Musharraf threatened USA about DRONE attacks ---Wikileaks

[Slayer786]

General Musharraf had become a thorn in the side of USA and it got rid of him by financing the lawyer's movement and getting Zardari elected. For all we know, it could have been the CIA operatives who killed Benazir and after that PPP got the sympathy votes and won the elections. So with the General out of the way, both the USA and the TTP played havoc with Pakistan. USA using drones to only kill the taliban which were creating problems for it in Afghanistan(namely Haqqani network), but hardly any drones have killed any TTP leaders and infact the Pakistan govt had accused the Afghans of sheltering them. The General was always preessuring the US to target TTP leaders but there was no cooperation. Many times he warned the Afghans not to give shelter to the enemies of Pakistan but was ignored. And the news media only highlighted the part where Pakistan was not cooperating fully with USA in fighting the Afghan taliban.
It is a game of cat and mouse and very complicated. It is naive of people just to blame the General without knowing what's going on. But it is so easy to brainwash the masses by the media and this tool has been used effectively against the General.
Now some have accused the media of getting millions of funds from abroad, maybe it is true or maybe it is false but people should research and investigate before forming opinions on topics they know very little about.

 

[Sedqal]

astonishing is the fact that if wiki has said same thing about anyother leader of pakistan, his supporters would be jumping & thumping this news for thier prapoganda, mohims?
but when it was said, for a leader who , was leading this country in the wrost of its situations, he is just gets denied because of stupid hate, in side foolish brains?

Mushy was the last dictator batman jee, there won't ever be another one now. Musharraf's sin of overthrowing a legitimate. elected Govt will never be forgiven.

 

[batmannow]

Mushy was the last dictator batman jee, there won't ever be another one now. Musharraf's sin of overthrowing a legitimate. elected Govt will never be forgiven.

there was no sin, in throwing a selected govt on fake votes, which was involved in an greater sin like attacking SC of the country, beating judges?
thats why, when that govt was kicked out, it got the full legal backing of thn SC?
now are you getting any noora whahi,s, from barey mian jee?
thts there wouldnt be any more dictator?
just look what happened in egypt & thn ask this yourself? ayaa ki hoya babu jee?lol

 

[BATMAN]

Mushy was the last dictator batman jee, there won't ever be another one now. Musharraf's sin of overthrowing a legitimate. elected Govt will never be forgiven.

How about sins like hijacking plane and eventually... planning to crash it, while CoAS was on board!

If you were born in 1999... you should have known, that N.Sharif regime came to end...... in a sequence of events initiated by non other than N.Sharif. while PM was still in air.

PM landed in a Pakistan, where N.Sharif was not premier any more.

 

[livingdead]

Did he not say in his book, he complied because Bush threatened him that pakistan will be bombed to stone age?

 

[batmannow]

Did he not say in his book, he complied because Bush threatened him that pakistan will be bombed to stone age?

he described that, as the rudest comments which he didnt liked?
he replied to them by, pakistan is ready to be a partnerr in the war on terror, bt not because of these rude coments?
astonishing is, " indians reading his book, IN THE LINE OF FIRE

dont miss-quote him!
undrstand the whole story behind it?
there were other reasons for that?
the time was when as per plan, indian armed forces stromed to boders & were in eye ball contact with Pakforces, he didnt went to challenge the white elephent? cleverly?
cause there wasnt was any direct conflict between USA & PAKISTAN, at that time?
the question was " are you with us against terror or against US" as a responsible head of state, of one & only nucklear islamic responsible state in the world he decided well instead , giving up to terrorists?

 

[SQ8]

Please find the wikileaks where this said threat is laid bare?
WikiLeaks
http://x.dawn.com/tag/wikileaks-pakistan/
Ive looked at all links with Pakistan referred in them.. nothing of this sort.

There is this though.
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/11/world/asia/pakistan-musharraf-drones

 

[batmannow]

Please find the wikileaks where this said threat is laid bare?
WikiLeaks
wikileaks pakistan | DAWN.COM
Ive looked at all links with Pakistan referred in them.. nothing of this sort.

There is this though.
Ex-Pakistani leader admits secret deal with U.S. on drone strikes - CNN.com

only on a few occasions, when a target was absolutely isolated and no chance of collateral damage."
guss was taken out by dawn, themselves because it will shine militry & musharaf?
not in the long term intersts of the croupt prostitute kind of pakistani media & croupt politicians?
by which time Musharraf had been president for five years after taking power in a bloodless coup.
He said that Pakistani leaders would OK U.S. drone strikes after discussions involving military and intelligence units and only if "there was no time for our own ... military to act."
This happened "only rarely," said Musharraf, who left office in 2008 and spent years in exile before returning to Pakistan last month to launch a political comeback. But sometimes, he said, "you couldn't delay action."
"These ups and downs kept going," he said. "It was a very fluid situation, a vicious enemy, ... mountains, inaccessible areas."
consider wht was then, & now & whats good in the national intersts?
fighting war on terror or crying fool to drones which just there to hit, the terrorists?
who are in control of, half of the country?
from karachi to islamabad! from gilgit to DI khan?

 

[SQ8]

only on a few occasions, when a target was absolutely isolated and no chance of collateral damage."
guss was taken out by dawn, themselves because it will shine militry & musharaf?
not in the long term intersts of the croupt prostitute kind of pakistani media & croupt politicians?
by which time Musharraf had been president for five years after taking power in a bloodless coup.
He said that Pakistani leaders would OK U.S. drone strikes after discussions involving military and intelligence units and only if "there was no time for our own ... military to act."
This happened "only rarely," said Musharraf, who left office in 2008 and spent years in exile before returning to Pakistan last month to launch a political comeback. But sometimes, he said, "you couldn't delay action."
"These ups and downs kept going," he said. "It was a very fluid situation, a vicious enemy, ... mountains, inaccessible areas."
consider wht was then, & now & whats good in the national intersts?
fighting war on terror or crying fool to drones which just there to hit, the terrorists?
who are in control of, half of the country?
from karachi to islamabad! from gilgit to DI khan?

Where are the wikileaks that show Musharraf saying that he will shoot down drones? That is what I am asking...stop shooting tangents on media. Look at wikileaks , and find me the wikileak that says so if it is out there.

 

[batmannow]

Where are the wikileaks that show Musharraf saying that he will shoot down drones? That is what I am asking...stop shooting tangents on media. Look at wikileaks , and find me the wikileak that says so if it is out there.

once leaks are out very next moment, they were sent to different CIA desks, where they gets thier editions?
so its like, a breakfast how soon you eat it, its better cause no body gona wait for you?
they ill eat it all, once appears on dawn , it was gone?
now the only way , i guss is to ask directly to leaks?
other thn that, its just vanished, doesnt suits many power structures, ^ vasted intersts?

 

[SQ8]

once leaks are out very next moment, they were sent to different CIA desks, where they gets thier editions?
so its like, a breakfast how soon you eat it, its better cause no body gona wait for you?
they ill eat it all, once appears on dawn , it was gone?
now the only way , i guss is to ask directly to leaks?
other thn that, its just vanished, doesnt suits many power structures, ^ vasted intersts?

You really need to work on your grammar and I mean it in a very professional context as it will help you elsewhere. Because It takes a while to get your posts and their messed up tenses.
Now, you may blame vested interests and all that but I have read the early leaks and many of them are still around. Yet, I do not remember seeing any defiant statement by Musharraf. Till, you can find the said leak there is no point in discussing this. I disagree with you, you may disagree with me.

 

[SQ8]

Here, these are all the cables that are out.
NONE have been removed or anything..search away.
Cablegate's cables: Full-text search everything

 

[oFFbEAT]

It looks like, the heading should have been "USA threatened Musharraf about DRONE attacks"........

 

[batmannow]

You really need to work on your grammar and I mean it in a very professional context as it will help you elsewhere. Because It takes a while to get your posts and their messed up tenses.
Now, you may blame vested interests and all that but I have read the early leaks and many of them are still around. Yet, I do not remember seeing any defiant statement by Musharraf. Till, you can find the said leak there is no point in discussing this. I disagree with you, you may disagree with me.

thanks for inspiring me to your level of master lord english?lol
no its better to be in field & keep doing wht, i can do best?
words, grammers, languages doesnt matter in this, world of ipads?
its still a mind behind a book or a pen or even a trigger which you with your over educated mind will never going to change, hope you start geting it striaght enough , now dont just get angry!
can you write to wikkies? & can you get any answers from them about this band deal?
lets see how far, your education & english grammer can takes us, & can let us know , what it was?

It looks like, the heading should have been "USA threatened Musharraf about DRONE attacks"........

ohh thanks genious!
thanks you didnt mentioned it. like vajpai jee threatened drones?lol

 

[SQ8]

thanks for inspiring me to your level of master lord english?lol
no its better to be in field & keep doing wht, i can do best?
words, grammers, languages doesnt matter in this, world of ipads?
its still a mind behind a book or a pen or even a trigger which you with your over educated mind will never going to change, hope you start geting it striaght enough , now dont just get angry!
can you write to wikkies? & can you get any answers from them about this band deal?
lets see how far, your education & english grammer can takes us, & can let us know , what it was?

So basically , you arent ready to make the effort and would rather hide behind cheap shots and pathetic rants. Hence, I should endeavour to make sure that you are banned from threads unless you mend your ways and focus on the question rather than a miserable little girl who cant find an intelligent brain cell to come up with a decent reply.

So be it, every other post of yours.. if it is not up to the mark, if you are not giving correct and proper replies without resorting to name calling or derailment.. I will ban you from those threads first thing without a care..and I havent even begun to be upset.
For starters, from here. We will discuss your beloved Musharraf while you will sit on the sidelines and smash your.. what is that? Ipad.

Did he not say in his book, he complied because Bush threatened him that pakistan will be bombed to stone age?

Yes he did, he also claims to have wargamed the US and then decided that it was not going to work out for them.
However, his unilateral decision making had him compromising on certain fundamentals where he could have stuck his neck out and bargained better.

Still, I have been trying to do a search of the wikileaks cables for the said claim and have yet to find anything that comes near to the video's claim.