to inform you... No regrets in my part.
Cya.
pity the empowered hindu woman couldn't do anything against Cops son
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they do while renting houses. not all, but some of them.Sure, in north India one always enquires about dalit status of people when they go to restaurants to eat, or go to a barber or go to a supermarket or hire a cab or go to a doctor or get an education
That is your claim, right ?
they do while renting houses. not all, but some of them.
in NE of india it is unthinkable.
It is absurd to bring the man's religion into this, on the other hand more power to the sisters.