More than a third of Britons cannot afford to heat their home to a comfortable level

[Turingsage]

My parents house is Victorian - they feel your pain. At 23 windows you have to pay a premium to keep that warm. I bet its a beautiful house though.

I love old Victorian houses. You can see they were built with pride and the money of empire.

Do you have many of the original features? Milton tiles?

I bought it because the house belonged to a single family since it was built in 1892 . The last of the family was 93 year old spinster who had the only one left after her father a local bishop died.
When she died she left the house to the church and I bought it off the bank that had been given the job of selling it by the trustees.
IT WAS LITERALLY UNTOUCHED with all the Victorian fireplaces , stained widows, Wooden floorboards, lathe and plaster walls, all the decorative woodwork and Victorian tiles.
Yes I too was in love with that image we are familiar with.
What you do not see and take years and one hell of a lot of money to sort out is removing old pipes, including some made of lead, all the electrics have to be rewired top to bottom. Bathrooms kitchen all had to be refurbished and IT COSTS if you choose to keep that authentic Victorian look.
Genuine and Quality reproduction is EXPENSIVE as are proper builders.
I had rose tinted glasses when I bought it and did not fully appreciate the money and effort to get it right and comfortable.
I dont know what to say, I love my house but it has cost a small fortune and a lot of pain and time.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Poor Anglos can't afford to heat their home ?

You believe this rubbish?

Meanwhile the list of Polish and Russian and every other nations refugees are lining up to come to UK

From every corner of the world they come. Even warm France is not good enough. Many risk the English Channel crossing with their lives apparently to freeze to death in cold homes.

 

[Piotr]

You believe this rubbish?

There are poor people in England. But of course it is debatable how many.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

There are poor people in England. But of course it is debatable how many.

There are sufficient opportunities for people to live a good life in UK. Then there are elaborate social security mechanism in place to help those less fortunate to live a decent life.

That said in life you will always find some people, mostlybecause they have issues who drop below what is societies basic net. This is sad part of the human condition and no society, east or west is 100% perfect.

Yes, it is true post covid inflation and as mentioned energy prices have risen abrupty but that is across most of the globe and not particular to UK.

That said as some members have pointed out it annoys me big time how some warmongers are trying to drum up for conflict in Ukraine - a country on the distant horizon of UK. But that is how it is - I guess this is the influenceof the US war machine on Western Europe.

 

[Piotr]

Meanwhile the list of Polish and Russian and every other nations refugees are lining up to come to UK

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In year 2020 - 164 000 Polish People left England (source). But of course you don't care about facts.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Last year 164 000 Polish People left England (source).

True. Massive EU subsidies and inflow consequent to the EU membership has lifted Poland and this naturally would attract many to go back.

If that level of subsidy was provided to Pakistan many of us would also head back to sunny Pakistan.

 

[Piotr]

There are sufficient opportunities for people to live a good life in UK. Then there are elaborate social security mechanism in place to help those less fortunate to live a decent life.

England become rich by stealing from others (slavery, drug trade). As England has less and less oportunities to steal from others it will become poorer.

That said in life you will always find some people, mostlybecause they have issues who drop below what is societies basic net. This is sad part of the human condition and no society, east or west is 100% perfect.

Yes, it is true post covid inflation and as mentioned energy prices have risen abrupty but that is across most of the globe and not particular to UK.

That said as some members have pointed out it annoys me big time how some warmongers are trying to drum up for conflict in Ukraine - a country on the distant horizon of UK. But that is how it is - I guess this is the influenceof the US war machine on Western Europe.

I agree.

True. Massive EU subsidies and inflow consequent to the EU membership has lifted Poland and this naturally would attract many to go back.
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We develop thanks to our hard work not some EU subsidies.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

We develop thanks to our hard work not some EU subsidies.

I am not going to take away from the fact that Poles are very hard working people but let's be honest, the market access to EU and subsidies hsave helped.

 

[Piotr]

I am not going to take away from the fact that Poles are very hard working people but let's be honest, the market access to EU and subsidies hsave helped.

I agree that access to EU market helps to some degree, but I don't think subsidies help. We pay a lot money to EU as well. According to some sources we pay more money than we receive.

Last but not least we had quite strong economy already in 1970s so it's not like we own EU something.

 

[aziqbal]

In year 2020 - 164 000 Polish People left England (source). But of course you don't care about facts.

because we kicked them out after Brexit

and millions still remain

 

[PakFactor]

Its a old Victorian rambling property. spent about £100,000 on electrics copper piping central heating double glazing and some insulation. It has 23 windows.

BUT this is still a Victorian property . It is double skinned but not a insulating air layer between the two brick courses. Victorian houses and draughts go together. You can never fully get rid of them.
I keep the house at a constant 26C day and night as there is NOTHING I hate more than feeling cold.
I am getting old and feel the chill a lot more.
When I bought it 30 years ago I wanted a house with a lot of room. I grew up in Uganda with a lot of open spaces and a lot of rooms in a house. Stupidly never considered the heating costs.
Thinking about heat exchangers and Solar but organising all that just pisses me off.

Is there a government program to install solar panels? In the US between the electric company and federal government we can tap into it and get installed up and running.

 

[kingQamaR]

This stupid green lobby net zero in U.K. is going to push people in to poverty buy over priced electricity cars , and your house heating installing this new heat pumps boiler cost untoward £20k putting them in. banning gas boilers by 2030 and diesel petrol combustible transport to go to , all green now , and even that joker khan mayor of London stupidity in making ULEZ to cycle lanes is going crazy this guy is a pRick

 

[Piotr]

because we kicked them out after Brexit

At least you don't deny you hate Polish People.

and millions still remain

Not "millions" but about 700 000. As usual you don't care about facts.

 

[aziqbal]

At least you don't deny you hate Polish People.



Not "millions" but about 700 000. As usual you don't care about facts.

do you use communist propaganda?

in 2017 over 1million Polish live in UK

and anyway why would that concern a fake profile like your who is actually Russia hiding behind Polish identity

 

[kingQamaR]

At least you don't deny you hate Polish People.



Not "millions" but about 700 000. As usual you don't care about facts.

English peoples voted for Brexit of uncontrollable migration from Eastern Europe pushing wages and living standards down of this pool of cheap workers