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Unfortunately the US has not been the same since the Patriot Act was passed which stipulates certain indemnities to the agencies. Which makes these actions well within the law. Consequently the same guarantees have not been given to the ISI by the legislatures.
HAhaha.. So ISI is calling itself RAW and MOSSAD?!?!?
So Asim tell e why don't you start a crusade against feudals and corrupt political leaders. They have far more to answer than ISI??
They are the bloodsuckers in Pakistan first and foremost
This word crusade is wrong first of all, it makes me look like a one time wonder who is picking on one issue, I'm picking on a multitude of issues relating to curbing freedoms of Pakistanis.
Feudal lord, corrupt politician, Mullah, doesn't excuse anything does it?
First I don't see an issue here at all. You and others are falling into a trap set up and propagated by the west that our ISI is out of control. Show me, take me to the evidence that you have alluded to earlier. If not I think none exists. Next why are you not answering me when I ask you Why should Pakistan's ISI be held to a higher standard than RAW CIA Mossad the agencies with which it competes with?? Please tell me why you want to tie our boys up in a way that India America and Israel don't??
I look forward to seeing your contribution on feudalism etc on the forum
Oh really. Do you really believe this? An american will be arrested for talking against CIA ?no one in America can get away with talking that much against its security agencies. he would get a rude awakening at 2 or clock in the morning and that will be the last of him his family will ever know.
one even has to word his sentence very carefully while on the phone. say some wrong words in a combination that NSA or CIA doesnt approve and boy you are history.
ISI should prove it in court.
Not that difficult. Of course the majority of cases wouldn't be public. But the Judiciaries in other countries accept that National Security is something Judiciary does not interfere in
The Corbett Report | Courts Rule US Government Above the Law
18 October, 2011
Manhattan Federal Judge Alvin Hellerstein has declined to hold the CIA in contempt for destroying videos that it had been ordered by the courts to preserve.
The case revolves around 92 videos, depicting hundreds of hours of interrogations of detainees. The tapes allegedly contained evidence of torture, and the CIA was ordered by numerous courts to produce the videos in relation to lawsuits arising from torture allegations. The 9/11 Commission also demanded that the tapes be produced. Instead, the agency destroyed them.
Although the Obama Justice Department had already decided last year that no criminal charges would be filed for this blatant obstruction of justice, Judge Hellerstein’s recent ruling insures that the agency will not even face civil sanctions or so much as a contempt order for willfully breaking the law.
In his ruling, Judge Hellerstein, the very judge who had ordered the CIA to produce the tapes in September of 2004, notes that the agency had instead provided a description of what they say was on the tapes and “implemented new protocols” to insure that they don’t destroy evidence again, so there is no need to hold them accountable in any way.
Judge Hellerstein’s decision is not without precedent.
In 2010, Obama’s Office of Legal Council wrote a memo arguing the legality of Obama’s secret list of assassination targets, a list that apparently includes American citizens who have not been convicted or even charged of a crime. The memo was used as the legal justification for the extrajudicial assassination of Anwar al-Awlaki, a US citizen who the President ordered murdered early last year.
Now, the Obama White House is arguing that they don’t even have to show the justification for ordering the unconstitutional assassination of one of its own citizens.
Still, concerned citizens are attempting to challenge the Obama regime’s power grabs in court.
Earlier this year, Senator Wyden revealed that the federal government has a secret interpretation of the PATRIOT Act that allows the government much more power than is suggested by the wording of the act itself.
When Charlie Savage of the New York Times filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the interpretation, he was denied on the basis that the interpretation is classified.
Last week, Savage and the Times sued the federal government for refusing to release the documents. The case is currently before Judge William Pauley of the US District Court.
Well, Aryan_B, why, if you think the CIA is terrible, don't you think it's necessary for Pakistan to hold the ISI to a higher standard?
Well, Aryan_B, why, if you think the CIA is terrible, don't you think it's necessary for Pakistan to hold the ISI to a higher standard?
The chief justice asked the defence counsel if the agencies had any credible information of the involvement of RAW and Mossad, and why they did not take any against them. We did not bar you from taking action against RAW and Mossad.
Interesting. The court assumes that if the ISI really had found such evidence it would have taken retaliatory action.
Am I the only one disturbed by the clear implication that the next time the ISI wants to cover up something it should attack Israel or India and then the court will take a hands-off approach?
First I don't see an issue here at all. You and others are falling into a trap set up and propagated by the west that our ISI is out of control. Show me, take me to the evidence that you have alluded to earlier. If not I think none exists. Next why are you not answering me when I ask you Why should Pakistan's ISI be held to a higher standard than RAW CIA Mossad the agencies with which it competes with?? Please tell me why you want to tie our boys up in a way that India America and Israel don't??
I look forward to seeing your contribution on feudalism etc on the forum