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Moon Power: China’s Pursuit of Lunar Helium-3

40 tons requires a lot of moon ash sifting...never mind the tech to send it back to earth. That's a lot of parachutes.

While certainly a great fuel for fusion there are some things that have to be figured out first before we all race up there.
Perhaps the US is already mining the Moon with its secret space program?

“And apparently, NASA must be used to convince the public
that our current technology, such as with our very old and decrepit
Space Shuttle program, is the best we have, while our military
conducts space missions with technology that we can only
fantasize about while watching Star Trek.”
- USAF Medic, 1980s

Read my thread here on the website: AboveTopSecret.com:

The Top Secret US Military Space Program. Is The Future Already Here?

There's more going on out there than we will ever know!
 
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The Top Secret US Military Space Program. Is The Future Already Here?

There's more going on out there than we will ever know!

The only thing I can say is the military first flew the A-12 (SR-71 parent) in 1962.
In the 50+ years since then they have not acknowledged any other fast aircraft.

That's an incredibly long time to say nothing unless they have something they really
don't want anybody to know about. Considering how crazy the A-12 was you can imagine what 50 years has expanded to.

Another design in the late 1950's was the Convair Kingfish.
Artist rendering:
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A new photo of a mysterious flying object over Kansas has been revealed. It appears to be the same aircraft as one that was snapped soaring over Texas last month.

The exact identify of the aircraft remains a mystery, but rumours abound that it could be a secret jet.

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Is it the Aurora or the Nautilus? :what:

And this is the amazing Lockheed Martin SR-72- the space Blackbird.....


The hypersonic SR-72 is the first aircraft that can fit perfectly in Star Wars or Galactica, a true space age ship.

In fact, it reminds me of a mix between a Viper Mark VII and Galactica's one stealth one-of-a-kind Viper, also called the Blackbird, in obvious homage to the SR-71.

Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works has already begun development on the high altitude SR-72, which will fly at Mach 6—twice the speed of the SR-71—and will be capable of carrying weapons. Unlike the Blackbird, the SR-72 is an armed platform that will be capable of attacking from the edge of space.

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It's an affordable hypersonic intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) and strike platform that could enter development in demonstrator form as soon as 2018. Dubbed the SR-72, the twin-engine aircraft is designed for a Mach 6 cruise, around twice the speed of its forebear, and will have the optional capability to strike targets.

Guided by the U.S. Air Force's long-term hypersonic road map, the SR-72 is designed to fill what are perceived by defense planners as growing gaps in coverage of fast-reaction intelligence by the plethora of satellites, subsonic manned and unmanned platforms meant to replace the SR-71.
 
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China's Yuegong-1 Simulates Plant Cultivation on the Moon



By Mary-Ann Russon

May 21, 2014 10:46 BST

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China's first planned moon base, Yuegong-1 (Moon Palace-1) China National Space Administration

In the race to make humans self-sufficient in space, China has pulled ahead of Nasa with the development of Yuegong-1 (Moon Palace-1), a lab simulating the cultivation of plants and micro-organisms on the moon.

Three Chinese volunteers have just spent 105 days living in a module measuring 500 cubic metres, feeding themselves by growing five types of grains, 15 types of vegetables including soybean, peanuts, peppers, carrots, tomatoes and coriander, one type of fruit and yellow mealworm for protein.

Yuegong-1 is one of the world's most advanced bioregenerative life support systems, also known as a controlled ecological life support system.

Nasa has announced plans to send plants to the moon next year when the top contenders for the Google Lunar XPrize competition try to make a soft moon landing with their own rovers. The US space agency also wants to grow plants in a greenhouse on Mars by 2021.

Completely self-sufficient

Located in a closed laboratory in Beihang University, a major aeronautics and astronautics research university in Beijing, the module contains two plant-growing labs and a cabin with living quarters, a room for socialising, a bathroom, a room for breeding insects for food and a waste treatment room.

Helping to keep the module running is a system producing water and fertiliser, as well as processing waste and recycling air.

The system's chief designer Liu Hong told China.org.cn that Yuegong-1 is a miniature version of the Earth's biosphere and will make it possible for astronauts to live safely for long periods on space stations without deliveries of supplies.

The participants' waste was turned into fertiliser for the soil in the plant-growing labs, while the carbon dioxide they produced was used to facilitate photosynthesis, with the oxygen produced from the process then pumped back to the living quarters.

Meeting conditions on the moon

China has been working to develop a self-sufficient system since 2004, and in 2012, two test subjects were able to survive for 30 days on the oxygen and food provided by a greenhouse measuring 36 square metres, which was filled with four types of edible plants.

The conditions on the moon make it difficult to grow plants, as temperatures range from between minus -175 degrees Celsius to 120 degrees Celsius, there is low gravity and parts of the planet remain completely covered in darkness for periods of more than 10 days at a time.

China wants to beat NASA to the moon, and the idea of making a completely self-sufficient module capable of sustaining astronauts could potentially save the space industry billions of dollars, as it currently costs the US government between $10,000 - $100,000 to send just one kilogram of food supplies into space.


Move Aside Nasa: China's Yuegong-1 Simulates Plant Cultivation on the Moon
 
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Xi called for energy revolution so everything is possible for us. We will conquer the Moon by 2040s. By that time, fossil fuel will be depleted.

40 tons requires a lot of moon ash sifting...never mind the tech to send it back to earth. That's a lot of parachutes.

While certainly a great fuel for fusion there are some things that have to be figured out first before we all race up there.
Weight is not a problem. With bigger rocket comes more rocket fuels. There is also the benefit of the Moon weak gravity. The issue is always money and determination to overcome challenge.
 
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Xi called for energy revolution so everything is possible for us. We will conquer the Moon by 2040s. By that time, fossil fuel will be depleted.


Weight is not a problem. With bigger rocket comes more rocket fuels. There is also the benefit of the Moon weak gravity. The issue is always money and determination to overcome challenge.

Actually returning 40 tons is not as difficult as I expected. This company is building a 30 ton capacity parachute for NASA.
ATK and NASA test Ares I recovery parachute | AL.com

So you only need a few landings to get a years worth back. Not bad. You just have a lunar lander make a bunch of up and down trips to an orbiting storage container and send back a huge shipment all at once.

In fact you could reuse the booster that takes the container back and forth to the moon. You launch a single booster and multiple containers. In orbit connect the booster to a container, fly to the moon, fill up container with lunar lander, turn around and head back, jettison the container and let it land. Grab another container waiting in orbit. Refuel. Repeat process.

Definitely easily possible with current tech. The only thing to figure out is the robotic miner. I think we have remote rovers pretty figured out and landers. All we need is to figure out how to extract helium3 efficiently.
 
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