Modi's involvement in the Gujarat riots (person specific thread)

[letsrock]

Neither riot nor rape during riots are new to Indian subcontinent.

1.5 million people were murdered and many women raped during partition of India on religious lines.

Then there is 1971 and the stories of " Veerangana" .

But the man resposnible is the PM and you being a soulless ghoul has no problem in supporting him.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

The mental gymnastics that these trolls have to go through to defend a known criminal. Modi himself is quite proud of his ability to teach Indian Muslims a lesson. That is the crux of his popularity and it is an embarrassment to humanity that he gets upwards of 80% of the Hindu vote.

Unbelievable to anyone outside India, but inside India anyone who speaks out is either silenced or killed. It is a mob masquerading as a country.

The sooner this Pakistani nation rises up from its own internal weakness, the sooner we can put an end to this façade called India.

The world, and most importantly, the victims of RSS in India and also in Kashmir will thank us limitlessly for this great war of liberation.

It is not just Kashmir, but India itself which must be liberated from oppression, villainy, and injustice.

Indian children also deserve a future free of RSS.

 

[Aaloo Tikki]

Godhra gave us our PM. Muslim rioters are real force behind Hindu unity. They destroyed Khangress from Centre and SP/BSP from UP. Next is WB.


Thanks to GreenTerror

 

[pikkuboss]

Supreme court of India has given a verdict on this issue. Matter solved. Close the thread.

 

[waz]

Godhra gave us our PM. Muslim rioters are real force behind Hindu unity. They destroyed Khangress from Centre and SP/BSP from UP. Next is WB.


Thanks to GreenTerror

You can conduct your terror elsewhere now. Banned.

Supreme court of India has given a verdict on this issue. Matter solved. Close the thread.

I think not, let everyone know the rape and murder loving Modi.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

You can conduct your terror elsewhere now. Banned.


I think not, let everyone know the rape and murder loving Modi.

Have written some comments with 'The Butcher of Gujarat' for Modi and 'the Print' the India media group YouTube channel has deleted the comment...


Can't hide the history and reality by it...Modi was and is the Butcher of Gujarat

 

[waz]

Thank you to all the brothers for your warm messages and support on this thread.
Another one will be coming, sadly more disturbing than this. This will look at why sexual violence was used so viciously by the Sanghis on Muslim women.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Thank you to all the brothers for your warm messages and support on this thread.
Another one will be coming, sadly more disturbing than this. This will look at why sexual violence was used so viciously by the Sanghis on Muslim women.

Please tag us bro, we would love to read it.

 

[xeuss]

The contention was simple, You claimed Modi made some incendiary speeches that led to riots post godhra train burning, when asked to validate your claim, you did all sort of contortions and failed to validate your claim. Very specific speech claim.
When you realized your B.S was busted, ad-hominem attacks are what you resorted to by calling me a Sanghi. So no anyone who can challenge your claim becomes a Sanghi, not once on this or any other thread have I shown any support to right-wing agenda. What I guess sticks like a thorn in your and your admin's skin is my opposition to the state-sponsored terrorists that you seem to be a great proponent of. Irrespective I say adios- (courteously)

tc

For someone who is not a "Sanghi" and not a "right-winger" you seem to be more than eager to absolve Modi of his crimes.

Hitler became the mass murderer because of enablers like you who were more than happy to look the other way as long as Jews were being killed.

I guess removing the title has created a tremendous need for burnol.
Don’t take the bait and respond to the obvious venom that has been spitted out by a member helll bent and desperate to defend someone that he is suggesting is innocent. Me thinks the lady protests too much.
Modi was and is guilty of genocide. February 27th 2002. A date permanently grained in my membrane. My cricket captain who was beheaded by a rampant venom spitting lowest form of Hindus - along with his friends were slaughtered too. Left behind a widow and 4 little children. All grown up and dandy - but without the love of a father.
Like it or not this low life scum bucket of a man turned a blind eye - actively encouraged in the genocide and will always have that hanging over his genocide loving head. What’s worse is this wannabe wasabee think tank stands up attempting to defend the indefensible - don’t know which ones worse.
Do have a nice evening Waz sahib

I assume these are the people you are talking about:

Frantic search for British sons lost in Gujarat riots

The mothers of British Muslim cousins who disappeared when they were caught up in the communal riots in Gujarat nearly two months ago said last night that they had no intention of leaving India until they knew what had happened to them.

www.theguardian.com

Very sad. Let us also remember that the culprits who did the crimes were acquitted.

Family of British victims killed in 2002 Gujarat riots slam acquittal of six accused

Acquittal of six people in a case related to killing of three British nationals during Gujarat riots was slammed by the victims’ family.

www.firstpost.com

 

[Gilljutt]

Despite all this BJP is doing better than it ever has with Muslim voters. Why?

 

[xeuss]

Despite all this BJP is doing better than it ever has with Muslim voters. Why?

Ask your mind that since it is making up such fanciful tales.

 

[Gilljutt]

Ask your mind that since it is making up such fanciful tales.

Lol. They are now the 2nd most popular choice for Muslim voters in India. 26% of Muslims voters is a considerable amount. See reference

 

[xeuss]

Lol. They are now the 2nd most popular choice for Muslim voters in India. 26% of Muslims voters is a considerable amount. See reference

From the article you posted:

The author is a scholar of political Islam and associate professor at Centre for the Study of Developing Societies. Views are personal.

From 2019 Lok Sabha results:

 

[INS_Vikrant]

From the official Tehelka sting which saw many members of the RSS, VHP and Dal locked up for their horrific crimes.

Modi's involvement;


"which Narendra Modi told them they could do whatever they wanted for the next three days. After that, Bhatt says, “He asked us to stop and everything came to a halt.”

Modi himself arranged for Babu Bajrangi, the prime accused in the Naroda Patiya case, to stay at Gujarat Bhavan in Mount Abu, and transferred two judges to help Bajrangi get bail

AFTER THE NARODA PATIYA carnage, the chief minister himself went to the site and acknowledged the efforts of the Chhara tribe, who were key participants in the massacre at Naroda Patiya

"we did whatever we did till quite late in the evening… at around 7.30… around 7.15, our Modibhai came… Right here, outside the house… My sisters garlanded him with roses…"

He went around to all the places… He said our tribe was blessed… He said our mothers were blessed [for bearing us]…


By the way, these Chara lot he was busy congratulating described themselves as rape specialists of Muslim women.



TEHELKA: It is being said the Chharas also committed rapes…
Richard: Now look, one thing is true… bhookhe ghuse to koi na koi to phal khayega, na [when thousands of hungry men go in, they will eat some fruit or the other, no]… Aise bhi, phal ko kuchal ke phek denge [in any case, the fruit are going to be crushed and thrown away]... Look, I’m not telling lies… Mata is before me [gesturing to an image of a deity]… Many Muslim girls were being killed and burnt to death anyway, some people must have helped themselves to the fruit…
TEHELKA: There must have been a couple of rapes…
Richard: Might even have been more… then there were the rest of our brothers, our Hindu brothers, VHP people and RSS people… Anyone could have helped themselves… who wouldn’t, when there’s fruit?… The more you harm them, the less it is… I really hate them… don’t want to spare them… Look, my wife is sitting here but let me say…the fruit was there so it had to be eaten… I also ate… I also ate… I ate once
TEHELKA: Just once?
Richard: Just once… then I had to go killing again… [turns to relative Prakash Rathod and talks about the girl he had raped and killed]… That scrap-dealer’s girl, Naseemo… Naseemo that juicy plump one… I got on top…
TEHELKA: You got on top of her…
Richard: Yes, properly…
TEHELKA: She didn’t survive, did she
Richard: No, then I pulped her… Made her into a pickle…

Fear and Loathing in Ahmedabad | SabrangIndia
Revati Laul is an independent journalist and film maker, currently based out of Gujarat; where she is working on a book on the perpetrators of the 2002 riots. She is the creator of this blog. She tweets @revatilaul Part One

www.sabrangindia.in

This filth got 31 years.

More to come. Read on from others who loved what Modi did for them.







TEHELKA: The day Patiya happened, didn’t Modi support you?

Bajrangi: He made everything all right, otherwise who would have had the strength... It was his hand all the way... If he’d told the police to do differently, they would have f****d us.... they could have... they had full control…

Bajrangi: They were very much in control all over the city, all over Gujarat… [But] for two days, Narendrabhai was in control… from the third day… a lot of pressure came from the top… Sonia-wonia and all came here


TEHELKA: Had he not been there, then Naroda Patiya, Gulbarg etc…

Bajrangi: Wouldn’t have happened. Would’ve been very difficult.

TEHELKA: Did Narendrabhai come to Patiya the day of the massacre?

Bajrangi: Narendrabhai came to Patiya… He could not make it to the place of the incidents because there were commando-phamandos with him… But he came to Patiya, saw our enthusiasm and went away… He left behind a really good atmosphere…

TEHELKA: Said you were all blessed…

Bajrangi: Narendrabhai had come to see that things didn’t stop the next day… He went all around Ahmedabad, to all the places where the miyas [Muslims] were, to the Hindu areas… told people they’d done well and should do more…

Patiya was where close to 100 Muslims were slaughtered and women raped on mass.

I was told to leave my home… I ran away… Narendrabhai kept me at… the Gujarat Bhavan at Mount Abu for four and-a-half months… After that, [I did] whatever Narendrabhai told me to… Nobody can do what Narendrabhai has done in Gujarat… If I did not have the support of Narendrabhai, we would not have been able to avenge [Godhra]… [After it was over,] Narendrabhai was happy, the people were happy, we were happy… I went to jail and came back… and returned to the life I’d led before.



TEHELKA: What was his reaction when he reached Godhra?

Dave: In Godhra, he gave a very strong statement… He was in a rage… He’s been with the Sangh from childhood… His anger was such… he didn’t come out into the open then but the police machinery was turned totally ineffective…



TEHELKA: Tell me something… Did he…

Bhatt: I can’t give a statement... But what he did, no chief minister has ever done …

Bhatt: He had given us three days… to do whatever we could. He said he would not give us time after that… He said this openly...After three days, he asked us to stop and everything came to a halt…



TEHELKA: Did you meet… Narendra Modi after he returned from Godhra on the 27th?

Pandya: No, I will not answer queries on this… I shouldn’t...


TEHELKA: Sir, I want to know what was his first reaction?

Pandya: When Narendra Modi first heard it over the phone, his blood was boiling… Tell me, what else do I say… I’ve given you some hints and I can’t reveal more than that… nor should I say it…




Bhatt: After Godhra, there was this reaction and a certain climate was created in the Parivar by the top leaders, meaning the RSS, the VHP, the Bajrang Dal, the BJP and the Durga Vahini… and in that we had Narendra Modi’s support… Let people say what they like, [we had] support in the sense that if Hindus are going to be burnt like this… if conspiracies are going to be hatched to burn Hindus… they wanted to burn the whole train [the Sabarmati Express]… and now if we don’t do anything, if we don’t generate an adequate reaction, another train will be set on fire…. This was the idea, the thought that came from him [Modi]… I was
present in the meeting…
TEHELKA: Where, sir…
Bhatt: It was held in Baroda itself…at a secret place…
TEHELKA: After Godhra …

Bhatt: We made the whole plan… to start a Hindu jehad… we were successful in Gujarat… We were thinking what should we do… so we got three-foot long iron rods… iron bars, and if the cadre was from the Bajrang Dal, then trishuls… In other words, we made a plan and supplied the samaan [weapons]… i


TEHELKA: A masjid was demolished in Dhansura
Patel: One maulvi was killed. The mosque was destroyed. There was only one mosque here.
TEHELKA: The maulvi was burnt…
Patel: Hmm...
TEHELKA: Was he burnt alive?
Patel: No, they took him away… [makes a gesture of beheading someone]
TEHELKA: With a sword…
Patel: No, with an axe… After I visited the hospital [where the karsevaks’ bodies had been kept] and returned at four in the morning, I had decided that if there were no reaction that day, then I would leave the VHP.

All taken from the original transcripts from the sting, found here;

https://cjp.org.in/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/tehelkatranscript.pdf

Sites like this ran the story.

Gujarat pogroms 2002: Modi is Culprit No. 1
Internet presence of the Indian Muslims first English Newspaper, The Milli Gazette
www.milligazette.com


You might say it's all lies and boasting? The courts didn't think so and many of them were convicted on the basis of what was said and the accuracy in their statements e.g. how many people were killed at each massacre. All spoke fondly of the role of India's beloved PM.




More evidence of the speeches I have seen;

On Sunday Rakesh Sharma, director of Final Solution, the acclaimed documentary on the Gujarat riots of 2002, released a dozen clips online that were not part of the original two-and-a-half-hour version of the film. The film severely indicts Narendra Modi, the state's chief minister and the Bharatiya Janata Party's prime ministerial candidate.

Many of these short films contain speeches that Modi delivered after the carnage, including during his Gaurav Yatra and campaigning for the state election several months after the 2002 anti-Muslim pogrom. Many of these speeches are no longer available online, Sharma said.

Film-maker releases a dozen clips of controversial Modi speeches made just after Gujarat riots
Rakesh Sharma aims to show how Modi's image is being whitewashed.

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Clean chit to the rioters i.e. denying anything happened and it's all a conspiracy. Telling them they have done no wrong.
@MilSpec

A bunch of baseless allegations and conspiracy theories without a single piece of proof and evidence. In short complete BS nothing else.

 

[INS_Vikrant]

Thank you to all the brothers for your warm messages and support on this thread.
Another one will be coming, sadly more disturbing than this. This will look at why sexual violence was used so viciously by the Sanghis on Muslim women.

Next time do provide some degree of authenticity to the claims rather than this baseless piece of allegation mainly taken from congress mouthpiece only for consumption of bunch of brain dead fools