Modi conferred ‘Grand Collar of the State of Palestine’

[TruthTheOnlyDefense]

Sounds like it's a dog collar.

 

[Kambojaric]

That concept is a Muslim concept that Pakistanis are not alone with. Arabs too are taught this from early school years (I was taught this too and even by my parents who emphasizes that while the current world is a jungle, you should stick closest to those that you are most familiar with and share the most with in that jungle and here Muslims were one of those groups, compared to say Papuans or Mexicans).

That's wrong. There are many Arabs who focus on Islamic solitary rather than ethnic solidarity. Many in fact. Arabs are still "tribal" people to some extent and as in every tribal society (Pashtuns and Baloch can recognize this - I believe that you are a Punjabi so maybe less here) the biggest disagreements can often occur among each other.

Maybe in GCC nations but in countries like Lebanon, Syria and amongst Palestinians as well secularism and ethnic focused nationalism has deep roots. To this day organizations like the PLO or the Ba'athist inspired parties of the wider region are openly secular and base their core ideology on ethno-linguistic nationalism, not religion.

Pakistan has not recognized Israel due to the love of Palestinians or Arabs (or lack thereof) but due to Pakistani religious sentients and due to the religious importance of that land and its holy sites. If that was not the case the average Pakistani would know/care as little (IMO) about this conflict as you do when it comes to the Darfur conflict.

Is the Palestinian issue closer to heart due to the religious significance of places like Jerusalem, sure il accept that, yet Pakistani people have proven that their fervour does not just revolve around Palestinians . Hundreds of thousands of Rohingya have been given refuge, millions of Afghans have been given refuge in the country for decades (despite the hostile relations with the government in Kabul), hundreds of Bosnians were given refuge during the 90s (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...iven-a-warm-welcome-in-a-distant-1493968.html). Despite being an already impoverished country, Pakistan has done its fair share for the ummah taking into consideration the country's financial situation. As for Darfur the Sudanese government is Muslim as well so its not a religious issue but rather ethnic. This automatically results in reduced media traction.

That is due to Pakistan (IMO) doing a bad job (media wise, politically) at highlighting what is going on. Most Arabs and Muslim are not familiar with day to day Indian-Pakistani political feuds, do not speak Hindi or Urdu or other regional languages, do not travel much to Pakistan or India (at least not that part of the region) and Pakistani media have almost no presence in Arabic language and the ones that have a presence in English, are for a limited community (Pakistanis). For instance I first learned about the existence of the Pakistani newspaper (Dawn) here on PDF. Otherwise I would likely never have discovered it. And reading some articles from that newspaper, it seems that it is more pro-India and anti-Arab and anti-Pakistan than it is pro-Pakistan.

We could do a better job, but at the end of the day what is going on in Kashmir is covered widely around global media.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/jul/09/mass-graves-of-kashmir
https://scroll.in/article/811468/the-killing-fields-of-jammu-when-it-was-muslims-who-were-eliminated
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...rs-face-off-against-pellet-guns-idUSKBN19S1PI
https://dailynewsegypt.com/tag/kashmir/

Therefore the idea that the world does not know what Muslims are going through in Kashmir does not hold up. Even in religious Arab circles Kashmir has very little significance. I have gone to Arab dominated mosques most of my life here in Sweden and where there will always be a dua for Surya, Filisteen, Misr etc at the end of prayers there will rarely ever be a mention of Kashmir unless a very significant event like the earthquake of 2005 took place. Again I am not doing a blame game here and am not angry with Arabs or any other foreign group for putting their own interests first. Just stating things as they are. At the end of the day we have to learn from reality. Our government is already doing this by for example engaging in a balancing act between Saudi Arabia and Iran, just as Saudi Arabia does with India and Pakistan. However the general Pakistani populace assume that since religion comes first, Iranians and Saudis will set aside their hatred to support the Kashmiri cause.

BTW what I tried to get across here on this thread, is that I believe that the reason why Pakistanis are higgling Arabs here (when you could easily highlight Chinese, Iranians, Turks and ALL other majority Muslim peoples and nations since they all have relations with India) is that you have too high expectations of Arabs that might be religiously or historically motivated. Many Pakistanis seem not to understand (either) that Arabs have many problems of our own and that our leaderships (which is a general trend in the Muslim world, including Pakistan) is far from representative (always). Thus this creates a division between ruler and ruled. For instance when the ruler of Abu Dhabi is saying some words in Hindi that I do not even know fully, it makes it appear like all 2 million Emiraits are clued to the screen trying to (at the same time) pronounce the words with a grin on their face.

True. In a general Pakistani mindset Arabs are respected for their pivotal role in Islam. Since Pakistan is a fervently Muslim country, these said people assume Arabs will naturally support Pakistan on issues like Kashmir. The realization that this wont happen but that Arab nations will look after their own interests first comes as a huge slap to them. Ultimately our populace needs to grow up and realize there are no emotional sentiments like this in international relations. Countries play for their own gain. This maturity will come with time I hope.