More than 50 pc of South Asians have Indian ancestry: study

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South Asian News Agency (SANA) ⋅ December 12, 2011

Delhi(SANA)A new genetics study has found that more than 50 per cent of the South Asian populations have Indian ancestry.
The study, conducted by scientists of the Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology (CCMB) in collaboration with the University of Tartu, Estonia, the Chettinad Academy of Research and Education, Chennai and Banaras Hindu University, Varanasi, has been published in the prestigious American Journal of Human Genetics.

Led by Dr. Kumarasamy Thangaraj of CCMB, it found that South Asia harbours two major ancestry components, one of which is spread at comparable frequency and genetic diversity in populations of South and West Asia, Middle East, Near East and the Caucasus; the other component is more restricted to South Asia.

Both the ancestry components that dominate genetic variation in South Asia demonstrate much greater genetic diversity than those that predominate in West Eurasia.

The genetic affinities of both the ancestry components are incompatible with substantial gene flow into the region during Max Mueller’s purported Indo-Aryan invasion 3,500 years ago

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[ChineseTiger1986]

The pre-India Indo-Aryan ancestry, since India didn't exist as a nation before 1947.

 

[karan.1970]

The pre-India Indo-Aryan ancestry, since India didn't exist as a nation before 1947.

and the Word Indo in Indo Aryan comes from ???

 

[SpArK]

and the Word Indo in Indo Aryan comes from ???

Indianapolis, US.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

and the Word Indo in Indo Aryan comes from ???

Even Lord Buddha was Indo-Aryan, but many people would simply refuse to call him an Indian.

 

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Indians are not descendants of Aryans, says new study

Widely believed theory of Indo-Aryan invasion, often used to explain early settlements in the Indian subcontinent is a myth, a new study by Indian geneticists says.

The origin of genetic diversity found in South Asia is much older than 3,500 years when the Indo-Aryans were supposed to have migrated to India, a new study led by scientists from the Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology (CCMB), Hyderabad, says. The study appeared in American Journal of Human Genetics on Friday.

The theory of Indo-Aryan migration was proposed in mid-19th century by German linguist and Sanskrit scholar Max Muller.

He had suggested that 3,500 years ago, a dramatic migration of Indo-European speakers from Central Asia played a key role in shaping contemporary South Asian populations and this was responsible for introduction of the Indo-European language family and the caste system in India.

"Our study clearly shows that there was no genetic influx 3,500 years ago," said Dr Kumarasamy Thangaraj of CCMB, who led the research team, which included scientists from the University of Tartu, Estonia, Chettinad Academy of Research and Education, Chennai and Banaras Hindu University.

"It is high time we re-write India's prehistory based on scientific evidence," said Dr Lalji Singh, former director of CCMB. "There is no genetic evidence that Indo-Aryans invaded or migrated to India or even something such as Aryans existed". Singh, vice-chancellor of BHU, is a coauthor.

Researchers analysed some six lakh bits of genetic information in the form of SNPs drawn from DNA of over 1,300 individuals from 112 populations including 30 ethnic groups in India.

The comparison of this data with genetic data of other populations showed that South Asia harbours two major ancestry components. One is spread in populations of South and West Asia, Middle East, Near East and the Caucasus. The second component is more restricted to South Asia and accounts for more than 50 per cent of the ancestry in Indian populations.

"Both the ancestry components that dominate genetic variation in South Asia demonstrate much greater diversity than those that predominate West Eurasia. This is indicative of a more ancient demographic history and a higher long-term effective population size underlying South Asian genome variation compared to that of West Eurasia," researchers said.

"The genetic component which spread beyond India is significantly higher in India than in any other part of world. This implies that this genetic component originated in India and then spread to West Asia and Caucasus," said Gyaneshwar Chaube of University of Tartu, Estonia.

If any migration from Central Asia to South Asia took place, the study says, it should have introduced apparent signals of East Asian ancestry into India. "Because this ancestry component is absent from the region, we have to conclude that if such an event indeed took place, it occurred before the East Asian ancestry component reached central Asia," it said.

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[SpArK]

Even Lord Buddha was Indo-Aryan, but many people would refuse to call him an Indian.

The immigration authority and the visa office were not good as today back then.

 

[R0H1T]

The pre-India Indo-Aryan ancestry, since India didn't exist as a nation before 1947.

What were the Chinese called back some 4K+ yrs ago, Hans or did they mix up(read breed) eventually with the central Asian invaders ?

 

[GURU DUTT]

and the Word Indo in Indo Aryan comes from ???

Karan bhai till date i had seen & read hundred of articels about this indo aryan race something but after each article or debate it came out that westerners implanted this theory in our thoghts to show & make us believe how that all owr knowledge/racial &cultuer had a foriegn origin so nothing wrong in having foriegn masters again but some our esteemed freinds across the border still use it to show there different , well who cares ?? but its the limit of ghulam mentality that some guys feel proud to believe it still

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

What were the Chinese called back some 4K+ yrs ago, Hans or did they mix up(read breed) eventually with the central Asian invaders ?

The genetic test shows that we pretty much remain the same, except the northern population shows more northeast asian influence and the southern population shows more southeast asian influence.

Back in 4k years ago, our name was Huaxia.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

The pre-India Indo-Aryan ancestry, since India didn't exist as a nation before 1947.

Even the word China never existed so was the Unified Chinese language. It has always been known as Zhong Guo (middle Kingdom), what this "middle kingdom" doesn't sound like the name of a country. Also, chinese language came as a unified language only in 1949 when Putonghua as adopted as Unified language for all Chinese people.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Even the word China never existed so was the Unified Chinese language. It has always been known as Zhong Guo (middle Kingdom), what this "middle kingdom" doesn't sound like the name of a country. Also, chinese language came as a unified language only in 1949 when Putonghua as adopted as Unified language for all Chinese people.

Putonghua is still the brother of other Chinese dialects, so it is absolutely OK to have your biological brother to unify you.

However, India uses an foreign colonial language to unify a country, which is beyond people's imagination.

 

[R0H1T]

The genetic test shows that we pretty much remain the same, except the northern population shows more northeast asian influence and the southern population shows more southeast asian influence.

Back in 4k years ago, our name was Huaxia.

Big deal ! Names evolve over a period of time but the ancient Hindu culture is the same as it was over the past ~4K yrs similar to China & the name IND is just the perfect embodiment of the evolution seen in South Asia over that period of time i.e. we're pretty much the past, present, future of the Indian subcontinent.

 

[patna_ke_presley]

Putonghua is still the brother of other Chinese dialects, so it is absolutely OK to have your biological brother to unify you.

However, India uses an foreign colonial language to unify a country, which is beyond people's imagination.

I see many Chinese flocking to India or America or Europe to lean this foreign language.

And it seems Cantonese never accepted this brotherly language. Is Tibetan, Uighur, Korean and Mangolian also the brotherly language of Putonghua.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I see many Chinese flocking to India or America or Europe to lean this foreign language.

And it seems Cantonese never accepted this brotherly language. Is Tibetan, Uighur, Korean and Mangolian also the brotherly language of Putonghua.

The problem is that even the so-called Tibetan and Han are genetically more closely related compared to German and British.

However, India has divided into two big racial groups which are the Indo-Aryan and the Dravidian.