More Troops for KSA: The reason behind PM's recent Visit to KSA

[Gazi]

Ofcourse IRAN is too big fish to fry which they cannot cut due to Shia leadership.

They have to roll back the terror group like qaida, taliban, JI, JUD, LET, LEJ, isis and dozens more which they created by spending billions and interestingly they all will bite back. Good luck Saudi

There is one Weakness as well and that is Persian Nationalism. I heard that Ahmadinejad was well respected among Iranian not because of his Aggressive Foreign Policies but rather Pride in Persian Heritage of Iran and that was not a favorite thing for Iranian Shia Theocracy so he was considered Moderate Force in Iran while Current Iran PM is well in line with Iranian Theocracy. So Promoting Persian Nationalism is a way but for Arabs this would be worse Idea because they are also promoting Arab Peninsula Based Bedouin Nationalism which is direct in conflict with Persian one since Khilafat when Sassanian were taken over.

It is interesting the Terrorists want to establish their Un-Islamic states in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Yemen instead of SAUDI Arabia. It is laughable and pity they now considering to start from Saudi Arabia.

So Let Saudi try their last card too : nato+turkey+pak.

ISIS have also said against Saudi Regime as well in fact about Makkah and Medina as well so they are against Saudis in the region but others are just PROXIES rather then a ORGANIZED ARMIES while what Iranians have built in Arab World is ORGANIZED ARMED FORCE like Structure with Examples like Mehdi Army, Hizbullah, Houthis etc. They are not easy to control so Saudis have to make a huge sacrifice in their Position towards ISIS if they want to Achieve anything. Even that wont answer the question of Persian Gulf because all Saudi Oil Supply depends on it and Iran does have Capability to Choak that.

 

[B@KH]

There is one Weakness as well and that is Persian Nationalism. I heard that Ahmadinejad was well respected among Iranian not because of his Aggressive Foreign Policies but rather Pride in Persian Heritage of Iran and that was not a favorite thing for Iranian Shia Theocracy so he was considered Moderate Force in Iran while Current Iran PM is well in line with Iranian Theocracy. So Promoting Persian Nationalism is a way but for Arabs this would be worse Idea because they are also promoting Arab Peninsula Based Bedouin Nationalism which is direct in conflict with Persian one since Khilafat when Sassanian were taken over.

ISIS have also said against Saudi Regime as well in fact about Makkah and Medina as well so they are against Saudis in the region but others are just PROXIES rather then a ORGANIZED ARMIES while what Iranians have built in Arab World is ORGANIZED ARMED FORCE like Structure with Examples like Mehdi Army, Hizbullah, Houthis etc. They are not easy to control so Saudis have to make a huge sacrifice in their Position towards ISIS if they want to Achieve anything. Even that wont answer the question of Persian Gulf because all Saudi Oil Supply depends on it and Iran does have Capability to Choak that.

Nationalism is not a bad thing and not the reason of conflicts. Arabs, Persian, Turks will remain, their nationalism will remain. It is not logical to connect nationalism to conflicts. It is intolerance, injustice, rejection and occupation that is the reason of conflicts.

The Saudi is not against IRAN due to arab or Persian nationalism or shiism. It was all normal before the Islamic Revolution.

Saudi+Allies get shocked due to success of Islamic revolution in IRAN as Shiites in Asian part of middle east are not a minority and they all fear revolts in their own countries too. they even imported millions of immigrants from all over the world to GCC and West started huge investments in desert nations which is now called GCC.

They started creating proxies and even invaded new born Islamic IRAN. they tried to bring fake revolutions in arab countries but that all backfired.

It is NOW again clear that despite wars, sanctions, threats, killings, the Shiites cannot be marginalized as they are not a minority but are significant communities.

So Saudi+nato allies has to decide what to do with their proxies isil, Qaida, Taliban, let, jud, ji, lej and dozens more they created to counter Shiites.

If they want to use their last card turkey+pak+nato, they should try that too. That will also be a failure.

Those who support Saudi are Either intolerant Or they do not understand the nature of conflict and blame nationalism.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

Well if this is true then it will only give the Arabs and Israel to get rid of NPT & CTBT. This would also start a new atomic age though it would be under the cover of peaceful use of nuclear technology for civilian use.

 

[B@KH]

Arab World is heading for Major change and No one can stop it.

Israel has everything and is not part of npt/ctbt.

Rest of the nuclear powers will kill each other.

so nothing to worry. the only issue is Israel.

 

[Gazi]

Nationalism is not a bad thing and not the reason of conflicts. Arabs, Persian, Turks will remain, their nationalism will remain. It is not logical to connect nationalism to conflicts. It is intolerance, injustice, rejection and occupation that is the reason of conflicts.

Iranian's Persian Nationalism is the only Counter against Iranian Shia Theocratic Regime. Shias Leadership dont like Praises of Persian Empire because it was Muslims that got rid of that in past History and also because they are the ones who got rid of last regime based on Nationalism in Iran. It is also believed to be against Islam as well. So various reasons here but it is not a bad thing in general although it is bad thing when we discuss Iranian Regime.

The Saudi is not against IRAN due to arab or Persian nationalism or shiism. It was all normal before the Islamic Revolution.

Saudi+Allies get shocked due to success of Islamic revolution in IRAN as Shiites in Asian part of middle east are not a minority and they all fear revolts in their own countries too. they even imported millions of immigrants from all over the world to GCC and West started huge investments in desert nations which is now called GCC.

The reason for that Good Relation was that Saudis under King Faisal were Interested in Pan Islamic alliance but now they have turned their Back on it and their Policies are more towards Bedouin Nationalism rather then Pan Islamic one. That is why Persian Nationalism centric Shah of Iran had good Relations with them. The Shia Regime of Iran Present another huge Problem as large population of Arab World are also Shia so their Loyalties had been shifting towards their Religious Base rather then their Regional or Cultural Base that brings Competition and Conflict of Interest in Arab World today.

They started creating proxies and even invaded new born Islamic IRAN. they tried to bring fake revolutions in arab countries but that all backfired.

It is NOW again clear that despite wars, sanctions, threats, killings, the Shiites cannot be marginalized as they are not a minority but are significant communities.

So Saudi+nato allies has to decide what to do with their proxies isil, Qaida, Taliban, let, jud, ji, lej and dozens more they created to counter Shiites.

If they want to use their last card turkey+pak+nato, they should try that too. That will also be a failure.

Those who support Saudi are Either intolerant Or they do not understand the nature of conflict and blame nationalism.

Saudis and Arabs as a whole are FLEXING their Muscles indeed by adjusting the Oil Prices to its Lowest that even Iran wont be able to Compete causing their Economy to COLLAPSE because Sanctions have done a huge damage Already and by Directly Competing against the largest Commodity that Iran Exports would further make Iranian Situation worse then it already is. This whole NATO+Egypt+Israel+Pakistan is just a CONTINGENCY rather then PREFERRED CHOICE so things are not very good for Iran and their is a Possibility that Iran would accept USA and EU Demands sooner then Later.

 

[IHK_PK]

why PM of Pakistan is not announcing his policy ......

 

[rubyjackass]

Things are changing quite fast here and it looks like Saudia has decided to show its own Muscle against Iran if USA is not Interested. Now they are gathering Leaders from around the region and asking for what Leverage these Countries can Provide like from Turkey its more of Israel Turkey Relations maybe from Egypt it would be Russia whos President visited few weeks ago and from Pakistan it would be China. So might be its part of Encirclement Scheme and gaining Leverage scheme here against Iran.

Looks like that. The new king met Turkish, Jordanian and Egyptian leaders also. They basically want to sqeeze Iran and its allies(Syria, Iraq, Lebanon). Just look at the map. Its a containment strategy for Iran.

 

[Zarvan]

It is NOW Too late to destroy and defeat IRAN.

War, Sanctions, Assassinations, color revolt, coup, terrorism, Threats all have Failed.

Saudi+Turkey+Pak is the last card.

But Pakistanis will not die for Saudi.
Even USA hesitates saudi+israeli alliance against IRAN

Let us them use the Last card but what after then?

Saudis and Iran will never go to war we would just provide nuclear tech and other warheads to them as for KSA if they get involved in war we would fight along them

 

[The SC]

Why not just some debriefings of the New king with the closest allies on ongoing and new policies.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Good for Pakistan from economic and strategic point of view.

 

[Zibago]

 

[B@KH]

Iranian's Persian Nationalism is the only Counter against Iranian Shia Theocratic Regime. Shias Leadership dont like Praises of Persian Empire because it was Muslims that got rid of that in past History and also because they are the ones who got rid of last regime based on Nationalism in Iran. It is also believed to be against Islam as well. So various reasons here but it is not a bad thing in general although it is bad thing when we discuss Iranian Regime.

The reason for that Good Relation was that Saudis under King Faisal were Interested in Pan Islamic alliance but now they have turned their Back on it and their Policies are more towards Bedouin Nationalism rather then Pan Islamic one. That is why Persian Nationalism centric Shah of Iran had good Relations with them. The Shia Regime of Iran Present another huge Problem as large population of Arab World are also Shia so their Loyalties had been shifting towards their Religious Base rather then their Regional or Cultural Base that brings Competition and Conflict of Interest in Arab World today.

Saudis and Arabs as a whole are FLEXING their Muscles indeed by adjusting the Oil Prices to its Lowest that even Iran wont be able to Compete causing their Economy to COLLAPSE because Sanctions have done a huge damage Already and by Directly Competing against the largest Commodity that Iran Exports would further make Iranian Situation worse then it already is. This whole NATO+Egypt+Israel+Pakistan is just a CONTINGENCY rather then PREFERRED CHOICE so things are not very good for Iran and their is a Possibility that Iran would accept USA and EU Demands sooner then Later.

This is not new and nothing special. Saudi has to do something after failure of >3 decades. These are all expected moves.

Let them try their last card too. Nato+Egypt+Israel+pak.

It will be helpful for Pakistanis as it will result in cleansing Saudi lovers and will result in the Rise of Powerful Hezbullah in Pakistan. Enough is Enough.

Saudis and Iran will never go to war we would just provide nuclear tech and other warheads to them as for KSA if they get involved in war we would fight along them

Saudi is not country. It is just a proxy like Israel. It will return to its people sooner or later. Any war against IRAN will help cleansing Saudi lovers from Pakistan.

 

[Gazi]

This is not new and nothing special. Saudi has to do something after failure of >3 decades. These are all expected moves.

Let them try their last card too. Nato+Egypt+Israel+pak.

It will be helpful for Pakistanis as it will result in cleansing Saudi lovers and will result in the Rise of Powerful Hezbullah in Pakistan. Enough is Enough.

This card is just a CONTINGENCY because they are already Disturbing Iran Economically by reducing Oil Prices all time low in Pakistan so dont expect a lot from that instead it is just part of Contingency Planning if all else fails.

 

[B@KH]

This card is just a CONTINGENCY because they are already Disturbing Iran Economically by reducing Oil Prices all time low in Pakistan so dont expect a lot from that instead it is just part of Contingency Planning if all else fails.

When elephant falls it shakes ground. nothing is hidden in today's world. let them try and dry all their cards. it will be good if all saudi lovers go to war and they will be taken care by Iranian brothers. ISLAM will show its power to the world.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

Sending retired military personal would be a great idea. Recently retired officers, NCO's etc have still a lot to offer---they can male a good living and offer their expertise and be great ambassadors for Pakistan.