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[xenon54 out]

yeah as I thought you dont understand a thing.. also you are not the one to judge me if I am a muslim or not..

so you mean islam has no place in the state like the kemalist do? you want the quran teached in school? you want the language of the quran being teached in school? do´you want islamic law ?

pls answer me I am very curious

Why are you living in Germany if you want all this?

 

[Timur]

I never wrote such thing before, you just pull this out of your A$$ to change the topic.

You insulted Kemalists right and left by using non-exist assumption where i showed you, but your hatred towards us will increase as long as national armed platforms getting out of the factories.

Using Islam as a shield will not save your a$$ this time.

you talk about non existent assumption.. but you know that it is true, even in kemal sunal movies.. in school in every field from language to media it is present and everywhere are the fingerprints but you decide to say the elite of them are not like this everything is non existent..

you did not answer my questions.. just one.. so 3 are remaining..

you just pull this out of your A$$ to change the topic.

no not to save my ***.. you began with killing you began with all that and now you are pissed because I do the same tactic? but I tell you why I asked for that, because you played the muslim card.. so we have to see what your thoughts are.. tell me what you think about that:

you want the quran teached in school? you want the language of the quran being teached in school? do´you want islamic law ?

Why are you living in Germany if you want all this?

you do not want all this?

 

[xenon54 out]

We all have excuses. To me, Israel is not occupying. To you, it is.

To the UN, Turkey is occupying.

That's life.

With the difference that Turkey had legal right to intervene when Turkish minority was targeted.

Treaty of Guarantee (1960)

 

[OguzSenturk]

you began with killing

We were talking about war, and the difference between civilians and conscripted armed troops in a war.

Maybe you should have to read thread carefully, before commenting your insults on Kemalists!

 

[xenon54 out]

you do not want all this?

Everything has its place, religion belongs to mosques, education belogs to schools, food belongs to kitchen etc. etc.

 

[xenon54 out]

that is not right.. religion doesnt belong to the mosque or your home.. reducing it to this is inappropriate

if it is so than can we eat helal in the mosque and eat haram in cinema?

Look not every student is Muslim and you know forcing is actually forbidden in Islam, leave the schools alone, their purpose is to educate children for a future, if you want your children to recieve religious education then send to them to courses at weekend nobody is stopping you but you also dont have the right to enforce religion on people.

 

[Timur]

Look not every student is Muslim and you know forcing is actually forbidden in Islam, leave the schools alone, their purpose is to educate children for a future, if you want your children to recieve religious education then send to them to courses at weekend nobody is stopping you but you also dont have the right to enforce religion on people.

that has nothing to do with forcing, again you are reducing your deen to your home, the mosque, the weekend.. that is not the way of the giants of islam.. thats not Umars way neither abu bakr, ali, or uthman..

also dont have the right to enforce religion on people

 

[xenon54 out]

that has nothing to do with forcing, again you are reducing your deen to your home, the mosque, the weekend.. that is not the way of the giants of islam.. thats not Umars way neither abu bakr, ali, or uthman..

Ok since you take all of this so serious then tell me why you are using Internet, why are you watching Television, why listening to music, why living in kuffar land full of indecent clothed women?

If you dont care about those but about teaching Quran in schools then sry but its quite hypocritical of you.

 

[TruthHurtz]

hell both are ugly af, literally 5/10 where i am tbh

 

[xenon54 out]

Well unless you have a different schooling like Salafis or somethign because back then when i went to mosque its was explicitely mentioned not to enforce religion on anyone since espacially we are living in a christian land.

 

[Timur]

Ok since you take all of this so serious then tell me why you are using Internet, Why are you watching Television, why listening to music, why living in kuffar land full of indecent clothed women?

If you dont care about those but about teaching Quran in scholls then sry but its quite hypocritical of you.

so where should I live, give me an excample..

it is not haram to use inernet..
I dont watch TV, I dont listen to music..
living in kuffar land gives us many opportunities while it is hard to live there because of many fitna..

Well unless you have a different schooling like Salafis or somethign because back then when i went to mosque its was explicitely mentioned not to enforce religion on anyone since espacially we are living in a christian land.

there is no enforcing of ppl to islam.. because of that I used that smiley..

 

[xenon54 out]

so where should I live, give me an excample..

it is not haram to use inernet..
I dont watch TV, I dont listen to music..
living in kuffar land gives us many opportunities while it is hard to live there because of many fitna..

Isnt there a lot Human and Animal pictures in Internet, arent there videos? So you avoid all of them? If not then its haram and you should stop using it too.

so where should I live, give me an excample..

it is not haram to use inernet..
I dont watch TV, I dont listen to music..
living in kuffar land gives us many opportunities while it is hard to live there because of many fitna..

In a sharia ruled country that fits you way of life more maybe.

there is no enforcing of ppl to islam.. because of that I used that smiley..

There is if you want to make Quran compulsory in Schools.

 

[Timur]

Isnt there a lot Human and Animal pictures in Internet, arent there videos? So you avoid all of them? If not then its haram and you should stop using it too.


In a sharia ruled country that fits you way of life more maybe.


There is if you want to make Quran compulsory in Schools.

so you mean we need no dawa?

I never talked about the hows but you cant imagine a way with quran in schools? even if you live in europe?

 

[xenon54 out]

so you mean we need no dawa?

I never talked about the hows but you cant imagine a way with quran in schools? even if you live in europe?

Teaching about religion in schools is something even in switzerland Quran gets read in religion class, but using schools to teach quran for exsample is wrong.

What you can do is teach all religions to students so they know whats important according to which religion but i know this is not what you aim, its something completely different.

 

[Timur]

Teaching about religion in schools is something even in switzerland Quran gets read in religion class, but using schools to teach quran for exsample is wrong.

What you can do is teach all religions to students so they know whats important according to which religion but i know this is not what you aim, its something completely different.

In EU - it is normal to even teach the bible with someone from church.. its a lesson like math but its called religionsunterricht.. but I know you guys dont even want this..

the reality is you two guys do not want anything of this... you do not want the quran applied in school or government.. and even forming the society according to it..

thats your ideology.. and I think that I am not the one to change that..

we can disguss it here but we will not come to a soulution and you know why (I am not to go an inch backwards)

you seem not to be like the ruffian before so lets end it here I am gonna sleep