Musharraf apology to Bangladesh

[war&peace]

It's sad to see that even common Pakistani folks don't feel ashamed of their army's past misdoings. Where is the humanity? Can't believe some people r making fun of killing and raping of millions of civilians. U will have to answer to ur god for such shambolic behaviour.

We would have mate, if our army did so...Why can't you think logically and grow above the wrong history fed to you guys by anti-Pakistan Indian and Bangladeshi media...Of course we are against the killing of any innocent person by our army and rape we cannot even think of. Bengali people were our own and still today we harbour no animosity towards...An average Pakistani is either positive or indifferent towards an average Bengali guy.

 

[El Sidd]

I wonder why? If your military and yahyah Bhutto wasn't so power hungry, BD wouldn't have wanted independence. If you yourself like the idea of "Pakistan as one state for all Muslims of British India" then everyone in that one state should have equal rights. When this "one state" decided who would rule the state, west PK denied someone from east getting power. They militarily tried to subdue part of their "one state" and lock up the one who was elected.

Yeah, after all the military rule, Urdu imposition, the last straw was denying eastern part any power that everyone elected. It's good riddance for both of us now anyway. What idiot thinks a country can from with two parts and 2000 km in between. We have nothing in common and no interest in being ruled by your military. Your military can now enjoy their unconditional surrender having ingrained in history forever because they don't like their "own people" since they are eastern.

This paranoia is ingrained in your thinking.

You People have to always play the victim Card whatsoever.

Its just typical.

And you have Zero concept of nationhood just primitive tribal concept.

 

[Imran Khan]

I wonder why? If your military and yahyah Bhutto wasn't so power hungry, BD wouldn't have wanted independence. If you yourself like the idea of "Pakistan as one state for all Muslims of British India" then everyone in that one state should have equal rights. When this "one state" decided who would rule the state, west PK denied someone from east getting power. They militarily tried to subdue part of their "one state" and lock up the one who was elected.

Yeah, after all the military rule, Urdu imposition, the last straw was denying eastern part any power that everyone elected. It's good riddance for both of us now anyway. What idiot thinks a country can from with two parts and 2000 km in between. We have nothing in common and no interest in being ruled by your military. Your military can now enjoy their unconditional surrender having ingrained in history forever because they don't like their "own people" since they are eastern.

i will told you other side of image if mujeeb himself was a honest person he was not killed along with whole family even kids by bengali army

we did this ?

 

[war&peace]

Don't u know that common people of East pak took arms in their hand to protect their own father, mother and children from getting killed and raped by oppressive Pakistani Pakistani force? What will u do if tomorrow someone start doing the same yo ur family.

That's totally wrong..and they were mislead by Mukti Bahni bastards...why don't you listen to Indian general Manek Shaw...
All morality and ethics aside, the Pak army was not even in the numbers to possibly commit such a genocide or rape...Mate we are Muslim and rape and murder are considered the worst crimes...so can you even imagine a professional Muslim like Pak army renowned globally for its professionalism would do such an unIslamic crimes against its own people? Do you know the same propaganda was being fed to Baloch separatist but now they have realised that enemy took them for a ride and most of them have already laid down the arms and embracing the mainstream.

 

[HariPrasad]

Musharraf apology to Bangladesh

By David Blair in Islamabad

12:01AM BST 31 Jul 2002


President Pervaiz Musharraf of Pakistan took a bold step yesterday when he implicitly apologised for the atrocities that scarred Bangladesh's war for independence from his country in 1971.

Gen Musharraf's expression of "regret", the first by a Pakistani military ruler, came during an official visit to Bangladesh.

His words received a mixed response, with the Bangladeshi government welcoming them but the country's opposition denouncing his gesture as inadequate.

Gen Musharraf visited a war memorial at Savar, near the capital, Dhaka, and left a handwritten note in the visitors' book.

"Your brothers and sisters in Pakistan share the pain of the events in 1971," he wrote. "The excesses committed during the unfortunate period are regretted. Let us bury the past in the spirit of magnanimity. Let not the light of the future be dimmed."

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@WebMaster please make it sticky so not more threads ont his issue

Had he had such hearth he would not have killed Benazir and got bukti murdered His appology is a crocodile tear.

 

[bête noire]

i will told you other side of image if mujeeb himself was a honest person he was not killed along with whole family even kids by bengali army

we did this ?

Whoever did this, Mujib deserved it as far as I know. He tried to implement baksal and make himself a dictator. Great past behaviour doesn't justify what you do later. Just because he was great before doesn't mean what he tried to do before he died was great. Corruption was off the roof at the time and then trying to be a dictator. Not sure why BD people feel strongly about him or even you for that matter.

 

[Imran Khan]

Had he had such hearth he would not have killed Benazir and got bukti murdered His appology is a crocodile tear.

did he killed benazeer and bugti ?

Whoever did this, Mujib deserved it as far as I know. He tried to implement baksal and make himself a dictator. Great past behaviour doesn't justify what you do later. Just because he was great before doesn't mean what he tried to do before he died was great. Corruption was off the roof at the time and then trying to be a dictator. Not sure why BD people feel strongly about him or even you for that matter.

same we did with bhutto and co but we did not stay on high ground or play victim card

 

[bête noire]

This paranoia is ingrained in your thinking.

You People have to always play the victim Card whatsoever.

Its just typical.

And you have Zero concept of nationhood just primitive tribal concept.

I have zero interest in the past of war of independence. I was simply addressing what he (the one I quoted) said.

I was born much later, have no connection with war. Both BD and PK has median age around 25 years so the vast VAST majority of BD and PK population are younger than the war. I have nothing against any Pakistani and I would have liked much better relation with PK since thee are virtually zero ways I can see BD and PK ever having any odd ball chance of conflict of interest or anything for that matter.

same we did with bhutto and co but we did not stay on high ground or play victim card

My answer to you is the same as above. Not playing victim card but was a literal reply to what someone said.

 

[El Sidd]

I have zero interest in the past of war of independence. I was simply addressing what he (the one I quoted) said.

I was born much later, have no connection with war. Both BD and PK has median age around 25 years so the vast VAST majority of BD and PK population are younger than the war. I have nothing against any Pakistani and I would have liked much better relation with PK since thee are virtually zero ways I can see BD and PK ever having any odd ball chance of conflict of interest or anything for that matter

A) war of independence happened in 1857
B) your Goodwill nature can Kiss *** as long as you have a bandbangladeshi flag on a defence Forum.
C) not my problem that you cant think beyond the Bay of Bengal.

 

[war&peace]

Whoever did this, Mujib deserved it as far as I know. He tried to implement baksal and make himself a dictator. Great past behaviour doesn't justify what you do later. Just because he was great before doesn't mean what he tried to do before he died was great. Corruption was off the roof at the time and then trying to be a dictator. Not sure why BD people feel strongly about him or even you for that matter.

Mate, it was more malicious than this. He wanted to join India with East Bengal becoming a province or a vassal state of India while he himself was to become Vice President of India, when his generals came to know about his plan, they killed him.
Bangladesh as an independent country is acceptable to us Pakistanis and that's why recognised it. I rather feel that there was poverty and perhaps establishment did not pay fair attention and I feel sad about that but those charges of massacre and rape are false.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Mate, it was more malicious than this. He wanted to join India with East Bengal becoming a province or a vassal state of India while he himself was to become Vice President of India, when his generals came to know about his plan, they killed him.
Bangladesh as an independent country is acceptable to us Pakistanis and that's why recognised it. I rather feel that there was poverty and perhaps establishment did not pay fair attention and I feel sad about that but those charges of massacre and rape are false.

I doubt the Pakistani army would do rape and murder.

We are Muslims and rape and murder are considered to be one of the most horrible crimes in Islam.

 

[Imran Khan]

I have zero interest in the past of war of independence. I was simply addressing what he (the one I quoted) said.

I was born much later, have no connection with war. Both BD and PK has median age around 25 years so the vast VAST majority of BD and PK population are younger than the war. I have nothing against any Pakistani and I would have liked much better relation with PK since thee are virtually zero ways I can see BD and PK ever having any odd ball chance of conflict of interest or anything for that matter.

My answer to you is the same as above. Not playing victim card but was a literal reply to what someone said.

i respect your views and its same here in pakistan only 16 dec some tv channels having news about fall of Dhaka memories rest nation is young they dont care nor they have seen BD as east Pakistan . my personal views are we should not even take the east pakistan from day one or make it a free country from 1947 . you guys have own culture lifestyle and mind set . and yet again i dissagree how events happen in 1971 too it should be peaceful and with respect bhutto want to destroy army so he can rule west for lng time in future and that is why he did not let it happen with peace . yahya was greedy of power and stupid person . all in all we want to forget but haseena auntie and her followers here never let us forget . they start form 1971 and finish in 1971

 

[fitpOsitive]

This one is more inline with your feelings.


Why did you create this thread? Tired of wishing a civil war in BD? Or another Dhaka cafe attack? How would it benefit Pakistan?

Will you say sorry for what you did with non-Bengalis in 1971?

 

[Imran Khan]

I doubt the Pakistani army would do rape and murder.

We are Muslims and rape and murder are considered to be one of the most horrible crimes in Islam.

to us din argument kerty counter propaganda kerty na ye saaly ab to ilzam pakka ker diya india ne all india radio ne din raat aik ker diya tha tab . our army was worse and generals were worse ever those days . yahya ko phansi deni chayee thi .it was our duty to counter propaganda in 1971 or at least have invited for international or UN inquairy or ICJ report . now we can cry only .

Will you say sorry for what you did with non-Bengalis in 1971?

they were not consider as humans for them they were Pakistani even till recent times they were in camps like animals

 

[24 Hours]

All morality and ethics aside, the Pak army was not even in the numbers to possibly commit such a genocide or rape...Mate we are Muslim and rape and murder are considered the worst crimes...so can you even imagine a professional Muslim like Pak army renowned globally for its professionalism would do such unislamic crimes against its own people. Do you know the same propaganda was being fed to Baloch separatist but now they have realised that enemy took them for a ride and most of them have already laid down the arms and embracing the mainstream.

Muslim, Christian, Hindu it doesn't matter. They were claimed to be "war booty"so that didn't stop them.

Mate, it was more malicious than this. He wanted to join India with East Bengal becoming a province or a vassal state of India while he himself was to become Vice President of India, when his generals came to know about his plan, they killed him.
Bangladesh as an independent country is acceptable to us Pakistanis and that's why recognised it. I rather feel that there was poverty and perhaps establishment did not pay fair attention and I feel sad about that but those charges of massacre and rape are false.

Never was this going to happen, if this were the case India would have annexed Pakistan as early as 72.