Muhammad of Ghor and his Companions enter the Indus valley - one of the greatest wars erupts + fountain of wealth

[H. Dawary]

None of the 3 were afghan. Abdali never called himself an afghan.. he was a local Pashtun of present day Pakistan.

Abdali is of Afghanistan although he was born in Multan... His mother was pregnant with him while there was a tribal feud going on, his father was killed in Herat. Abdali's mother pleaded with a local tribe's elder in Kandahar to be escorted safely away from the warring tribes he did so as was Pashtun custom to help those in need. She went to Multan, where a Pashtun dynasty was set up, all persecuted Pashtuns went there when they failed to grab power in Kandahar (which was a cesspool of non-stop fighting). In his later years he came back to Kandahar and from there started his career under Nader Shah...

This is the jist of the history, I can give references if you'd like.

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

Abdali is of Afghanistan although he was born in Multan... His mother was pregnant with him while there was a tribal feud going on, his father was killed in Herat. Abdali's mother pleaded with a local tribe's elder in Kandahar to be escorted safely away from the warring tribes he did so as was Pashtun custom to help those in need. She went to Multan, where a Pashtun dynasty was set up, all persecuted Pashtuns went there when they failed to grab power in Kandahar (which was a cesspool of non-stop fighting). In his later years he came back to Kandahar and from there started his career under Nader Shah...

This is the jist of the history, I can give references if you'd like.

Studies that associate Durani Kingdom with Afghanistan scarcely acknowledge the fact that “Afghanistan” was rarely used as a geographic term in sources predating 19th century. This includes chronicles produced under the auspices of various Timurid, Mughal, Safavid and post-Safavid rulers who exercised authority over the territories comprising what is today Afghanistan in the pre-Durani era. The same is true for documents produced at the court of Aḥmad Shah, which are noteworthy for not containing any references to “Afghanistan” despite the fact that the Abdali is widely regarded as the country’s “founding father". On the other hand, geographic terms like Turkistan, Khurasan and Hindistan are regularly encountered in sources produced in that period.
In his titles he doesn't call himself 'King of Afghanistan'. In his biography, nowhere he calls himself Afghan. If you have any source that disputes this i would love to know. The reluctance has roots in the word 'Afghan' being an exonym not something Pashtuns chose for themselves initially.
Ahmed Shahs paternal sadozai relatives lived in Multan from before. Infact presence of pakhtuns in Multan and its vicinity was way before pre islamic era due to its proximity to Takht-e-Sulaiman ,a traditional pashtun legend. This has been stated by Al Beruni in his book. Even Herdotus (500 BC) mentions boundaries of the partylike land extend up to eastern province of Arachosia ( river chenab ).
Its important to mention not only did Ahmad Shah grow up in Multan, he married there and had children there. He spoke local language and had locals in his army. So much so Multan also didn't get raided by Nader shah for the same reasons. His children who later inherited the kingdom died in present day Pakistan. Abdali himself died in Toba Achakzai near Chaman (Pakistan) and got burial in Kandahar(Afganistan). Abdali clan origin Arghistan is in Afghanistan right next to Pak-Afghan border apart from the fact that Abdali had his HQ in present day Afganistan therefore Afghans have right to Abdali as much as Pakistanis do.

 

[H. Dawary]

Studies that associate Durani Kingdom with Afghanistan scarcely acknowledge the fact that “Afghanistan” was rarely used as a geographic term in sources predating 19th century. This includes chronicles produced under the auspices of various Timurid, Mughal, Safavid and post-Safavid rulers who exercised authority over the territories comprising what is today Afghanistan in the pre-Durani era. The same is true for documents produced at the court of Aḥmad Shah, which are noteworthy for not containing any references to “Afghanistan” despite the fact that the Abdali is widely regarded as the country’s “founding father". On the other hand, geographic terms like Turkistan, Khurasan and Hindistan are regularly encountered in sources produced in that period.
In his titles he doesn't call himself 'King of Afghanistan'. In his biography, nowhere he calls himself Afghan. If you have any source that disputes this i would love to know. The reluctance has roots in the word 'Afghan' being an exonym not something Pashtuns chose for themselves initially.
Ahmed Shahs paternal sadozai relatives lived in Multan from before. Infact presence of pakhtuns in Multan and its vicinity was way before pre islamic era due to its proximity to Takht-e-Sulaiman ,a traditional pashtun legend. This has been stated by Al Beruni in his book. Even Herdotus (500 BC) mentions boundaries of the partylike land extend up to eastern province of Arachosia ( river chenab ).
Its important to mention not only did Ahmad Shah grow up in Multan, he married there and had children there. He spoke local language and had locals in his army. So much so Multan also didn't get raided by Nader shah for the same reasons. His children who later inherited the kingdom died in present day Pakistan. Abdali himself died in Toba Achakzai near Chaman (Pakistan) and got burial in Kandahar(Afganistan). Abdali clan origin Arghistan is in Afghanistan right next to Pak-Afghan border apart from the fact that Abdali had his HQ in present day Afganistan therefore Afghans have right to Abdali as much as Pakistanis do.

I know this... Ahmad Shah during his time was never considered "King of Afghanistan". Afghanistan is called Afghanistan due to the British, they would call today's Afghanistan as "the kingdom of Caubol" but upon learning the tribes of this area up until Mardan and Kohat referred to themselves as Afghan, they decided to call this region "Afghanistan" as they were tired of calling it "the kingdom of Caubol" as it was too long to pronounce (sounds idiotic doesn't it).

Ahmad Shah during his lifetime was recognized as "the lord of Khorasan", but he called himself an Afghan, subsequent Afghan rulers up until the time of Dost Mohammad were called the "the lords of Khorasan", then the British later recognized this region as "Afghanistan" because Pashtun rulers referred to themselves as Afghan (Pashtun).

And of course, Pakistan has as much right to Abdali as we do. In fact I would go so far as to say that its the same with Mohmmad of Ghor, Mahmud Ghaznavi, Sher Shah Suri and others, as all these monarchs ruled present day Afghanistan and Pakistan, I have no disagreements in that.

 

[Titanium100]

Ahmad Shah during his lifetime was recognized as "the lord of Khorasan", but he called himself an Afghan, subsequent Afghan rulers up until the time of Dost Mohammad were called the "the lords of Khorasan", then the British later recognized this region as "Afghanistan" because

And of course, Pakistan has as much right to Abdali as we do. In fact I would go so far as to say that its the same with Mohmmad of Ghor, Mahmud Ghaznavi, Sher Shah Suri and others, as all these monarchs ruled present day Afghanistan and Pakistan, I have no disagreements in that.

I agree with that later part

 

[Salmanov]

1st battle of Tarain and followed by the 2nd battle of Tarain. There is 1 year duration between both battles it is continuity of the same battle that happens again 1 year later.

Some background: At this point in History India was largely an unknown territory to the known world except few things written about them but nobody knew anything about them in greater detail until Mohamed of Ghor and his guys ventured into India. It initially started out as an adventure campaign but turned into bitter war and revenge. India had an incredible amount of wealth

1st Battle of Tarain ''91''

2nd Battle of Tarain ''92''

Why do you glorify a looters and criminals?!

 

[Salmanov]

Pakistan should be celebrating local Rajput-Gujjar Kshtriyas including Janjua Maharaja Jaypal of empire known as Hindu Shahi which ruled today's Pakistani punjab and Afghanistan Kabul for two hundred years till 1026AD rather than foreign origin Tajik and Turkic Ghoris and Gaznavis.




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Stockholm syndrome they celebrate why the Turks and afghans raped the Hindus but they forget these Hindus are their ancestors that’s mean they celebrate the rape of their own ancestors

Didn't Islam spread through missionaries instead of these invaders? And celebrating foreign invaders is kinda cringe. It would be like Iranians celebrating their loss in Arab conquest of Persia. Do they do that? Maybe the Iranian members here will have an answer.

Stockholm syndrome

 

[Juggernaut_Flat_Plane_V8]

Stockholm syndrome they celebrate why the Turks and afghans raped the Hindus but they forget these Hindus are their ancestors that’s mean they celebrate the rape of their own ancestors

Stockholm syndrome

Preach Brother....sometimes we need esteemed Arabs of the forum to set things straight

 

[Titanium100]

Stockholm syndrome they celebrate why the Turks and afghans raped the Hindus but they forget these Hindus are their ancestors that’s mean they celebrate the rape of their own ancestors

Stockholm syndrome

You got it totally wrong here when this incident happened the people of what is current day Afghanistan and Pakistan were muslims for 500 years and 200 years respectively. I am talking about the pashtuns, punjabis, tajiks and sindhis.. They were fighting on the side of Muhammed of Ghor.. They made his completely invasion of all india possible via later campaigns with the Delhi sultanate after the conquest of the North.