Modi's first statement after Pakistan's surprise hit

[Imran Khan]

Stand up induans modi need you keep standing

 

[Enigma SIG]

“How could they capture a pilot in the air?"
Holy **** I AM LAUGHING AND CRYING at the same time.

 

[forcetrip]

Why don't you people stop sending terrorist in our land ??

Indian public is pissed to the limit on you guys. He just tried to ride on the emotional wave.

The issue is whatever we call them separatists, jihadis, atangwadis, revolutionists, freedom fighters every country backs a dog in a fight for land. You all successfully did it too in 71 and continue to do it to this day in 2 of our provinces. The problem is who spends the most on the narrative. India being a better growing economy has a lot of clout with arms and trade deals. To be very honest India is extremely good in keeping its subversion activities very compartmentalized and cautious. It pays more to get watered down results. But results nonetheless. So military targets like EWACs and coastal installations have a special place.

The indian public will believe their narrative and obviously be very upset at the current situation but no one will explain to them the problems they will face if they get what they ask for. Modi has been a god send in that regard. Another term of his and India and Pakistan might end up together instead of the extremely large economic differences. This might be the only way to wake up both sides that if you think things are worse now it could get even worse with having no access to even basic necessities for the entire population. India has worked hard for where it stands now and I will accept that Pakistan has done not much in terms of improving its situation. Pakistan is trying now. It recognizes its short comings and extreme nearsightedness by a few families that ruled here. India could come and start an unprecedented drive to not only solve the Kashmir issue but even Afghanistan and beyond. It could actually come out as a leader in this part of the hemisphere challenging China and Russia in every field. But noone understands what talks mean. I dont think that bearded guy with the black suit could sell that. Its a tragedy and I do know it wont escalate to full blown war. We saw the effects on the stocks a little skirmish had along with the flights schedules for half the world. Full blown war will be on water in the future. Just some incoherent thoughts that I wrote down due to being time pressed. Apologies for any sentences that dont make sense.

P.S - Talking about Kashmir does not mean giving Kashmir away. Explain that to your public and it will be a fantastic start.

 

[Republic]

You give right of self determination to Kashmir and there will be no terrorists

We can't. You are not seeing the logic and justice. We are not a religious country like Pakistan. We are a secular, democratic republic.

Person of every race, religion, cast, creed, and gender is entitled to go up to any post like the prime minister, president and chief of the army staff. People are ruling themselves by electing Surpanch, MLAs and MPs.

Provinces have their own Police. Police men are from their community and family. Police from other province can not enter into their province without their permission.
All the central security forces are there because Kashmir govt has requested for it and will remain there only till they permit.

So nobody can claim that he is being persecuted by the central government on the basis of religion, cast or creed. That's why a different religion or language or culture can not be made the base for separation from the union.

You are not getting it because your minority don't have these rights and you assume that Indian Muslims are like Pakistani Hindus. Infact in Pakistan, a minority has a right to claim a separate state, because it's Constitution does not provide equal rights to its minority.

Hope you will try to get to the situation with out getting offended.

 

[hassamun]

We can't. You are not seeing the logic and justice. We are not a religious country like Pakistan. We are a secular, democratic republic.

Person of every race, religion, cast, creed, and gender is entitled to go up to any post like the prime minister, president and chief of the army staff. People are ruling themselves by electing Surpanch, MLAs and MPs.

Provinces have their own Police. Police men are from their community and family. Police from other province can not enter into their province without their permission.

Islam is in Pakistan's Constitution, apart from that everything you mentioned can be relatable in Pakistan as well...

All the central security forces are there because Kashmir govt has requested for it and will remain there only till they permit.

So nobody can claim that he is being persecuted by the central government on the basis of religion, cast or creed. That's why a different religion or language or culture can not be made the base for separation from the union.

You are not getting it because your minority don't have these rights and you assume that Indian Muslims are like Pakistani Hindus. Infact in Pakistan, a minority has a right to claim a separate state, because it's Constitution does not provide equal rights to its minority.

Hope you will try to get to the situation with out getting offended.

Please read the Pakistan Constitution again as the following points are discussed:-

1.Freedom of trade, business or profession
2.Freedom of speech
3.Right to information
4.Freedom to profess religion and to manage religious institutions
5.Safeguard against taxation for purposes of any particular religion
6.Safeguard as to educational institutions in respect of religion
7.Provision as to property
8.Protection of property rights
9.Equality of citizens
10.Right to education
11.Non-discrimination in respect of access to public places
12.Safeguard against discrimination in services
13.Preservation of language, script and culture”

http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/constitution/part2.ch1.html

And please don't forget that Azad Kashmir has its own Prime Minister and Constitution...

 

[Republic]

Islam is in Pakistan's Constitution, apart from that everything you mentioned can be relatable in Pakistan as well...



Please read the Pakistan Constitution again as the following points are discussed:-

1.Freedom of trade, business or profession
2.Freedom of speech
3.Right to information
4.Freedom to profess religion and to manage religious institutions
5.Safeguard against taxation for purposes of any particular religion
6.Safeguard as to educational institutions in respect of religion
7.Provision as to property
8.Protection of property rights
9.Equality of citizens
10.Right to education
11.Non-discrimination in respect of access to public places
12.Safeguard against discrimination in services
13.Preservation of language, script and culture”

http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/constitution/part2.ch1.html

And please don't forget that Azad Kashmir has its own Prime Minister and Constitution...

Prey tell me, Do Constitution of Pakistan permits a Hindu, Christian, Buddhist or Ahmadia to become the president, prime minister or chief of the army staff of Pakistan ??

 

[Zee-shaun]

He finally talked, I waited for a long time

Lo ji, khoda pahad nikla chuhaw.
He didn't even mention Pakistan.
Darr gaya hai becharaw

 

[Sheikh Rauf]

Wow, I didn't know sane voices existed in India anymore.

Bravo, sir!

Its maybe they know what we are capable of. If you go to indian media they are still beating the drum of war and trying support of mudrer prime minister of india.

 

[Mamadouso]

We can't. You are not seeing the logic and justice. We are not a religious country like Pakistan. We are a secular, democratic republic.

Person of every race, religion, cast, creed, and gender is entitled to go up to any post like the prime minister, president and chief of the army staff. People are ruling themselves by electing Surpanch, MLAs and MPs.

Provinces have their own Police. Police men are from their community and family. Police from other province can not enter into their province without their permission.
All the central security forces are there because Kashmir govt has requested for it and will remain there only till they permit.

So nobody can claim that he is being persecuted by the central government on the basis of religion, cast or creed. That's why a different religion or language or culture can not be made the base for separation from the union.

You are not getting it because your minority don't have these rights and you assume that Indian Muslims are like Pakistani Hindus. Infact in Pakistan, a minority has a right to claim a separate state, because it's Constitution does not provide equal rights to its minority.

Hope you will try to get to the situation with out getting offended.

That may have been the situation in post war India, but now the leaders don’t even pay lip service to minorities. Full blown communal tensions are out in the open as Hindutva marches forward - I saw a story that right wing Hindus banned a Muslim village from reading prayers. Look at the murders of the people accused of eating beef etc

India is descending in to communal disorder as Modi and the likes have no interest anymore in supposed secular principles.

 

[R Wing]

That may have been the situation in post war India, but now the leaders don’t even pay lip service to minorities. Full blown communal tensions are out in the open as Hindutva marches forward - I saw a story that right wing Hindus banned a Muslim village from reading prayers. Look at the murders of the people accused of eating beef etc

India is descending in to communal disorder as Modi and the likes have no interest anymore in supposed secular principles.

That would make Modi the biggest ISI agent ever deployed --- he's helping prove that Muslims needed their own homeland and wouldn't be safe/heard under eventual Hindutva rule.

 

[Aasimkhan]

I have served there for two tenure.

If you people would have been in our place, you would have used tanks, and artiies like fata.
There is no persecution. Have you found any person migrated since last 30 years due to persecution ??

People can not live in persecution. They try to fled the place, like Syria, Iraq, Pakistani Hindus, Kashmiri pandits. They can not dare to stone the persecuting force. Apply some logic.

Don't go for those videos, most of them are fake, others are quoted out of context.

Why dont you implement the UN resolutions on which you signed 60 years ago?

 

[Republic]

That may have been the situation in post war India, but now the leaders don’t even pay lip service to minorities. Full blown communal tensions are out in the open as Hindutva marches forward - I saw a story that right wing Hindus banned a Muslim village from reading prayers. Look at the murders of the people accused of eating beef etc

India is descending in to communal disorder as Modi and the likes have no interest anymore in supposed secular principles.

That is a simple law and order problem. Some wasted interest took revenge some where and gave it communal colour. In other places some goons tried to extort money.

More incidents have happened where Muslims lynched Hindus, Muslims lynched Muslims and Hindu lynched Hindus.

That is not a common thing. No Muslim has ever migrated to Pakistan due to lynching.

All are fighting cases And Hindus are giving witness in court. Ours is a diverse country. Problems happen, but we have been managing. In democracy governments use to come and go. It take its strength from its institutions, not politicians.

PS: Nobody in India can ban a Muslim prayer. These news are spread by wasted interest. Most of the cases belong to illegal land grabbing. This is a drawback of democracy. But people are getting more and more wise.

Why dont you implement the UN resolutions on which you signed 60 years ago?

That resolution has to be implemented by both parties. You create situation of 60 years ago, take back land you gave to China, call your army back. Call Panjabi population back, and we will conduct the plebiscite.

But tell me one thing, If Kashmiri Pandits refuse to live with Muslims, will you grant them other nation ?
If not then will you suggest them to go back to India ?? If yes then why this logic should not be applied to Muslims ?

 

[Dark-Destroyer]

India got a real nice surprise lol

 

[hassamun]

Prey tell me, Do Constitution of Pakistan permits a Hindu, Christian, Buddhist or Ahmadia to become the president, prime minister or chief of the army staff of Pakistan ??

I have provided you a link...No where it says a president, prime minister or chief of the army staff of Pakistan has to be a Muslim...In a country of 97% Muslims its pretty obvious that who will get these Posts...In my personal experience I have seen Senior Officials in the Military who are non-Muslim....

 

[Republic]

I have provided you a link...No where it says a president, prime minister or chief of the army staff of Pakistan has to be a Muslim...In a country of 97% Muslims its pretty obvious that who will get these Posts...In my personal experience I have seen Senior Officials in the Military who are non-Muslim....

You should read it again. Your Constitution prohibits clearly.
Read Art 41 (2) and 91 (3).

There are many discriminations in your Constitution which you don't even notice and see as normal, but they are discriminatory.
Read it here-
https://sahsol.lums.edu.pk/law-jour...s-discrimination-against-religious-minorities

Regards.