Mumbai Attacks

[Justin Joseph]

Why the title of the thread is changed???????

censorship???

 

[ejaz007]

Pakistan hands six dossiers to India over Mumbai attacks

* FO spokesman says Islamabad has asked India to hand over Kasab, Fahim to complete its own trial
* Kasab extradition ‘not extradition per se’ but legal requirement

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan on Sunday handed over to India six dossiers on its own investigation into the Mumbai attacks, with a request that India hand over Ajmal Kasab and an Indian national, Fahim Ansari so that their testimonies could be recorded in Pakistan.

Top Foreign Office officials handed over the dossiers to the Indian deputy high commissioner, APP reported.

The government asked India to hand over the lone surviving gunman of the 2008 Mumbai attacks so that it could complete its own trial of seven suspects linked to the assault, officials said.

“We have sought India’s help that he (Ajmal Kasab) should be handed over to us so that the trial here can go forward,” Foreign Office spokesman Abdul Basit told AFP.

Islamabad is holding seven suspects linked to the November 26 to 29 attack on India’s financial capital, including alleged mastermind of the operation, Zakiur Rehman Lakhvi, and Lashkar-e-Tayyaba (LT) operative Zarar Shah.

India and Washington have both blamed the Mumbai attack on the LT.

An anti-terrorism court in Rawalpindi indicted the seven men on the eve of the first anniversary of the attack.

Since the indictment, officials have implied that the seven suspects’ trial cannot proceed unless Kasab, who was convicted in Mumbai last month after a year-long trial, is handed over as a witness.

Extradition: When asked how India could extradite Kasab and Ansari to Pakistan, Basit replied, “It is not extradition per se. It is a legal requirement since the court has asked that Kasab be produced before it.”

Interior Minister Rehman Malik has also said that Kasab is required to appear in Rawalpindi.

“Kasab’s statement is of paramount importance in the Mumbai attack case, which is an important document and our courts need it,” APP quoted him as telling reporters late on Saturday.

Malik said India would also be requested to send to Rawalpindi the officials who recorded Kasab’s statement in Mumbai. agencies

Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan

 

[pkd]

Mumbai attacks: Verdict on Kasab to be delivered shortly

Judge M L Tahaliyani will pronounce a verdict in the biggest terror trial the city has witnessed in recent times in a short while from now. In the box will be Ajmal Amir Kasab, the Pakistani gunman charged with the deaths of 166 Indians and foreigners. Along with him, his two Indian co-accused -- Faheem Ansari and Sabauddin Shaikh -- will also know their fate.

The prosecution has gathered a heap of evidence against Kasab and presented strong arguments that are capable of sending him to the gallows. Special prosecutor Ujjwal Nikam has charged Kasab with not just the criminal acts of killing and injuring scores of innocent people, but has termed him guilty of the entire conspiracy that went into planning and executing the dastardly attack.

Nikam has argued that Kasab is a highly trained and motivated member of the Pakistani terror outfit Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) who underwent months of training in weapons and intelligence so he could execute the well-planned attack on Mumbai. Nikam has also relied on scores of witness testimonies in a bid to establish Kasab's role in the killing of innocents at CST and Cama Hospital, the gunning down of senior policemen in Badruddin Tyabji Lane and the final gunbattle at Marine Drive.

The prosecution's main argument has been that Kasab is a cold-blooded killer whose guilt has been established both through human accounts of the night of November 26, 2008, as well as forensic evidence in the form of DNA reports.

The case against Ansari and Shaikh revolves around Kasab's confession to magistrate R V Sawant Waghule in February 2009. Kasab had said that the duo supplied maps of Mumbai to LeT bosses. Thus, they gave logistical support to carry out the attack.

In his defence, Kasab has maintained that he was an innocent Pakistani who was picked up several days prior to the attack. He has insisted that the terrorist caught on CCTV is not him but a lookalike. He also rubbished all witness testimonies as tutored and given at the behest of police officials.

Both Ansari and Shaikh have denied all wrongdoing. Their main argument is why would the LeT rely upon crude maps allegedly supplied by them when far more sophisticated versions were easily available on the internet. After the arrest of American David Coleman Headley, they also argued that recce work for the attack was done by him and they had been framed needlessly in the case.

In September 2006, after 13 years of arguments, the Tada court had begun giving its verdicts in the 1993 serial blasts case. It was the last major trial in recent times.


http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Verdict-on-Kasab-to-be-pronounced-shortly/articleshow/5885540.cms

 

[WAQAS119]

No matter he is innocent or not, he will get verdict of death.. Because in past too Indian courts has given such verdict by saying that even they found accused innocent but due to public opinion they have to give such verdict. And public opinion maker is media, and everyone knows how they behaved.

Thus public opinion matters in courts decision making especially in such kind of cases. This time they may not accept his innocence too.

 

[notsuperstitious]

No matter he is innocent or not, he will get verdict of death.. Because in past too Indian courts has given such verdict by saying that even they found accused innocent but due to public opinion they have to give such verdict. And public opinion maker is media, and everyone knows how they behaved.

Thus public opinion matters in courts decision making especially in such kind of cases. This time they may not accept his innocence too.

Whats your point?

 

[afriend]

No matter he is innocent or not, he will get verdict of death.. Because in past too Indian courts has given such verdict by saying that even they found accused innocent but due to public opinion they have to give such verdict. And public opinion maker is media, and everyone knows how they behaved.

Thus public opinion matters in courts decision making especially in such kind of cases. This time they may not accept his innocence too.

I would have to politely disagree with you here..!!! All evidence including photographic..videos... and witness are against him..!! It would be your ignorance if you say all these are not good enough evidence.. and mr ajmal kasab can be innocent..!!! Please don't try to accuse indian judiciary for giving him a fair trial.

In past too.. there was a very famous case called nithari killings.. where more than a dozen kids where killed and their skeltons and bones hwere recovered from Mr. Kholi the owner of the hosue... CBI and the other investigations agencies had made it clear that they didnt have any evidence against him..!! Still the lower court sentenced hiim to death.. due to the overwhelming public opinion and -ve perception against him.. But then again.. the higher court just set him free citing the lack of evidence..!!!

So i would say indian judiciary is independent and strong enough just as the democractic system in india...!!!

 

[WAQAS119]

I would have to politely disagree with you here..!!! All evidence including photographic..videos... and witness are against him..!! It would be your ignorance if you say all these are not good enough evidence.. and mr ajmal kasab can be innocent..!!! Please don't try to accuse indian judiciary for giving him a fair trial.

In past too.. there was a very famous case called nithari killings.. where more than a dozen kids where killed and their skeltons and bones hwere recovered from Mr. Kholi the owner of the hosue... CBI and the other investigations agencies had made it clear that they didnt have any evidence against him..!! Still the lower court sentenced hiim to death.. due to the overwhelming public opinion and -ve perception against him.. But then again.. the higher court just set him free citing the lack of evidence..!!!

So i would say indian judiciary is independent and strong enough just as the democractic system in india...!!!

Only according to your media.. What you watch on news channels becomes your point of view.. and don't be offended if i say that anti-Pakistanism sells in India and your media exploits it..
I am not accusing ur judiciary but what i said in my previous post is a documented past precident of Indian court.. I mean public opinion matters in such cases and judges considers it alot..

 

[RajeHind]

http://www.pro-pakistan.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/ajmal_kasab.jpg

according to some one he is not guilty.

 

[afriend]

Only according to your media.. What you watch on news channels becomes your point of view.. and don't be offended if i say that anti
Pakistanism sells in India and your media exploits it..
I am not accusing ur judiciary but what i said in my previous post is a documented past precident of Indian court.. I mean public opinion matters in such cases and judges considers it alot..

I am citing a documented case for you..to counter your claim.. and i would like to get some case studies where in public opinion had come into picture..!!!

And also.. if you say the testimony of the eye witness and vicitims are all false.. and the videographic evidence which clearly shows kasab killing are all an exploitation of india media.. i can only say this politely.. Get a life... pls..!!!!!

 

[prodevelopment]

Only according to your media.. What you watch on news channels becomes your point of view.. and don't be offended if i say that anti-Pakistanism sells in India and your media exploits it..
I am not accusing ur judiciary but what i said in my previous post is a documented past precident of Indian court.. I mean public opinion matters in such cases and judges considers it alot..

Whether anti-Pakistanism sells in India or not is irrelevant in this case. Even if the Indian Media has proof against Kasab, no credible international party has come out with proof in support of him.
Even if the media is biased, the only thing that matters is that the proof presented in front of the court is overwhelmingly against Ajmal Kasab.
IF/WHEN he is found guilty, the blame cannot be put on Indian media without first proving his innocence. The best thing that the media can be accused of is just that, bias.

 

[blueoval79]

Pakistan Home Village Calls For Mumbai Suspect's Release

FARIDKOT, Pakistan, May 3, 2010 (AFP) - Residents of Faridkot, home to the alleged surviving gunman of the Mumbai massacre, deny any connection with their wayward son but believe India should release him in the interests of peace.

The remote town in the Pakistani farming belt of Punjab province has earned notoriety as the home of Mohammed Ajmal Amir Kasab, accused of taking part in the 72-hour bloodbath in November 2008 that killed 166 people in Mumbai.

On Monday, as the 22-year-old Pakistani prepared to learn his fate in court, some people in Faridkot, about 26 kilometres (16 miles) from the Indian border, sat in groups watching TV waiting to hear the verdict, said an AFP reporter.

The day before the sentencing, a hawker distributed a weekly newspaper published by Jamaat-ud-Dawa, which Indian and US officials believe is a front for the Lashkar-e-Taiba militant group blamed for the Mumbai attacks.

With Faridkot's wheat harvest in full swing, workers loading grain into vehicles to a din of folk music said they were sympathetic to Kasab's "good intentions" against an "enemy" country.

Around 10,000 people live in the town. Most of the population are labourers and small farmers. Few are literate.

"Are they talking about our Ajmal?" 45-year-old Noor Ahmed asked, interrupting a discussion on how residents feel about the Indian sentencing.

"No. No. We don't know him," he said, sitting on a dirty cot in a small brick and clay room on the bank of Faridkot's canal.

"But we have sympathies for him being Muslim."

Residents said they would denounce any sentence India hands down to Kasab.

"Look, don't blame him. There is nothing wrong if he did it with good intentions against an infidel country like India," said Amjad Ali, a 60-year-old farmer with white hair.

"India should forgive him and set him free to improve relations with Pakistan," he added.

Bakhat Yar, 42, a farmer wearing a traditional grey shalwar khamis, said Kasab's father left the village years ago.

"We have never seen this boy in the village. Only his grandfather's haveli (house) is here," he said. "They have left this place, I guess."

Yar first said that Kasab should be found guilty and sentenced, then later retracted his remarks.

"India should not give him the death sentence. After all, he is Muslim and if he did it against India, look what our neighbour India is doing.

"India is doing bomb blasts in Pakistan and it has also blocked Pakistan's water," he said -- echoing the beliefs of many in Pakistan that its arch-rival is behind suicide attacks in the country and siphoning off its water resources.

One student claimed Kasab was a childhood friend who was in a group that used to swim in Faridkot's polluted canal and liked to throw other boys into the water. He believes Kasab was brainwashed.

"Definitely, the (Mumbai) incident created a bad impression for Pakistan and especially Faridkot. We haven't earned a good name," the student said.

He called on the massacre's masterminds to be punished, and said it would be better if India extradited Kasab to Pakistan.

Pakistan home village calls for Mumbai suspect's release

 

[RobbieS]

No matter he is innocent or not, he will get verdict of death.. Because in past too Indian courts has given such verdict by saying that even they found accused innocent but due to public opinion they have to give such verdict. And public opinion maker is media, and everyone knows how they behaved.

Thus public opinion matters in courts decision making especially in such kind of cases. This time they may not accept his innocence too.

Its one thing trying to mold public opinion and quite other to refute TV footage and the fact that Kasab was captured alive by the police. Otherwise it wouldn't have taken the courts 18 months to announce the verdict.

And can you please enlighten us by sharing the past incidents where Indian courts sentenced terrorists to death under public opinion?

Just think about the fact that you are trying to defend a terrorist!

 

[KS]

I am citing a documented case for you..to counter your claim.. and i would like to get some case studies where in public opinion had come into picture..!!!

And also.. if you say the testimony of the eye witness and vicitims are all false.. and the videographic evidence which clearly shows kasab killing are all an exploitation of india media.. i can only say this politely.. Get a life... pls..!!!!!

Bro...dont u know..Ajmal Kasab is Amar Singh and the whole Mumbai episode is just another RAW-CIA-MOSSAD conspiracy..

 

[WAQAS119]

I am citing a documented case for you..to counter your claim.. and i would like to get some case studies where in public opinion had come into picture..!!!

And also.. if you say the testimony of the eye witness and vicitims are all false.. and the videographic evidence which clearly shows kasab killing are all an exploitation of india media.. i can only say this politely.. Get a life... pls..!!!!!

I am not defending Kasab, he may be guilty or may be not, GOD knows better.... I was only arguing about this case's result.

For case study for requested, i have no link for you but I am a chartered accountancy student and we do study law thus i have that knowledge....

As far as evidence is concern, you knows better what is not possible now a days, specially by a Intelligence agency with billion of dollar budget.

BTW if Kasab is guilty he must be hanged till death.

 

[ARCHON]

I am not defending Kasab, he may be guilty or may be not, GOD knows better.... I was only arguing about this case's result.

For case study for requested, i have no link for you but I am a chartered accountancy student and we do study law thus i have that knowledge....

As far as evidence is concern, you knows better what is not possible now a days, specially by a Intelligence agency with billion of dollar budget.

BTW if Kasab is guilty he must be hanged till death.

I am strictly against capital punishment, but its my view.

We have no right to take the life of another person if he has committed a murder. If we do we are also a murderer.
Human life is god given. we have no right to take it.