Mosques play Kurdish national anthem in support of PDKI Peshmerga Forces

[SALMAN F]

İsn't that general Ali???

We call him Ali chemicali here in the Netherlands

Yes he is he was the leader of the anfal campaign
The iraqi regime called it the heroic infal operations hhhhhhhhh

 

[IR1907]

Hey you guys cant get along with each other ? have a nice cup of tea and discuss everything in peace and friendship

 

[Al-Kurdi]

It is my mistake I'm arguing with a cave dweller. I repeat Genghis Khan's army was 80% Turkic. When Mongol empire broke down most of the state's were Turkic. We didn't move in and took advantage .. We did the actual work. You Kurds should worry about IS since if they continue like this they will kill all PKK, KRG, etc

Please state your source, "LOL Genghis Khans army was 80% Turkic"

Turks themselves say they left Altais because the Mongols chased them. And they took the momentum of Mongol expansion and spred like rats. Stealing others history is a Turkish speciality.

Deal.... come down from the mountains first.

On a second notice... during the operations took part in 1992-1993 we never used tanks,apcs, bullet proof vest....infact bullet proof vest can't stop a bullet from AK-47 so it is useless.

All we used in those operations are small caliber artillery, mortars, and Turkish soldier... as we were surrounding those mountains, it's meaningless to bombard the are as we would hit our own soldiers as well. I



What point ??? You were posting other nations heritage like your own....

one mistake

yeah right you just killed everything on your sight, I bet PKK would crush you

 

[-SINAN-]

one mistake
yeah right you just killed everything on your sight, I bet PKK would crush you

Oh, you are so green in this field..most of those operations happened in Northern Iraq Mountains....secluded places...

 

[usernameless]

Please state your source, "LOL Genghis Khans army was 80% Turkic"

Turks themselves say they left Altais because the Mongols chased them. And they took the momentum of Mongol expansion and spred like rats. Stealing others history is a Turkish speciality.

Turkics played a big role in the Mongolian empire. Just like how for example Persian engineers and Georgian armies also contributed to it. Turkics didnt flee at all, hence why there are still Turkic minorities close to the region we originated from in China, Russia and Mongolia, but also Turkic countries in CA.

So, if tomorrow a minority would stand up, claim the lands where Kurds live and as a reason they state 'we lived here before Kurds came' would you also look warm to their claim? I don't think so. Your reasoning is emotional and unrealistic, unfortunately the world doesnt work like that.

 

[Al-Kurdi]

Oh, you are so green in this field..most of those operations happened in Northern Iraq Mountains....secluded places...

Let me give you a reminder, dude ARGK were active all over Northern Kurdistan.

Li Bagoke: A Kurdish liberation song

This song commemorates a historical event which took place in Turkey in 1988. We have included it because the woman named in the song -- Ayten Tekin (Rojin) -- is a relation of one of our singers.

The following is an account of the events, taken from the Internet:
_________________________

In April 1988, 20 fighters, members of the People's Liberation Army of Kurdistan (ARGK) lost their lives after they put up a big fight against the Turkish army. The battle took place at Bagok mountain. It was the greatest conflict involving the the Turkish military and the ARGK fighters, who found themselves encircled by thousands of soldiers and village guards (korucu). It was perhaps the first great battle of the pro-Ocalan forces.

The words of the song say: "Çiyayê bagokê bi dar e / Leşker hat ser bi hezar e / Li wir bu bû axir dewran / Li ser serê çend hevalan"
[Bagok Mountain is forested / soldiers came there in their thousands / to fight against a handful of comrades.]

On 31 March thousands of Turkish miliitary personnel were deployed against the guerrillas positioned in the lower part of Bagok mountain, to the north of Nusaybin. Somebody had informed on them. The soldiers had been deployed to the area from Mardin, Nusaybin and Midyat during the day, completing their preparations during the evening hours for the operation that was planned to take place the next day. Thousands of non-military personnel who knew Bagok were brought to the theatre of operations alongside the Turkish soldiers.

On the morning of 1 April 1988, Turkish troops, supported by helicopters and fighter aircrafts, sent a patrol into Efse village close to Bagok mountain. The soldiers entered at exactly the point where the ARGK guerrillas were positioned. Caught by surprise by the guerrillas' defensive gunfire, they were forced to retreat, sustaining many casualties in the process.

After a short period of panic the Turkish commanders surrounded the area from all sides with thousands of soldiers. Their purpose was to annihilate the ARGK guerrillas in a short period of time under intense fire.

The commander of the ARGK guerrillas was Veli Yasar (Delil), who had joined PKK while involved in political activity. He was from Halfeti. His family had moved to Antep when he was very young. He had encountered exploitation and labour at a young age, which is also when he met PKK. After the 12th September coup he had left the country, but then became active in the guerrilla groups which returned to the country in 1983 and carried out activities in Cukurca, Pervari, Siirt, Bitlis and Garzan until 1986.

He was an experienced guerrilla who had taken part in many battles. At this time he was actually on his way to Garzan, which was his own area of activity. However, he had taken on the task of training newly-recruited ARGK fighters in Mardin before going to Garzan. He trained 30 new recruits in 45 days.

The area encircled by the Turkish army was where the recruits had been training with the ARGK. The guerrilla units had just completed the ceremony of the oath of allegiance, and had not yet left the area.

Delil was accompanied by Mustafa Kaplan (Kazim) and 18 new ARGK fighters. This was the group encountered by the initial Turkish patrol. The other guerrilla groups took advantage of the panic of the soldiers and fought their way out of the area of operation. In a sense, the group led by Delil sacrificed themselves for the other ARGK fighters. The group also included Ayten Tekin (Rojin) from Bingol-Karliova, who had joined PKK only 23 days previously.

if it would have been for your masters, teh American who literally poured weapons to your army you wouldn't in reality stand a chance, even if you destroyed over 6000 and massacred civilians which is all you know you would still be defeated.

Turkics played a big role in the Mongolian empire. Just like how for example Persian engineers and Georgian armies also contributed to it. Turkics didnt flee at all, hence why there are still Turkic minorities close to the region we originated from in China, Russia and Mongolia, but also Turkic countries in CA.

So, if tomorrow a minority would stand up, claim the lands where Kurds live and as a reason they state 'we lived here before Kurds came' would you also look warm to their claim? I don't think so. Your reasoning is emotional and unrealistic, unfortunately the world doesnt work like that.

Man you are claming the Mongol Army consisted of 80% turkic tribes, give a soruce for that because the fact is "Turks themselves say they left Altais because the Mongols chased them. And they took the momentum of Mongol expansion and spread like rats."

 

[-SINAN-]

Let me give you a reminder, dude ARGK were active all over Northern Kurdistan.

Li Bagoke: A Kurdish liberation song

This song commemorates a historical event which took place in Turkey in 1988. We have included it because the woman named in the song -- Ayten Tekin (Rojin) -- is a relation of one of our singers.

The following is an account of the events, taken from the Internet:
_________________________

In April 1988, 20 fighters, members of the People's Liberation Army of Kurdistan (ARGK) lost their lives after they put up a big fight against the Turkish army. The battle took place at Bagok mountain. It was the greatest conflict involving the the Turkish military and the ARGK fighters, who found themselves encircled by thousands of soldiers and village guards (korucu). It was perhaps the first great battle of the pro-Ocalan forces.

The words of the song say: "Çiyayê bagokê bi dar e / Leşker hat ser bi hezar e / Li wir bu bû axir dewran / Li ser serê çend hevalan"
[Bagok Mountain is forested / soldiers came there in their thousands / to fight against a handful of comrades.]

On 31 March thousands of Turkish miliitary personnel were deployed against the guerrillas positioned in the lower part of Bagok mountain, to the north of Nusaybin. Somebody had informed on them. The soldiers had been deployed to the area from Mardin, Nusaybin and Midyat during the day, completing their preparations during the evening hours for the operation that was planned to take place the next day. Thousands of non-military personnel who knew Bagok were brought to the theatre of operations alongside the Turkish soldiers.

On the morning of 1 April 1988, Turkish troops, supported by helicopters and fighter aircrafts, sent a patrol into Efse village close to Bagok mountain. The soldiers entered at exactly the point where the ARGK guerrillas were positioned. Caught by surprise by the guerrillas' defensive gunfire, they were forced to retreat, sustaining many casualties in the process.

After a short period of panic the Turkish commanders surrounded the area from all sides with thousands of soldiers. Their purpose was to annihilate the ARGK guerrillas in a short period of time under intense fire.

The commander of the ARGK guerrillas was Veli Yasar (Delil), who had joined PKK while involved in political activity. He was from Halfeti. His family had moved to Antep when he was very young. He had encountered exploitation and labour at a young age, which is also when he met PKK. After the 12th September coup he had left the country, but then became active in the guerrilla groups which returned to the country in 1983 and carried out activities in Cukurca, Pervari, Siirt, Bitlis and Garzan until 1986.

He was an experienced guerrilla who had taken part in many battles. At this time he was actually on his way to Garzan, which was his own area of activity. However, he had taken on the task of training newly-recruited ARGK fighters in Mardin before going to Garzan. He trained 30 new recruits in 45 days.

The area encircled by the Turkish army was where the recruits had been training with the ARGK. The guerrilla units had just completed the ceremony of the oath of allegiance, and had not yet left the area.

Delil was accompanied by Mustafa Kaplan (Kazim) and 18 new ARGK fighters. This was the group encountered by the initial Turkish patrol. The other guerrilla groups took advantage of the panic of the soldiers and fought their way out of the area of operation. In a sense, the group led by Delil sacrificed themselves for the other ARGK fighters. The group also included Ayten Tekin (Rojin) from Bingol-Karliova, who had joined PKK only 23 days previously.

if it would have been for your masters, teh American who literally poured weapons to your army you wouldn't in reality stand a chance, even if you destroyed over 6000 and massacred civilians which is all you know you would still be defeated.

 

[Al-Kurdi]

Yes he is he was the leader of the anfal campaign
The iraqi regime called it the heroic infal operations hhhhhhhhh

Please what are you crying about you retarded cunt, Saddam killed hundred thousands of your kind aswell you idiot. Difference between us is atleast we fought, we liberated Erbil and Kirkuk, wtf did you shias do besides fishing along your rivers?

 

[usernameless]

Let me give you a reminder, dude ARGK were active all over Northern Kurdistan.

Li Bagoke: A Kurdish liberation song

This song commemorates a historical event which took place in Turkey in 1988. We have included it because the woman named in the song -- Ayten Tekin (Rojin) -- is a relation of one of our singers.

The following is an account of the events, taken from the Internet:
_________________________

In April 1988, 20 fighters, members of the People's Liberation Army of Kurdistan (ARGK) lost their lives after they put up a big fight against the Turkish army. The battle took place at Bagok mountain. It was the greatest conflict involving the the Turkish military and the ARGK fighters, who found themselves encircled by thousands of soldiers and village guards (korucu). It was perhaps the first great battle of the pro-Ocalan forces.

The words of the song say: "Çiyayê bagokê bi dar e / Leşker hat ser bi hezar e / Li wir bu bû axir dewran / Li ser serê çend hevalan"
[Bagok Mountain is forested / soldiers came there in their thousands / to fight against a handful of comrades.]

On 31 March thousands of Turkish miliitary personnel were deployed against the guerrillas positioned in the lower part of Bagok mountain, to the north of Nusaybin. Somebody had informed on them. The soldiers had been deployed to the area from Mardin, Nusaybin and Midyat during the day, completing their preparations during the evening hours for the operation that was planned to take place the next day. Thousands of non-military personnel who knew Bagok were brought to the theatre of operations alongside the Turkish soldiers.

On the morning of 1 April 1988, Turkish troops, supported by helicopters and fighter aircrafts, sent a patrol into Efse village close to Bagok mountain. The soldiers entered at exactly the point where the ARGK guerrillas were positioned. Caught by surprise by the guerrillas' defensive gunfire, they were forced to retreat, sustaining many casualties in the process.

After a short period of panic the Turkish commanders surrounded the area from all sides with thousands of soldiers. Their purpose was to annihilate the ARGK guerrillas in a short period of time under intense fire.

The commander of the ARGK guerrillas was Veli Yasar (Delil), who had joined PKK while involved in political activity. He was from Halfeti. His family had moved to Antep when he was very young. He had encountered exploitation and labour at a young age, which is also when he met PKK. After the 12th September coup he had left the country, but then became active in the guerrilla groups which returned to the country in 1983 and carried out activities in Cukurca, Pervari, Siirt, Bitlis and Garzan until 1986.

He was an experienced guerrilla who had taken part in many battles. At this time he was actually on his way to Garzan, which was his own area of activity. However, he had taken on the task of training newly-recruited ARGK fighters in Mardin before going to Garzan. He trained 30 new recruits in 45 days.

The area encircled by the Turkish army was where the recruits had been training with the ARGK. The guerrilla units had just completed the ceremony of the oath of allegiance, and had not yet left the area.

Delil was accompanied by Mustafa Kaplan (Kazim) and 18 new ARGK fighters. This was the group encountered by the initial Turkish patrol. The other guerrilla groups took advantage of the panic of the soldiers and fought their way out of the area of operation. In a sense, the group led by Delil sacrificed themselves for the other ARGK fighters. The group also included Ayten Tekin (Rojin) from Bingol-Karliova, who had joined PKK only 23 days previously.

if it would have been for your masters, teh American who literally poured weapons to your army you wouldn't in reality stand a chance, even if you destroyed over 6000 and massacred civilians which is all you know you would still be defeated.

Man you are claming the Mongol Army consisted of 80% turkic tribes, give a soruce for that because the fact is "Turks themselves say they left Altais because the Mongols chased them. And they took the momentum of Mongol expansion and spread like rats."

I never claimed that 80%, but fact is Turkic and Mongolian tribes united and created the Mongolian empire under Mongolian leaders.
The difference is you're making it sound as if Turkics backstabbed and stole Mongolian empires achievements while the Turkics (with assistance from Mongolians) themselves conquered those regions by themselves under the name of Mongolian empire. Ever wondered why there are no Mongols in CA Turkic countries or in the ME anymore?
You claim Turks fled from Mongols, ever wondered why there are still many Turkics in China, Russia and Mongolia and in CA? Get this difference in your thick skull. Use logic for a change.

 

[Targon]

@Al-Kurdi

-Mongols created new Tumens(military units) out of the newly subjugated tribes, so its true that a big deal of the Mongol army was consisted of Turkics, not to mention Mongolian dynasties are rapidly Turkicized.

-Who left Altai ? Altai Mountains are still inhabited by Turkic peoples, some Turkic tribes were part of the conquering Mongol military some were not, just like rest of the middle eastern peoples, some of the tribes preferred to flee west instead of joining Mongols.

-What exactly you mean they took the advantage of momentum of Mongol conquests ? for example ? Western steppes were already conquered by Turkic tribes, large part of Mid east as well, Turks were already in Anatolia long before Mongols are even united, and the remaining western parts are conquered by Turks again, in fact its Kurds who took the momentum of Turkic advance in Anatolia , following the gap Turks opened many Kurds spread into further west and northern west in Anatolia.

 

[SALMAN F]

Please what are you crying about you retarded cunt, Saddam killed hundred thousands of your kind aswell you idiot. Difference between us is atleast we fought, we liberated Erbil and Kirkuk, wtf did you shias do besides fishing along your rivers?

He tough animals like you important listen to stateless gypsies
Iraqi governments were wrong when they were nice to you they should treated like the Syria iran and turkey every time Iraq do good to you
You backstabb Iraq
you only liberated Kirkuk and Arbil in your dreams it was the Americans
Beside the shia in the south didnt get help or were organized and they didnt have leaders to lead the uprising
You always claim the achievements of other
Do remember the war between talabani and barzani when talabani was about to win the war barzani the dog begged saddam to save him
he had to run away from Arbil but when iraqi republican gaurd entered Arbil talabani ran like a coward
Don't forget that talabani and barzani worked together with the islamic regime in iran against you and they worked with turkey as well against the abdul shaitan ocalan
And don't forget that your kind love israel and israel who hundred ocalan over to turkey

 

[Al-Kurdi]

He tough animals like you important listen to stateless gypsies
Iraqi governments were wrong when they were nice to you they should treated like the Syria iran and turkey every time Iraq do good to you
You backstabb Iraq
you only liberated Kirkuk and Arbil in your dreams it was the Americans
Beside the shia in the south didnt get help or were organized and they didnt have leaders to lead the uprising
You always claim the achievements of other
Do remember the war between talabani and barzani when talabani was about to win the war barzani the dog begged saddam to save him
he had to run away from Arbil but when iraqi republican gaurd entered Arbil talabani ran like a coward
Don't forget that talabani and barzani worked together with the islamic regime in iran against you and they worked with turkey as well against the abdul shaitan ocalan
And don't forget that your kind love israel and israel who hundred ocalan over to turkey

Do u actaully belive I will read what some fucking hezbollah piece of shit is saying?

 

[SALMAN F]

Do u actaully belive I will read what some fucking hezbollah piece of shit is saying?

I know the truth hurts specially for stateless animals who claim other land and history and civilizations as theirs but in reality they are cavemen who don't even have their own alphabet
By the way it was Hezbollah members who eliminated khara kandi in Berlin aka sharafkindi the ape and the caveman like they eliminated the dog ghassemlou before him hhhhhhhhh
now get lost mountain ape

 

[SALMAN F]

Turkics played a big role in the Mongolian empire. Just like how for example Persian engineers and Georgian armies also contributed to it. Turkics didnt flee at all, hence why there are still Turkic minorities close to the region we originated from in China, Russia and Mongolia, but also Turkic countries in CA.

So, if tomorrow a minority would stand up, claim the lands where Kurds live and as a reason they state 'we lived here before Kurds came' would you also look warm to their claim? I don't think so. Your reasoning is emotional and unrealistic, unfortunately the world doesnt work like that.

They already did this to Syriacs and Assyrians when they said they lived in these areas before kurds they started to insult them and cursed them

 

[usernameless]

They already did this to Syriacs and Assyrians when they said they lived in these areas before kurds they started to insult them and cursed them

Sometimes i really think that some of these Kurds, but especially pkk ones, are brainwashed by their parents or community. always same cliche arguments, no tolerance for others' opinion, always Kurds are in the victim role, Kurds always are correct blabla, and if they lose they start getting aggressive or swear at others.