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In a historic precedent for the Moroccan army, France is preparing to sell the giant warplane "Foch" to Rabat, in a huge deal.

According to the 'week', the aircraft carrier, which Brazil withdrew from its navy, will go to Morocco under five undisclosed terms.

The French-made aircraft carrier has expired and French forces are preparing to destroy or sell it to Morocco.

The aircraft carrier had operated in Brazil as Sao Paulo.


https://www.rue20.com/مصدر-المغرب-يستعدُ-لشراء-حاملة-طائرات/


*The source is not strong but the possibility is there..I am puzzled with what Morocco can do with an Aircraft Carrier!!!?
 
The São Paulo began life as the French aircraft carrier Foch. It served for 37 years until it was replaced by the nuclear-powered carrier Charles de Gaulle. Brazil bought the vessel from the French government in 2000. More than 860 feet long and displacing 32,000 tons fully loaded, the carrier was capable of carrying up to 39 fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters. Here's a video of the ship operating in 2002:


Once in Brazilian hands, São Paulo underwent a refurbishment program that included repairs to propulsion, electricity generation, and flight operations equipment. The Brazilian Navy also purchased a fleet of obsolete A-4 Skyhawk jets from Kuwait, and used even more obsolete aircraft on board including the S-2 Tracker and C-1 Trader. There are American designs originally flown from U.S. Navy carriers but retired decades ago. Brazil's Navy also purchased and planned to refurbish six S-70B Seahawk helicopters.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a25260/brazil-retiring-only-aircraft-carrier/

São Paulo was a Clemenceau-class aircraft carrier in service with the Brazilian Navy. São Paulo was first commissioned in 1963 by the French Navy as Foch and was transferred in 2000 to Brazil, where she became the new flagship of the Brazilian Navy. IHS Jane's reported that during its career with the Brazilian Navy, São Paulo suffered from serviceability issues and never managed to operate for more than three months at a time without the need for repairs and maintenance.[3] On 14 February 2017, the navy announced the ship's demobilisation and subsequent decommissioning.[1]

Upgrade (2005–2010) and sea trials


View of the forward flight deck of the Brazilian aircraft carrier São Paulo in 2003. Four McDonnell Douglas AF-1 (A-4) Skyhawk fighters and an Argentine Navy Grumman S-2T Tracker are visible.


São Paulo at sea, December 2013.

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During 2005–10, São Paulo underwent extensive modernization.[11] The upgrade included inspection and repair of the steam turbines; maintenance of the surface condensers; retubing of boilers; repair of two high-pressure compressors; revision of the AC electrical generator; purchase of spare parts; maintenance of pumps, valves, and structural items; addition of two API oil-water separators; installation of two water cooling units; upgrade of the chemical oxygen generator; repair and treatment of oil tanks; substitution of the Naval Tactical Data System; installation of a closed-circuit television system; installation of an IFF transponder; installation of a MAGE system (ESM); flight deck inspection, repair, and painting; upgrade of the Optical Landing System processing unit; and revision of the aircraft catapults.[14] The upgrade was completed in July 2009, and the São Paulo was initially due to be fully operational by August 2010.[15]

Twelve Brazilian Navy A-4 Skyhawks were also scheduled to be upgraded by Embraer at a cost of $140 million.[16] The upgrade was similar to the ones done for the AMX and F-5EM aircraft of the Brazilian Air Force. The program included restoring the aircraft and their current systems, as well as implementing new avionics, radar (specifically the Elta 2032 radar system), power production, and autonomous oxygen generating systems. Possible weapons to be included in the upgrade were MAA-1B, Python 4, and Derby AAMS.

The Brazilian Navy contracted Marsh Aviation to convert four S-2T Turbo Trackers to an airborne early warning (AEW) configuration, and four more for tanking and Carrier Onboard Delivery duties.[17]

According to an article in the October 2010 issue of Air Forces Monthly,[citation needed] it has been confirmed that Brazil has purchased ex-Australian and ex-Uruguayan C-1 Trader airframes, for conversion into AEW planes and Tanker aircraft. All of the planes were to be upgraded to S-2T Turbo Tracker configuration with Honeywell TPE 331-14GR engines. The purchase included nine airframes, of which two were for tanker conversion to refuel the AF-1 Skyhawks, and three were for AEW. The rest were purchased as for spares or for cargo duties. The AEW radar requirement was to have a range of 250 miles at 25,000 feet. Operational lifespan for the airframes was to be 10 years. They were expected to be ready in 2011 and 2012.[18]

São Paulo's SH-3 helicopter fleet was to be replaced by six S-70B Seahawk helicopters. They were purchased in 2008, upgraded, and refurbished for delivery. The helicopters and a package of engines and support equipment were scheduled for delivery in 2009.[19]

At the end of 2010, sea trials began, and as of 2011 São Paulo had been evaluated by the CIASA (Inspection Commission and Training Advisory).


São Paulo was expected to rejoin the fleet in late 2013, but suffered another major fire in 2012.[20] As of September 2016, she continued to undergo repairs; the commander of the Brazilian Navy, Admiral Eduardo Leal Ferreira, said plans were in place to renew the carrier's propulsion system. The ship's catapult was also reported to have problems.[21] On 14 February 2017, the Navy announced the ship would be demobilised and subsequently decommissioned, citing the uneconomical cost of further repairs.[1][22]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_aircraft_carrier_São_Paulo_(A12)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazilian_aircraft_carrier_São_Paulo_(A12)
 
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Brazil had decided it's not economically feasible to repair this carrier. Known for many explosions and fires.
 
I see a lot of kickbacks and corruption opportunities because it doesn't make any sense for Morocco...I know they have conflicts with Algeria over Western Sahara and some times Spain flex muscle but both do need an ACC to fight with.
 
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I see a lot of kickbacks and corruption opportunities because it does make any sense for Morocco...I know they have conflicts with Algeria over Western Sahara and some times Spain flex muscle but both do need an ACC to fight with.
yeah, they launch randis at their enemies and corrupt them & make them lose money!
 
Really ....what for?
Knowledge.
After all... The world said the Same When China purchased their first one from Ukraine...

If only this news is true.... Such AC is interesting to future acquisition/Knowledge for the Navy/Naval Industry etc... And it will be cheap... So why not...
 
Knowledge.
After all... The world said the Same When China purchased their first one from Ukraine...

If only this news is true.... Such AC is interesting to future acquisition/Knowledge for the Navy/Naval Industry etc... And it will be cheap... So why not...

They may end up selling it to China for floating casino. ;)
 
Knowledge.
After all... The world said the Same When China purchased their first one from Ukraine...

If only this news is true.... Such AC is interesting to future acquisition/Knowledge for the Navy/Naval Industry etc... And it will be cheap... So why not...
I see... that's an interesting POV but still I mean..they have no power to project anywhere,,, I personally think a country should be nuke power before it gets an ACC. Even Pakistan has not shown interest.
 
I see... that's an interesting POV but still I mean..they have no power to project anywhere,,, I personally think a country should be nuke power before it gets an ACC. Even Pakistan has not shown interest.

Well, many Countries do have/will have ACs without having any "Strategic" use neither got Nuclear assets.
Ex: Brazil/Thailand/Qatar/Algeria or Even Turkey. They don't need "Projection" and yet have it and many others will follow.

But Having one is interesting, ofc having one just for the sake of it, is stupid. But I'm sure they have a need for it (If the news is true ofc).
It will be Cheap, Good for Training and it's structure could be useful in the future. In The End it's an interesting deal.

Ps: will mostly be used as a LHD
 
its worthless man Launched in 23 July 1960 and today its almost 60 years old . anyone wasting money on it will be welcome by france .

this is not sao polo image its modern french flag ship Charles de Gaulle

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its worthless man Launched in 23 July 1960 and today its almost 60 years old . anyone wasting money on it will be welcome by france .

this is not sao polo image its modern french flag ship Charles de Gaulle

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The Sao Paolo
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Brazil paid $30 million for it in 2000.. it must be less now! it is still less expansive than an apartment in Manhattan!!!

I am not sure what Morroco can do with an AC but it has long sea shores on the Atlantic.. and if it is willing to put in $500 million, it can be functional and thus a good deal.. mostly if it is bought with all those obsolete airplanes, tankers and helis.. it can be a good platform for training pilots on short take off and landing.. it is not to project power for sure..And there are 5 conditions for the purchase that are still unknown..!?

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Her dimensions include an overall length of 869 feet, a beam of 104 feet and a draught of 28 feet. She displaces at 36,160 tons under load and power is by way of six boiler systems feeding four steam turbines driving twin shafts with an output of 126,000 horsepower. This allows the vessel to make headway at 32 knots and reach out to ranges nearing 7,500 nautical miles. Her complete crew complement is 1,920 personnel made up of 1,274 sailors and 64 officers. Her air arm numbers up to 582 personnel.

https://www.militaryfactory.com/ships/detail.asp?ship_id=BNS-Sao-Paulo
 
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