Murree Brewery of Pakistan

[jeypore]

isnt it obvious?

Yea, I know that is why I asked the question? NO response to date!!!

 

[jeypore]

I mean - you know taht lovely feeling of - finishing up your six pack of Heineken on sunday afternoon under the sun on your roof with a nice plate of seesh kebaz. or roasted lamb. or when you watchign weekend fotty in the night - with your beer and your fish fry. or a nice glass of wine with your meal, or talking about social iussues in your living room with your friends and family with a glass of scotch , or dancing out in your night club on the bottles of absolut, or having rum during those biking trips cold night in your tent. or just bloody having it for the heck of it. whats wrong with having alcohal i never unbderstood this.

have done all that duhastmish, besides rum and biking trip thingy!!! More Like mojito or blood marry on sunday morning to remove those pesky hangovers. Any ways I cooking Burbaque this sunday Indian style with some Mojitos.

 

[Muradk]

have done all that duhastmish, besides rum and biking trip thingy!!! More Like mojito or blood marry on sunday morning to remove those pesky hangovers. Any ways I cooking Burbaque this sunday Indian style with some Mojitos.

What are you waiting for tell me were to come. Party time.

 

[jeypore]

What are you waiting for tell me were to come. Party time.

come on over, Atlanta

 

[Elmo]

isnt it obvious?

Yea, I know that is why I asked the question? NO response to date!!!

Jeypore and Raheel, what's obvious, please tell lil Elmo? Elmo doesn't know that and wants to know!

(as for the late response, well I have a lot of stuff to do in the real world... like a lot!)

And you know this vital information by????

Just know more than a couple of people who are into it...Elmo doesn't do such stuff... stays away from all vices and besides elmo likes elmo's system being clean, super clean!

For all the vital info, Elmo has been briefed inside out about where to go and buy what straight from horses' mouths. And courtesy that, now you know, when you drop by in Karachi, staying at PC/Sheraton can have more perks...

Pakistan is a funny place.

You know in restaurants in Zamzama, it's an unspoken/unwritten rule that if you want book their place for a party/GT and want liquor served, you can bring your own cache and they will dispense it.

I don't remember exactly where, it was either Okra or somewhere else, a couple of Chinese were having dinner and wanted alcoholic beer. so they gave the cans to the waiter, who brought back the contents in a teapot along with an ice bucket

Well lots of people coming up, admitting and sharing their experiences as how to get hold of alcohol in Pakistan without being caught. But, i am learning! BTW, i never knew toddlers in Pakistan also have experienced the 'purchase-procedure' first hand!

Why are you rolling on the floor, you could have just laughed out aloud.... Be nice to Elmo otherwise Elmo will not let you in on other juicy stuff

Elmo finds it surprising that the "dada", who is famous for his "dada giri", is still in the learning stage .... so much for being a senior... Elmo thought you guys went crazy doing this stuff when you landed back in civilisation (read: Isl, Lhr and Khi) but you are a different khait ki mooli indeed. Oops...

And no one ever gets caught buying alcohol in Pakistan, except those people who can only afford moonshine.

 

[fatman17]

man! you can get everything and anything - all you need to do is "show the money" !!!

 

[Ratus Ratus]

man! you can get everything and anything - all you need to do is "show the money" !!!

The words from a man of experience..

Honestly I have know idea about drinking these sort of drinks. Just not my style.








I am all for straight guzzling..

 

[Muradk]

If you are in Islamabad just go to Thai embassy there 70% revenue is generated by selling liquor.

 

[Zob]

liquor is boring....the smell the people throwing up after that the men pissin all over the place....no sense of where you are or what people are doing to you....


so ask yourself next time before you plan on drinking....

WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME I DID SOMETHING FOR THE FIRST TIME......

ANSWER:

SMOKE POT keep discovering


avoid DRINKING start SMOKIN....legalize marijuana!!!!



P.S. i am just saying what i have heard!!!

 

[Zulfiqar]

Okay, i am a university student in Islamabad and i know like 10 people among my friends who drink(i don't drink neither smoke).

They have dance parties in their houses and since police can't raid personal property so they live to tell the tail.

Local sellers have deals with the cops,according to which they won't catch a person in certain radius around that place.

Alcohol selling is seasonal too. I don't remember exactly but i have heard that police has to keep certain benchmark according to which for a period of one operating year they have to catch a particular number of criminals(alcoholics,rapists, thieves e.t.c e.t.c) so what they do is they do not disturb the alcoholics for 8-10 months but they start catching people for even possessing a can of beer in the ending months.

 

[Zob]

@MIAN ASAD


i know all about those parties where girls dance for you and if they like you they more than just DANCE FOR YOU.....

i have been invited to such parties in karachi but i find it way to sleezy!!!!

and most of these girls are from well off FAMILIES and are just BORED!!!!!

but ohh well these parties are just SO NOT PAKISTAN!!!

 

[Zulfiqar]

^^^ BTW i never went to dance parties nor do i like them.

 

[LiberalPakistani]

INTOXICANTS
The Arabic word khamr signifies any alcoholic drink which causes intoxication.
We would be stating the obvious if we were to discuss the harmful effects of
drinking on the individual's mind, his health, his religion, and his work; or if we
discussed the disasters which he brings upon his family by neglecting their needs
and by not fulfilling his obligations, as the head of the family, toward his wife and
children; or if we elaborated on the spiritual, material, and moral evils which
proliferate in societies and nations due to the widespread consumption of
alcohol.
A researcher in this area has rightly stated that: Mankind has not suffered any
greater calamity than that brought about by the use of alcohol. If statistics were
collected worldwide of all the patients in hospitals who, due to alcohol, are
suffering from mental disorders, delirium tremens, nervous breakdowns, and
ailments of the digestive tract, to which are added the statistics of suicides,
homicides, bankruptcies, sales of properties, and broken homes related to the
consumption of alcohol, the number of such cases would be so staggering that, in
comparison to it, all exhortation and preaching against drinking would seem too
little.
The Arabs during the period of jahiliyyah were very fond of wine and drinking
parties. This love of wine is reflected in their language, which has nearly one
hundred names for it, and in their poetry, which celebrates the praises of wine,
goblets, drinking parties, and so on.
To eradicate this pervasive evil from society, Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala adopted
a wise course of education and training, prohibiting it in measured stages. First,
He made it clear to them that the harm of drinking wine is greater than its
benefit; next, He told them not to come to salat while intoxicated; and finally, He
revealed the verse in Surah al-Maidah which prohibited it totally and decisively:
O you who believe! Truly, intoxicants and gambling and divination by arrows are
an abomination of Satan's doing: avoid it in order that you may be successful.
Assuredly Satan desires to sow enmity and hatred among you with intoxicants
and gambling, and to hinder you from the remembrance of Allah and from salat.
Will you not then desist? (5:93-94 (90-91))
In these two verses, Allah strictly prohibited wine and gambling, linking them to
idols and seeking omens by means of divining arrows, and declared them to be
rijs (abominable or ******), a term which the Qur'an reserves for extremely
indecent and evil things. He ascribes them to the work of Satan, which indeed
consists only of obscenity and evil, and commands the Believers to abstain from
them as the only way to attain success. Allah Ta'ala then mentions the harmful
effects of wine and gambling on society, namely, the breaking of relationships
and ensuing enmity and hatred, in addition to the harm they do to man's soul by
causing him to neglect the religious obligations of remembering Allah and of
performing salat. The verses end with a very stern admonition to abstain: "Will
you not then desist?" And when the Prophet (peace be on him) had finished
reciting these verses for the first time, the listeners answered with the fervent cry,
"We have desisted, O Lord! We have desisted!"
The response of the Muslims to these verses was remarkable indeed. At the time
some people were drinking, with partly-filled cups in their hands. As soon as they
heard someone announcing, "Wine has indeed been prohibited," they poured the
remaining drinks upon the ground and broke the big clay pots in which other
drinks were being fermented.
Many present-day governments throughout the world are convinced of the
harmful effects of alcohol on individuals, families, and society. Some
governments, such as that of the United States, have even tried to abolish alcohol
by passing, and attempting to enforce, laws prohibiting the drinking of alcohol. It
is only Islam which has succeeded in combating and eradicating it.
The churchmen hold differing opinions concerning the position of alcohol in
Christianity. Some argue that the Biblical text permits drinking in small
quantities, since it is good for the digestion. (See, for example, I Tim. 5:23.) But if
this should be true, even though a little wine may be beneficial to the digestion,
this little must be prohibited, as a small amount leads to large amounts and one
glass to other glasses, until one becomes' addicted to it. For this reason Islam's
stand in prohibiting alcohol and in blocking all avenues which lead to drinking is
very clear and unequivocal.
All That Intoxicates Is Haram
The first declaration made by the Prophet (peace be him) concerning this matter
was that not only is wine prohibited but that the definition of khamr extends to
any substance which intoxicates, in whatever form or under whatever name it
may appear. Thus, example, beer and similar drinks are haram.
The Prophet (peace be on h) was once asked about certain drinks made from
honey, corn, or barley by the process of fermenting them until they became
alcoholic. The Messenger of Allah (peace be on him), blessed as he was with the
best of speech' replied succinctly, "Every intoxicant is khamr, and every khamr is
haram." Reported by Muslim. )
And 'Umar declared from the pulpit of the Prophet, "Khamr is that which befogs
the mind." (Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim. )
Whatever Intoxicates in Large Amounts is Haram in Any Amount
Islam takes an uncompromising stand in prohibiting intoxicants, regardless of
whether the amount is little or much. If an individual is permitted to take but a
single step along this road, other steps follow; he starts walking and then
running, and does not stop at any stage. This is why the Prophet (peace be on
him) said, "Of that which intoxicates in a large amount, a small amount is
haram." (Reported by Ahmad Abu Daoud, and al-Tirmidhi. )
And again, "If a bucketful intoxicates, a sip of it is haram." (Reported by Ahmad
Abu Daoud, and al-Tirmidhi.)
Trading in Alcohol
The Prophet (peace be on him) did not stop at prohibiting the drinking of alcohol,
whether much or little, but he also forbade any trading in it, even with non-
Muslims. It is not permissible for a Muslim to import or export alcoholic
beverages, or to own or work in a place which sells them. In connection with
alcohol, the Prophet (peace be on him) cursed ten categories of people saying:
Truly, Allah has cursed khamr and has cursed the one who produces it, the one
for whom it is produced, the one who drinks it, the one who serves it, the one who
carries it, the one for whom it is carried, the one who sells it, the one who earns
from the sale of it, the one who buys it, and the one for whom it is bought.
(Reported by al-Tirmidhi and Ibn Majah, on reliable authority. )
When the above verse of Surah al-Maidah was revealed, the Prophet (peace be on
him) announced: Truly, Allah has prohibited khamr. Therefore, whoever hears
this verse and possesses some of this substance should neither drink it nor sell it.
The narrator of this hadith says, "The people brought forth whatever they
possessed of it and poured it out in the streets of Madinah." (Reported by
Muslim.)
Since the Islamic method is to block all avenues which lead to the haram, it is also
haram for a Muslim to sell grapes to a person whom he knows will make khamr
from them. A hadith states: If someone stockpiles grapes during harvest time and
holds them in order to sell them to a Jew or Christian or anyone else (even if he
be a Muslim) who produces khamr, he will be leaping into the Fire with his eyes
open. (Reported by al-Tabarani in Al-Awsat, and classified as sahih by al-Hafiz in
Bulugh al-Maram.)
Alcohol Cannot Be Given as a Gift
Just as the sale of alcohol or receiving the price of it is haram for the Muslim,
likewise giving it as a gift to anyone, such as a Christian or Jewish friend, is
haram. Alcoholic beverages cannot be received or given by a Muslim as gifts
because a Muslim is pure and neither gives nor receives anything except what is
pure.
It is reported that a man brought a cask of wine to the Prophet (peace be on him)
as a gift. The Prophet (peace be on him) informed him that Allah had prohibited
it. 'Shall I not sell it?' asked the man. 'The One Who Prohibited drinking it has
also prohibited selling it,' replied the Prophet (peace be on him). 'Shall I not give
it to a Jew as a gift?' asked the man. 'The One Who has prohibited it has also
prohibited that it be given as a gift to the Jew,' said the Prophet. 'Then what shall
I do with it?' asked the man. 'Pour it on the ground,' the Prophet replied.
(Reported by al-Hameedi in his Musnad. )
Avoiding Drinking Parties
In the same spirit, the Muslim is ordered to stay away from drinking parties or
gatherings at which drinks are served. 'Umar narrated that he heard the
Messenger of Allah (peace be on him) saying, "Whoever believes in Allah and the
Last Day must not sit at table at which khamr is consumed." (Reported by
Ahmad; al-Tirmidhi also reports something similar to it.)
While it is the duty of a Muslim to eradicate the evil he sees, if he is unable to do
so, he must stay away from it, leaving the place where people are engaged in such
things.
It is reported that the rightly-guided Caliph 'Umar ibn 'Abdul'Aziz used to flog
not only those who drank but those who sat with them as well, even if they were
not themselves drinking. When once he was told of a group of people who were at
a drinking party, he ordered that all of them be flogged. He was told that a person
who was fasting was among them. "Begin with him," he said. "Have you not heard
Allah's saying, 'And He has revealed to you in the Book that when you hear the
revelation of Allah rejected and mocked, you are not to sit with them until they
turn to some other theme; for if you do so, you will be like them....' " (4:140)
Alcohol, Itself a Disease, Cannot Be a Medicine
From all the explicit texts of the Qur'an and ahadith quoted above, we see that
Islam is very firm in combating alcohol, as well as in keeping the Muslim away
from it by erecting barriers between him and it so that no opening, either wide or
narrow, is left for him either to consume alcohol or to touch it. The Muslim is not
allowed to drink it in large or small amounts; he is not permitted to handle it
through selling or buying, manufacturing, or giving it as a gift; he is not allowed
to bring it to his home or shop; he is not allowed to serve it at gatherings, for a
joyous occasion or otherwise, or to serve it to a non-Muslim guest; and he is not
allowed to mix it with any food or beverage.
A question raised by some people which still remains to be answered concerns
the use of alcohol as a medicine. This question was answered by the Prophet
(peace be on him) when a man told him that he used wine as a medicine. The
Prophet (peace be on him) said, "It is not a medicine but a disease,'' (Reported by
Muslim, Ahmad, Abu Daoud, and al-Tirmidhi.)
He also said, Allah has sent down the disease and the cure, and for every disease
there is a cure. So take medicine but do not use anything haram as medicine.
(Reported by Abu-Daoud.)
With regard to intoxicants Ibn Mas'ud said, "Allah has not made a cure for you in
what He has prohibited to you." (Reported by al-Bukhari as a comment on the
preceding hadith.) It is therefore not surprising that Islam forbids the use of
alcohol and other prohibited substances as medicines. As explained by Ibn
Qayyim, the prohibition of a thing implies avoiding and staying way from it by
every means, while taking it as a medicine renders it desirable and reuires
keeping it on hand, and this is against the Law-Giver's purpose. Ibn Qayyim, said,
"If alcohol were permitted as medicine when people are already inclined toward
it, it would provide them with an excuse to drink it for pleasure and enjoyment,
especially since people have the impression that it is beneficial for their health,
alleviates their complaints, and cures their diseases." (Zad al-Ma'ad, vol. 3, pp.
115-116.)
One may also mention that the attitude of the patient toward the medicine he
takes has a considerable effect in hastening or delaying the cure. Ibn Qayyim,
who had considerable insight into human psychology, elaborates on this point in
the following manner: One condition for the efficacy of the medicine is that the
patient believes in its efficacy and that Allah has placed the blessing of cure in it.
Now the Muslim patient's belief that a particular substance, such as alcohol, is
haram prevents him from believing that it can at the same time be beneficial or
blessed. Thus he will not have any trust in it nor will he take it approvingly. On
the contrary! The stronger the Muslim's faith, the greater will be his aversion to it
and the greater his mistrust of it. If hethen grudgingly takes what he hates and
loathes, it will not be a cure for him but a disease. (Adapted from his discussion
in Zad al-Ma'ad, vol. 3.)
Having said this, we must again mention the exempted case of necessity; the
Islamic Shari'ah has a different ruling for such a case. Supposing a ma's life were
in danger and no substitute for a medication containing alcohol were available; a
Muslim physician, who was at once an expert in his field and at the same time
zealous in safeguarding the commands of religion, would then find no alternative
except to prescribe a medication containing alcohol. As its aim is always the
welfare of human beings, the Shari'ah permits the taking of such a medicine in
such a case. However, one must be aware that this concession is strictly limited to
that quality which is deemed essential: ...But if one is compelled by necessity,
neither craving (it) nor transgressing, then, indeed, thy Lord is Forgiving,
Merciful. (6:145)
DRUGS
"Khamr is what befogs the mind." These are the words spoken by 'Umar ibn al-
Khattab from the pulpit of the Prophet (peace be on him), providing us with a
decisive criterion for defining what falls under the prohibited category of khamr.
There remains then no room for doubts and questions: any substance which has
the effect of befogging or clouding the mind, impairing its faculties of thought,
perception, and discernment is prohibited by Allah and His Messenger (peace be
on him) until the Day of Resurrection.
Drugs such as marijuana, cocaine, opium, and the like are definitely included in
the prohibited category of khamr. It is well known that the use of such drugs
affects the sensory perceptions, making what is near seem distant and what is
distant seem near; that their use produces illusions and hallucinations, so that
the real seems to disappear and what is imaginary appears to be real; and that
drug usage in general impairs the faculty of reasoning and decision-making. Such
drugs are taken as a means of escape from the inner reality of one's feelings and
the outer realities of life and religion into the realm of fantasy and imagination.
Added to this psychological fact are the physical effects: bodily lassitude, dullness
of the nerves, and decline in overall health. The moral consequences, moral
insensitivity, weakening of the will-power, and neglect of responsibilities are also
well known. Eventually, addiction to drugs renders a person a diseased member
of society. Furthermore, drug addiction may result in the destruction of the
family or even in a life of crime. Since obtaining drugs involves a great outlay of
money, a drug addict may well deprive his family of necessities in order to buy
drugs and may resort to illegal means to pay for them.
When we recall the principle that impure and harmful things have been made
haram, there can be no doubt in our minds concerning the prohibition of such
detestable substances such as drugs, which cause so much physical,
psychological, moral, social and economic harm.
The Muslim jurists were unanimous in prohibiting those drugs which were found
during their respective times and places. Foremost among them was Sheikh al-
Islam Ibn Taymiyyah, who said, This solid grass (hashish) is haram, whether or
not it produces intoxication. Sinful people smoke it because they find it produces
rapture and delight, an effect similar to drunkenness. While wine makes the one
who drinks it active and quarrelsome, hashish produces dullness and lethargy;
furthermore, smoking it disturbs the mind and temperament, excites sexual
desire, and leads to shameless promiscuity, and these are greater evils than those
caused by drinking. The use of it has spread among the people after the coming of
the Tartars. The hadd punishment (The Qur'an specifies the punishments for
certain crimes, such as lashing for drinking wine and equal retaliation or
compensation in the case of murder or injuries. These punishments are called
hadd (plural, hudud), meaning "the limit set by Allah." (Trans.)) for smoking
hashish, whether a small or large amount of it, is the same as that for drinking
wine, that is, eighty or forty lashes.
He explained the imposition of hadd for smoking hashish in the following
manner: It is the rule of the Islamic Shari'ah that any prohibited thing which is
desired by people, such as wine and illicit sexual relations, is to be punished by
imposing hadd, while the violation of a prohibited thing which is not desired,
such as (eating) the flesh of a dead animal, calls for ta'zir. (For crimes concerning
which no specified punishment is mentioned in the Qur'an or Ahadith, the
Muslim government may introduce its own punishments, such as fines or
imprisonment. Such a punishment is called ta'zir. (Trans.)) Now hashish is
something which is desired, and it is hard for the addict to renounce it
Accordingly, the application of the texts of the Qur'an and Sunnah to hashish is
similar to that of wine. (Fatawa Ibn Taymiyyah, vol. 4, p. 262 f. Also see his book,
Al-Siyasah al-Shar'iyyah.)
The Consumption of Harmful Things is Haram
A general rule of the Islamic Shari'ah is that it is haram for the Muslim to eat or
drink anything which may cause his death, either quickly or gradually, such as
poisons, or substances which are injurious to health or harmful to his body. It is
also haram to eat or drink large quantities of a substance if large quantities of it
cause illness. For the Muslim is not entirely his own master; he is also an asset to
his religion and his ummah (the Muslim nation), and his life, health, wealth, and
all that Allah has bestowed upon him are a trust with him which he is not
permitted to diminish. Says Allah Subhanahu wa Ta'ala: And do not kill
yourselves; indeed, Allah is ever Merciful to you. (4:29)
He also says: And do not be cast into ruin by your own hands.... (2:195)
And His Messenger (peace be on him) said: "Do not harm yourself or others.''
(Reported by Ahmad and Ibn Majah.)
As an application of this principle, we may say that if it is proved that the use of
tobacco is injurious to health, it is haram, especially for a person whose physician
has advised him to stop smoking. Even if it is not injurious to health, it is still a
waste of money, spent neither for religious nor for secular benefit, and the
Prophet (peace be on him) forbade wasting of property. (Reported by al-
Bukhari.) This becomes the more serious when the money is otherwise needed
for the sustenance of oneself or one's family.


I'm just so disappointed in PAF and Pakistan Army who are serving while drinking no wonder Pakistan is in so much trouble

 

[AstanoshKhan]

Forget about these expensive and Gora style drinks. Come to Peshawar and for Rs50 you can get Chars to make 10 cigarettes which are sufficient enough to make you fly in the skys for a long week.

 

[Shaheen767]

How can you people support this blasphemy?