MSCI Downgrades Pakistan to Frontier Market After Four Years

[Desprado]

Nope we are not going to comply with IMF demands fully and still continue with the IMF.

The programme was never paused, Instead the consultation was ongoing. We were given 2 months to prove out point in revenue collection which we have done fairly well in.

A middle ground will be reached.

I personally will prefer PTI to not take any more hits because of plmn wrongs. If they get stuck on forcing us to pass plmn commission deals and incompetence on common consumers especially in the energy sector, either get guarantees of next term or quit IMF, we have sufficient reserves.

We will wana bet? We will do 100% what they say now because of 3 things.

1) Government uptake credit is high as 2018

2) CDS Risk going to same level as 2019

3) CAD commitment of 0.7% of budget singed by PM, FM and IMF.


IMF will give more hard conditions than before as our experiment of growth has failed.

 

[Patriot forever]

We will wana bet? We will do 100% what they say now because of 3 things.

1) Government uptake credit is high as 2018

2) CDS Risk going to same level as 2019

3) CAD commitment of 0.7% of budget singed by PM, FM and IMF.


IMF will give more hard conditions than before as our experiment of growth has failed.

None of these demands of increase hike is due to pti, this is due to plmn commission and corruption in energy sector.

CAD will be maintained in SBP defined target of 2-3%.

Growth momentum will be sustained whether IMF agrees or not.

 

[Desprado]

None of these demands of increase hike is due to pti, this is due to plmn commission and corruption in energy sector.

CAD will be maintained in SBP defined target of 2-3%.

Growth momentum will be sustained whether IMF agrees or not.

You dont know ? Lol Shaukat and Waqar Masod signed with IMF that we will max do CAD of 2.5 billion dollar that why SPAM Reveune resigned because we have to be committed with IMF. You are seeing same Shaukat Tarin of 2009.

 

[Patriot forever]

You dont know ? Lol Shaukat and Waqar Masod signed with IMF that we will max do CAD of 2.5 billion dollar that why SPAM Reveune resigned because we have to be committed with IMF. You are seeing same Shaukat Tarin of 2009.

IMF negotiations is still going on. As I said none of the power hike demand is due to PTI its because of plmn commission and corruption.

2-3% is our official target, whether IMF agrees to it or not

 

[Desprado]

IMF negotiations is still going on. As I said none of the power hike demand is due to PTI its because of plmn commission and corruption.

2-3% is our official target, whether IMF agrees to it or not

Cannot negotiate on signed Budget. They are lenders and we require money from them.

 

[Patriot forever]

Cannot negotiate on signed Budget. They are lenders and we require money from them.

We will find out soon enough. Either IMF or no IMF going forward.

 

[Desprado]

We will find out soon enough. Either IMF or no IMF going forward.

If no IMF than this government will collapse in October as it self because we have to pay 14.5 billion dollar this FY and all things prices are very high.

In our budget FM has said that we have planned to borrow 12.5 billion dollar from IMF, ADB, WB and AIIB alone this FY, which only be allowed if we do IMF program.

Sri Lanka has tried things without IMF and look where they are now. It is reference before us and their government and president is going to fall in Nov.

 

[Patriot forever]

If no IMF than this government will collapse in October as it self because we have to pay 14.5 billion dollar this FY and all things prices are very high.

In our budget FM has said that we have planned to borrow 12.5 billion dollar from IMF, ADB, WB and AIIB alone this FY, which only be allowed if we do IMF program.

Sri Lanka has tried things without IMF and look where they are now. It is reference before us and their government and president is going to fall in Nov.

Nope just do what plmn did in 2017 and 2018 unless given guarantees .

 

[Desprado]

Nope just do what plmn did in 2017 and 2018 unless given guarantees .

You mean to say PTI should take Pakistan back to 2017 to 2018 like PMLN did a mistake and given CAD of 19 billion dollar?

 

[Patriot forever]

You mean to say PTI should take Pakistan back to 2017 to 2018 like PMLN did a mistake and given CAD of 19 billion dollar?

Don't you support plmn for this exact same reason.

 

[Desprado]

Don't you support plmn for this exact same reason.

I support common sense. I do not support PPP PMLN or PTI.

But to me in external factors and trading and import.

PPP did much better than PTI and PMLN. Of course Shaukat Aziz was the best among all 3.

 

[Maula Jatt]

We went up during a pandemic when the entire planet had their economies turned upside down and if you are going to show your intellectual dishonesty and compare to Bangaldesh please do tell when did our exports start falling and which party was in power at that time?

He is an Indian and going by his trolling on Bangla forum

Do not engage with this, he turns every thread to s***

 

[313ghazi]

The problem is we are half arsing everything. Choose a strategy, identify the risks and mitigate them.

If we want to free float the rupee and keep it's value low to encourage exports, we need to work around the inflation that comes with it.

On this thread I've read coal is expensive - dig your own. I've heard steel is expensive - perfect time to reopen PSM under new ownership. Sell it for a single rupee to anyone willing to give Pakistan first refusal on upto 80% of produce at cost price.

Food inflation and unemployment - state owned farms, full vertical integration, farm to fork managed by private businesses in partnership with the state.
Undercut the food mafia.

Electricity shortages and circular debt. Smart meters and borrow to invest in electric infrastructure.

We want to drive exports but what us the chamber of commerce doing to facilitate that other than talking to the same old faces? Setup a SEO tasked to turn SME's into exporters. Help businesses make to ISO standards, help them get online, help them market. We've got plenty of educated youngsters who could be trained to become virtualisation assistants for these businesses.

TThey don't think big - they think the same incompetent business community who's sold raw materials for 70 years will drive the economy upwards and onwards.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Stock Purchasing options form US from offerings like PAK , ETF have had negligible impact
as you can see this ETF's total contribution has been only 24 Million Dollars

Roshan Digital Account is only Safe Mechanism to invest in Pakistan with 7-10% yield
Instead of ETF , you can pick your own companies if you decide to invest buy individual stocks or thru various Investment choices Pakistani Market offers you directly thru the Roshan Digital Account


I did searched US stock market in North America and this ETF was only mechanism which allows you to hold indirect investment in Pakistan , as most of other Investment choices do not place their funding in Pakistan

 

[Aesterix]

It's funny how we cry rivers about random statements from unknown insignificant entities.
Pakistan has a very large domestic market and economy is not export based.
They need our market, not the other way round.