Mozammel for confiscating Jamaat’s assets and asked Jammatis to go to Pakistan

[Joe Shearer]

Next time someone writes "busy as a bee", should it be considered an insult for equating a human with a bee?

See #4 in my post to you and to Neptune.

 

[Dubious]

What I get out of this exchange is the following:

1. Insults are to be reported, and not retaliated against;
2. Insults to individuals are objectionable;
3. Insults to groups are also objectionable.
4. Proverbs and expressions are to be selected such that there is not even an indirect reference to an individual member that may be construed as insulting.

@Mage
@Neptune

In general, the best way to deal with trolls is to ignore them. Not even a partial or deflective answer. At worst they can be reported for diverting the thread, IF they are diverting the thread.

Good you cracked the egg...Now please practice it also

REPORT and dont engage - IS THE KEY FORUM RULE!

 

[Mage]

So you are happy that at any moment in time, people can be picked up from their homes and labeled as traitors for the actions of their fathers and forefathers and be deported or killed?

Nothing like this will happen. No one was charged for crimes committed by their relatives. In a way BD govt is trying to establish one party state. So some opposition party members have been in made to disappear. But the numbers are few. And many of them can be attributed to political mob and not govts doing. But Govts measure to curb those have been very soft. But general public in BD doesn't get picked up. It will update have triggered a civil war.

You can say Hasina is trying to do what communist party in China did ina much larger scale.

 

[Dubious]

NOW everyone, please keep it civil!

 

[El Sidd]

Nothing like this will happen. No one was charged for crimes committed by their relatives. In a way BD govt is trying to establish one party state. So some opposition party members have been in made to disappear. But the numbers are few. And many of them can be attributed to political mob and not govts doing. But Govts measure to curb those have been very soft. But general public in BD doesn't get picked up. It will update have triggered a civil war.

You can say Hasina is trying to do what communist party in China did ina much larger scale.

I can understand Ms. Hasinas attempt to solidify her power in Bangladesh. Having brought the state at a point where one party rule will actually be good to the country in terms of political and financial stability. She is well within her rights to do that in Bangladesh.

Our objection is only for the continued anti Pak propaganda she continues to employ. She does not need that and nor does anyone else in the region.

 

[Dubious]

Keep to the title!

 

[Dubious]

But the troll inside me sometimes get outta control.

It is understandable....I like the negative button

I give up.

Good...get back to the topic

 

[Nilgiri]

There was a strong mercantile history in Bengal; none of it documented in terms of classic western style documentation, but vibrant enough in the legends of Chand Sodagor and Beulah. Nilgiri will not have known of this. On the other side, the Tamils adopted Brahmi in their own style, and that adoption may have been the basis of the south-east Asian adoption of Brahmi, since Tamil influence was very strong there; the Cholas claimed suzerainty over several parts of south-east Asia. R. C. Majumdar (as Bangladeshis will know, he was a Baidya of Bangladeshi stock) has written extensively on the south Asian influence in south-east Asia.

Interesting to know about Bengali connection too. You may know already that Tamils, Bengalis, Assamese, Thais, Burmese, Sri Lankans all have the same new year (testament to the older links forged in the formative eras around Bay of Bengal...i.e adoption/continued use of the older solar Hindu-Buddhist calendar).

Well before the Cholas btw, were the Pallavas who were probably instrumental in spread of Brahmi/Grantha script to South East Asia by trade:

http://skyknowledge.com/pallava.htm

This is also probably how Hinduism spread to the area first (adopted by the elites/rulers of the South East Asian Kingdoms especially). Then came the major spread of Buddhism which further strengthened the bonds to the script system. Then came the Cholas after that (who had made alliances with the Khmers and opened a front in honour of that alliance against the indonesian/malay Sri Vijaya empire who were fighting a sustained conflict for supremacy with the Khmer empire...especially given Sri Vijaya had increasing control of the trade routes between India and IndoChina/China). This led over time to decline of Sri Vijaya (Cholas later would ally them as well, but by that point Cholas were on the decline too). Eventually subsequent Majapahit kingdom would be the last major Indic/Dharmic style empire in Indonesia.

@Indos @Marine Rouge @trishna_amṛta

 

[Joe Shearer]

Interesting to know about Bengali connection too. You may know already that Tamils, Bengalis, Assamese, Thais, Burmese, Sri Lankans all have the same new year (testament to the older links forged in the formative eras around Bay of Bengal...i.e adoption/continued use of the older solar Hindu-Buddhist calendar).

Well before the Cholas btw, were the Pallavas who were probably instrumental in spread of Brahmi/Grantha script to South East Asia by trade:

http://skyknowledge.com/pallava.htm

This is also probably how Hinduism spread to the area first (adopted by the elites/rulers of the South East Asian Kingdoms especially). Then came the major spread of Buddhism which further strengthened the bonds to the script system. Then came the Cholas after that (who had made alliances with the Khmers and opened a front in honour of that alliance against the indonesian/malay Sri Vijaya empire who were fighting a sustained conflict for supremacy with the Khmer empire...especially given Sri Vijaya had increasing control of the trade routes between India and IndoChina/China). This led over time to decline of Sri Vijaya (Cholas later would ally them as well, but by that point Cholas were on the decline too). Eventually subsequent Majapahit kingdom would be the last major Indic/Dharmic style empire in Indonesia

@Indos @Marine Rouge @trishna_amṛta

http://www.rameshchandramajumdar.com/books/

 

[Bilal9]

I understand.

But BD needs to find a balance. There were those murders of some progressive bloggers and the attack on the Holey Artisan Bakery. This was just like in India where Sangh-affiliated activists murdered four progressives.

Young Bangladeshis should work actively to prevent the Jamaatis from taking over their country before it becomes Talibanized.

The mentality of majority in each country determines the success of extremists like the Taliban. Bangladeshis are majority too soft-spoken in their culture to accept and endorse extremists, whether Hindus or Muslims.

Religion in Bangladesh (esp. Islam) is not an organized activity, it is an intensely private activity by majority of the population. They abhor Islamic crazies and won't support them financially. Only support for Jamaatis comes from the Middle East and that is drying up as well. In my mind this is how it should be in Bangladesh and is. Unlike some other countries where people actively support extremists and their govt. made the mistake to encourage this behavior.

Extremism is helped by two factors,

1. Lack of education, and,
2. Lack of a livelihood.

Both are in short supply in today's Bangladesh. We are ahead of most places in the subcontinent in Education, poverty alleviation and Health indicators (certainly ahead of the BIMARU and cow belt trouble spots in India). So extremists won't find fertile ground in Bangladesh. The Govt. is also very vigilant.

Only a very minuscule portion of extremist Jamaatis are fighting for Shariah-rule in Bangladesh but they are under constant watch and monitoring.

Can't say the same about other places where poverty and lack of education combine to form a horribly volatile powder-keg, like in Afghanistan.

In one of the threads yesterday I showed places where the fertility rate is going through the roof, with people having 7-8 babies in a family (fertility factor of 3.8 on average for one female where Bangladesh' figure is around 2.1). A fertility factor of 3.8 per woman is unsustainable and a sure prescription for Talibanization.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

The mentality of majority in each country determines the success of extremists like the Taliban

Taliban are more than what Western propaganda presents them as. I view Kabul government as more extreme than them. Ditto for the governments of India and BD. Hate can never unite a country and will only lead to further divisions.

Can't say the same about other places where poverty and lack of education combine to form a horribly volatile powder-keg, like in Afghanistan.

You left out constant invasions by three global super powers (UK, Russia/USSR, and US) in the course of only 100 years.

 

[Mage]

@Dubious I reported these posts like 16 hours ago
@Joe Shearer

 

[Taimoor Khan]

@Dubious I reported these posts like 16 hours ago
@Joe Shearer

What is there to report? You keep your itch to yourself, don't bring our country good name in your internal matters, we will not find the need to respond to you rants.

 

[Trango Towers]

@Dubious I reported these posts like 16 hours ago
@Joe Shearer

Now you are a hero...go get a medal.

 

[Jobless Jack]

Lol

9 pages worth of discussion for a political statement meant to play on the emotions of the awami voters and to get their votes.

FFS people get a grip.