More than 2,000 Bangladeshis, highest in Indian jails currently.

[El Sidd]

Nope...not yet...given they are thoroughly reformed into loyal haseena voters by the experience....all done on indian taxpayer dime too. Haseena is one happy camper.

Its like having a Hilsa and eating it too

 

[American Pakistani]

Its funny when someone can not say a word about the topic because its actually the reality and truth he attacks the thread opener. I am Bangladeshi. Not Pakistani or Indian.

Your own country men are disowning you, nothing to do with me. Your posts and threads just show the other side of the picture to people who otherwise don't know much about that part of the world.

Out of 210,000,000 pakistanis is it beyond comprehension that just one bell-end by the name of Riyad might have learnt a bit of Bangla with the aid of the internet?? Whoever this person is (and I maintain he is a paid shill) is putting in enough overtime to post dozens of inflammatory posts.

There are languages like Arabic, Persian, Chinese, French to learn. Why would someone learn another south Asian language?

کوئی بھی انٹرنیٹ کا استعمال کر سکتا ہے

There is limits to everything. If a person is using Internet or Google translate, he cannot be so fluent. Plus @Riyad know alot about interior Bangladesh and east north india.

There is no way he is AL! Why AL will be screwing up themselves while already they have a bad name of being Indian stooge ( although it's totally false) ?

He is probably anti govt fifth columnist or kolkatan Bengali. Look at all AL posters here. Everyone have severe problem with Indians!

Not screwing, they are allies of India. Don't want to go into much details and derail the thread.

 

[Black_cats]

Dear Indians, don't be harsh on Bangladeshis in India. They are all not criminals. Majority are economic migrants. Where will they go if India rejects them?


More than 2,000 Bangladeshis in Indian jails

July 11th, 2019 at 6:42 pm

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Dhaka – More than 2,000 Bangladeshi nationals have been languishing in jails of neighbouring India as they were detained over various charges in the past years, according to an account placed in parliament by the Foreign Minister.

Abul Kalam Abdul Momen, the foreign minister, said on Thursday the highest number of Bangladesh nationals detained abroad are in India. The minister was responding to questions in parliament during the regular question-answer session.

Replying to a question from M Abdul Latif of a Chattogram constituency, the minister said that a total of 8,848 Bangladesh nationals are currently in jails or detention centres of different countries.

Among them 2,049 Bangladeshis, the highest number, are in Indian jails, he said.

A total of 1,15

6 Bangladeshis are in the jails of United Arab Emirates, 768 in Saudi Arabia, 693 in Bahrain, 572 in Malaysia, 442 in Oman and 316 in Kuwait.

The minister said diplomatic efforts are on with those countries to reduce the tenure of punishment or complete clemency for the detainees.

https://newsnextbd.com/?p=7463

What this lunatic idiot is trying to say or pretend? India or any other country can take action against anyone based on their law if anyone breaks law.

This 2000 figure also indicates there are hundreds of thousand illegal Bangladeshis are there let alone millions.

There are upto 1.5-2 million illegal Indians are in Bangladesh as per various sources. Does it really needs to be a news?

This sob is posting news for 2, 3 or Bangladeshis captured in India as if entire Bangladeshis are in India in search of job.

This is only the trait of Sanghis of India hiding behind a false flag or a fifth columnist.

 

[namefield_empty]

There are upto 1.5-2 million illegal Indians are in Bangladesh as per various sources. Does it really needs to be a news?

It is time you stopped pulling facts and figures out of dark places.. Even if we consider presence of few odd millions of illegal Indians in BD, i have never read about your BGB apprehending them while trying to cross or them being arrested from your towns and cities inside BD and repatriated back to India. Show us proof of the arrest and trial of illegal Indians..

In contrast, about 30k illegal Bangladeshis have been tried, convicted, jailed and repatriated back in Assam alone over the years. This excludes the criminals and smugglers caught or shot dead infiltrating to India.

 

[Black_cats]

It is time you stopped pulling facts and figures out of dark places.. Even if we consider presence of few odd millions of illegal Indians in BD, i have never read about your BGB apprehending them while trying to cross or them being arrested from your towns and cities inside BD and repatriated back to India. Show us proof of the arrest and trial of illegal Indians..

In contrast, about 30k illegal Bangladeshis have been tried, convicted, jailed and repatriated back in Assam alone over the years. This excludes the criminals and smugglers caught or shot dead infiltrating to India.

Short answer is lack of policy and no proper mechanism of tackling these huge number of illegal migrant from India and Myanmar. Plus this is not in the agenda to devout resource for that. However this is becoming a priority because of fake hue and cry made in India.

National Board of Revenue is planning to crack down on this as most illegal Indians are working after coming to Bangladesh on tourist visa and overstaying the visa, not paying taxes and taking out the money.

But it does not matter it does not exist.

This has been tracked in the following quora question. Even back in 2009 official Bangladesh figure of illegal Indian was .5 million but real number was much higher. In net 10 years it has increased more.

https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Bangl...of-illegal-Indian-immigrants-from-the-country

https://scroll.in/article/664305/dh...t-the-illegal-indian-immigrants-in-bangladesh

http://web.archive.org/web/20090815...financialexpress-bd.com/2009/07/26/74259.html

By the way you wanted to say Assam deported 30000 Bangladeshi to Bangladesh after serving jail in Assam? Even a liar should be ashamed of making such comment. Did you mean these type of Bangladeshis you have detained?

Held as ‘Bangladeshi’, Assam villager returns as ‘Indian’ after 3 years
https://www.thehindu.com/news/natio...s-as-indian-after-3-years/article27105162.ece

 

[namefield_empty]

This has been tracked in the following quora question. Even back in 2009 official Bangladesh figure of illegal Indian was .5 million but real number was much higher. In net 10 years it has increased more.

You aren't providing us with any concrete proof, these quora posts by anonymous writers won't do you any good. There are bound to be a couple of discrepancies in NRC updation when crores of names are involved.

Show us instances where Indians are caught red handed staying illegally in your country and deported back after due process of trial and conviction. Similar to what happens(and often shared by media in India) here all the time..

You are free to deport any Indian overstaying welcome in BD and we won't raise a commotion like your countrymen.

 

[Black_cats]

You aren't providing us with any concrete proof, these quora posts by anonymous writers won't do you any good. There are bound to be a couple of discrepancies in NRC updation when crores of names are involved.

Show us instances where Indians are caught red handed staying illegally in your country and deported back after due process of trial and conviction. Similar to what happens(and often shared by media in India) here all the time..

You are free to deport any Indian overstaying welcome in BD and we won't raise a commotion like your countrymen.

Have we complaint about deporting illegal Bangladeshi? Even these minuscule number indicates its a massive scale propaganda to say there are million of Bangladeshi in India.

It is not as of yet Bangladesh's top priority of Bangladeshi government to capture and deport these illegal Indians. Lack of policy and resource is also to blame for that.

However as it is India which is crying wolf about illegal Bangladeshi it is their responsibility to come up with credible proof which they failed to provide and even census data does not support such baseless claim. Couple of hundred thousand Bangladeshi muslim at best in India same like the Indian but no way it is tens of millions.

As of now 12 million Bangladeshi live abroad legally and illegally all around the world but you will hardly find people whose family is in India.

By the way where is you prrof of claim Assam deported 30000 Bangladeshi?

 

[namefield_empty]

By the way where is you prrof of claim Assam deported 30000 Bangladeshi?

https://www.dailypioneer.com/2018/india/assam-has-deported-only-29-795-foreigners.html

Although deportation of illegal Bangladeshi infiltrators remained the main poll plank for most of the parties in Assam, yet the successive governments run by different parties in the state could deport only 29,795 illegal foreigners so far.

It is not as of yet Bangladesh's top priority of Bangladeshi government to capture and deport these illegal Indians.

That i understand, but you are unable to show us even a single instance of Indians caught trespassing to BD by your BGB like we do on a daily basis here, and yet making a tall claim that there are 1.5-2 millions illegal Indians in BD. Are you counting your hapless tribals and Hindus in that 2 million figure?

 

[Black_cats]

https://www.dailypioneer.com/2018/india/assam-has-deported-only-29-795-foreigners.html

Although deportation of illegal Bangladeshi infiltrators remained the main poll plank for most of the parties in Assam, yet the successive governments run by different parties in the state could deport only 29,795 illegal foreigners so far.

That i understand, but you are unable to show us even a single instance of Indians caught trespassing to BD by your BGB like we do on a daily basis here, and yet making a tall claim that there are 1.5-2 millions illegal Indians in BD. Are you counting your hapless tribals and Hindus in that 2 million figure?

Why you are using the word deportation? The article clearly states they have been pushed back which is absolutely illegal without knowledge of Bangladesh authority. The process has been carried since 1972-2017 I guess.

“Prior to this, the State Government has pushed back a total of 29,663 declared foreigners and convicted persons to Bangladesh till December 31, 2017,” said Patowary.”

Plus just declaring someone as foreigner by some random Assam tribunal does not make them illegal Bangladeshi. This is the reality as of now and I am quite sure many of them will get back their citizenship.

“A total of 91,609 persons have so far been declared or convicted as foreigner by different Foreigners’ Tribunals in Assam. The Minister further said that out of this only 1,037 declared foreigners are living in six detention camps of Assam. The 1,037 also includes 31 children, he added.”

If I would have counted tribal as illegal I would have mentioned that. Plus number of hindu is 17 million in Bangladesh not 2 million.

 

[namefield_empty]

Why you are using the word deportation? The article clearly states they have been pushed back which is absolutely illegal without knowledge of Bangladesh authority. The process has been carried since 1972-2017 I guess.

Pushed back is the same as deportation, this is not some jungle-raj or arbitrary procedure. Those apprehended enjoy the same rights as any other Indians till their Bangladeshi origin is verified, and there is a well laid down procedure for it. Even those that are caught red handed crossing the border aren't pushed back immediately. In fact many of those who are considered doubtful and have cases ongoing against them are found absconding later on, so the official figures of deportation are way lower than the total number of cases.

But yes, that is the overall figure of many years and i asked you to furnish the same from your country as you claimed about illegal Indians in BD.

 

[Black_cats]

Pushed back is the same as deportation, this is not some jungle-raj or arbitrary procedure. Those apprehended enjoy the same rights as any other Indians till their Bangladeshi origin is verified, and there is a well laid down procedure for it. Even those that are caught red handed crossing the border aren't pushed back immediately. In fact many of those who are considered doubtful and have cases ongoing against them are found absconding later on, so the official figures of deportation are way lower than the total number of cases.

But yes, that is the overall figure of many years and i asked you to furnish the same from your country as you claimed about illegal Indians in BD.

Do not try to teach me what is push back. It is the process to push Indian into Bangladeshi territory by BSF where there are no BGB patrol. No Bangladeshi authority is involved and process is absolutely illegal.

 

[namefield_empty]

Do not try to teach me what is push back. It is the process to push Indian into Bangladeshi territory by BSF where there are no BGB patrol. No Bangladeshi authority is involved and process is absolutely illegal.

WRONG!! After due legal processes are done with, these aliens serve a jail term and are then handed over to your border authorities. That is the procedure followed.

Since we are trying to cultivate good relations with Bangladesh these days, sometimes we hand over their illegals directly to their BGB without initiating legal procedures as an act of goodwill.
https://www.business-standard.com/a...-back-as-goodwill-gesture-119030100939_1.html

The Bangladeshis, who were caught on February 25, were handed over to the authorities of the neighbouring country by the Border Security Force as a goodwill gesture the next day, they said.

@Black_cats

 

[Black_cats]

WRONG!! After due legal processes are done with, these aliens serve a jail term and are then handed over to your border authorities. That is the procedure followed.

Since we are trying to cultivate good relations with Bangladesh these days, sometimes we hand over their illegals directly to their BGB without initiating legal procedures as an act of goodwill.
https://www.business-standard.com/a...-back-as-goodwill-gesture-119030100939_1.html

The Bangladeshis, who were caught on February 25, were handed over to the authorities of the neighbouring country by the Border Security Force as a goodwill gesture the next day, they said.

@Black_cats

Handed over and push back are not same either.

This is what happens in pushback!!

India adding to Bangladesh’s woes by pushing back Rohingyas

https://www.dhakatribune.com/world/...dding-bangladeshs-woes-pushing-back-rohingyas

Even if we accept the figure 30000 for all the 4 decades it just makes it quite clear millions of illegal Bangladeshi are in Assam let alone in India.

 

[namefield_empty]

Handed over and push back are not same either.

For the purview of our discussion pertaining to the well laid down procedure under The Foreigners Act 1946 which governs the trial, identification and deportation of the aliens in India those are the same. You may use any other words to suit your narrative but the process remains the same until we decide to show leniency.

This is what happens in pushback!!

Excerpts from the article you shared:

The Border Security Forces (BSF) officials said at least 50 Rohingyas, who had been living in India for years, crossed over to Bangladesh over the past few weeks.

However, BSF detained some of them and handed them over to the local police.

Whishing anonymity, a senior BSF official said: “Following the interrogation of some Rohingya immigrants, who were apprehended, it appears that the people under whom they were working, had asked them to leave."

From the above, it is apparent that they decided to migrate back to Bangladesh on their own as the job opportunities here were closed for them. And BSF did their job by handing them over to your authorities.

 

[Black_cats]

For the purview of our discussion pertaining to the well laid down procedure under The Foreigners Act 1946 which governs the trial, identification and deportation of the aliens in India those are the same. You may use any other words to suit your narrative but the process remains the same until we decide to show leniency.

Excerpts from the article you shared:

The Border Security Forces (BSF) officials said at least 50 Rohingyas, who had been living in India for years, crossed over to Bangladesh over the past few weeks.

However, BSF detained some of them and handed them over to the local police.

Whishing anonymity, a senior BSF official said: “Following the interrogation of some Rohingya immigrants, who were apprehended, it appears that the people under whom they were working, had asked them to leave."

From the above, it is apparent that they decided to migrate back to Bangladesh on their own as the job opportunities here were closed for them. And BSF did their job by handing them over to your authorities.

They were not handed to the authorities. BSF cuts barbed wire fence and let them go. Rohingyas can not work in Bangladesh as well and need to live in refugee camp.

Rohingyas were pushed by BSF and due to fear of sending back to Myanmar some recently with the help of BSF tried to enter into Bangladesh. Plus hindu extremist groups have threatened to find and kill them is another reason for them to flee. They were working is just a hogwash as most were living in refugee camp.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...sh-muslim-families-deportations-a8732966.html

“Many people in India have given statements like launching a ‘kill movement’,” said Mohammed Arfaat, a Rohingya youth leader who left for Bangladesh in October after six years in the northern Indian city of Jammu