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Ministry of Defence must push for an Indian gun

India's indigenous defence complex is at a crucial moment where a resolute decision could make it a genuine supplier of high-end artillery equipment, writes Ajai Shukla

In adversity, the saying goes, lies opportunity. Applying that principle, India's indigenous defence complex is at a crucial moment where a resolute decision could make it a genuine supplier of high-end artillery equipment, instead of a mere spectator to a global shopping spree by the Indian military.

Last Friday, the Ministry of Defence signalled (if confirmation were needed) that it lacks the political will to cast aside the procedure in selecting a 155-millimetre artillery gun for the army.

With the CBI proceeding against Singapore Technologies Kinetic (STK), one of the two remaining companies in the fray, the MoD restarted the entire process of tendering and trials rather than awarding the contract to the sole vendor remaining, UK-headquartered BAE Systems, which offered the politically contentious Bofors gun.
It is time to end this long-playing farce of trial and rejection and put the MoD and global vendors of artillery systems out of their misery.
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The Indian Army must be frankly told that it will receive no 155-mm guns for the next five-to-seven years. And a predominantly Indian consortium must be brought together to build an Indian gun within that period.

There are systems that remain beyond the capability of India's defence establishment. Aircraft engines, even tank engines, have proven too complex for India to develop.

The DRDO has also been unable to produce world-class night-vision devices; electro-optic sensors; and electronically scanned radars.

But India's growing technological capability has given it the capability to take on projects that were unthinkable two decades ago: fourth-generation fighters; advanced warships; even a tank with a gun that has proven to be world class.India has the skills for building a 155-mm artillery gun; leadership is needed to bring them together.

The DRDO, increasingly sophisticated and technologically capable, is yearning to harness the proven manufacturing skills of India's private sector.


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Global majors like Bharat Forge and L&T are straining at the leash, willing to put money and muscle into what they have identified as a promising business vertical.
The Pinaka multi-barrelled rocket launcher (MBRL) has already proven how effectively the DRDO can leverage the private sector's manufacturing skills.


A state-of-the-art system, with electronics that are superior to even Russian frontline MBRLs, a single Pinaka regiment can obliterate a target 40 km away by pouring down 72 rockets onto it in just 44 seconds.

The DRDO's choice of L&T and Tata Power as industrial partners in the Pinaka project ensured that a quality design was enhanced by skilled manufacture.


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In the past, poor manufacturing practices, especially those of the public sector Ordnance Factory Board, had tarnished the reputation of otherwise well-designed DRDO products like the 5.56-mm INSAS rifle.

The MoD must bring together a public-private consortium, forming a joint venture (JV) -- call it, for now, the Indian Artillery Project -- in which the DRDO, the Indian Army, and the prime private sector participants have financial stakes.

The structure of the JV must allow for quick and flexible decision-making, without crippling regulations that mandate multi-vendor tendering and L-1 (lowest cost) procurement.

And, most importantly, a project management group must be drawn from the IAP partners to set and monitor timelines ruthlessly.

The army will understandably resist this project, being desperately short of artillery and wanting guns.


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The most crucial component of combat capability, artillery guns -- firing high explosive shells at faraway targets -- have caused three quarters of all battlefield casualties over the last century of wars.

But the soldiers will come around, given assurances about delivery within a clear time frame.


Their choice is a stark one: continuing trials of foreign guns with no light certain at the end of the tunnel; or an official moratorium of five-to-seven years, followed by the simplified procurement processes of indigenous equipment.

The army is also aware that an indigenous 155-mm gun can be integrated ground-up into the overarching Artillery Command, Control and Communications System (ACCCS) that networks artillery resources into a seamless whole.


If that is acceptable to the army, it must frame its requirements realistically, rather than demanding a system so advanced that it remains a dream.

If a range of 40 km will suffice tactically, it is self-defeating to hold up the project by asking for 50 km. The DRDO too, with its institutional love for living in the future, will have to be firmly pegged to the here and now.


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Constituting and financing the Indian Artillery Project will be small change, given what the MoD plans to pay global vendors for the four different 155-mm guns that the army needs.

Multiple procurements are simultaneously unfolding under the MoD-sanctioned Artillery Modernisation Plan.

The tender for 1,580 towed guns is worth an estimated Rs 8,000 crore. Another tender for 140 ultralight howitzers for mountain formations is worth over Rs 3,000 crore.

Also being processed is a Rs 3,500 crore purchase of 100 medium guns, mounted on tracked vehicles, for India's mechanised forces. Another Rs 4,000 crore is earmarked for 180 vehicle-mounted guns for self-propelled regiments. The total money in play here is some Rs 18,500 crore.


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The MoD's procurement procedures have a "Make" category, which has been envisioned for just such a project. The time for the Indian Artillery Project is now.

Ministry of Defence must push for an Indian gun: Rediff.com News
 
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New Foreign Guns wud also Take 5 Years Almost to come.. Better make Indegenous Guns :cheers: :cheers:

But Army Also Fights War as Fiercely with DRDO as it does with Pakistan :lol::lol: Army wud re-tender it and wud wait for Foreign guns only:undecided:
 
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New Foreign Guns wud also Take 5 Years Almost to come.. Better make Indegenous Guns :cheers: :cheers:

But Army Also Fights War as Fiercely with DRDO as it does with Pakistan :lol::lol: Army wud re-tender it and wud wait for Foreign guns only:undecided:

Yes DRDO should develop indigenous Guns, But for short term, it should make fast purchase from foreign vendors.
 
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Do anything - Get these God damn Guns in hands of Soldiers , what are they waiting for . Are they expecting us to reply the 155mm gun firing from across border with Assault Rifle .

These bloody morons need another Kargil like slap on their faces to realize , a strong defence is more imp than their Vote banks .
 
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Yeah and if Indigenous Gun is delayed like other - Arjun,LCA,NAG etc.........

We better be ready for two front war with only 200 155mm -Bofors guns
 
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Yeah and if Indigenous Gun is delayed like other - Arjun,LCA,NAG etc.........

We better be ready for two front war with only 200 155mm -Bofors guns

.. Wht U expect..Wht Next ?? When will new Guns come and in how many years ???
 
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Wht U expect..Wht Next ?? When will new Guns come and in how many years ???

I have no answer to that ........

Regarding Guns , we have placed order for stored stocks of 139mm gun from Russia .
Army saw this coming , so some Damage control has been done .

This bureaucracy , corruption in MoD has really made a joke of this procurement , next thing will be " Army wants gun , but no company left since CBI has blacklisted all companies in world "
 
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I have no answer to that ........

Regarding Guns , we have placed order for stored stocks of 139mm gun from Russia .
Army saw this coming , so some Damage control has been done .

This bureaucracy , corruption in MoD has really made a joke of this procurement , next thing will be " Army wants gun , but no company left since CBI has blacklisted all companies in world "

Will American Artillery ordered ease some pressure ??.. I sometimes wonder is America Scuttling deals which goes to European Countries..??:undecided:
 
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New Foreign Guns wud also Take 5 Years Almost to come.. Better make Indegenous Guns :cheers: :cheers:

But Army Also Fights War as Fiercely with DRDO as it does with Pakistan :lol::lol: Army wud re-tender it and wud wait for Foreign guns only:undecided:
The top brass needs to realize the potential our country has in such a field. When we have companies like L&T, TATA defense, etc. Why the hell does it always want foreign stuff??

You are right. It'd take another 5 years for the entire set of artillery guns to arrive. I think we should let L&T and Bhara Forge to get in and start designing and developing such stuff. Look at Pinaka's success.

I think that's what the government is afraid of; success of private sector and Army's eventual swerving to the private firms than the phisaddi government junk and therefore ruin the Socialist $h*** setup that would end their kickback supply.

That's why they ask their stooges in top brass of Army to ask for requirements so high that our local companies cannot cover in an immediate production.
 
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Will American Artillery ordered ease some pressure ??..

Yes , it will .
No doubt , we need extra MIBG in our NE mountain . These guns come in handy (ULH ones ).

Days of Towed Artillery are nearing end (IA may be last few to order these) , what we need more ASAP is Wheeled/Tracked ones .
Self-propelled Guns will define the Future battle
 
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shame in this 60 years we couldn't even build a indeginous gun.
That includes a proper assault rifle other than the 3-round-burst INSAS with wooden base and butt stock! I think we have the capability to make better guns than Fn-2000 and TAR-21. But it requires sincerity and dedication to the country that politicians don't have.
 
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shame in this 60 years we couldn't even build a indeginous gun.

We did build many guns , get informed please

there was 105mm Indian Field Gun

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There is the rifled gun on the Arjun

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The INSAS Rifle

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Anti Material Rifle Vidhwansak

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Minsas Personal Carbine

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Kalantak Micro Assault Rifle

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MSMC Modern Sub Machine Carbine

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Although i would love to DRDO to develop these -- But to my comfort DRDO has hardly achived the timelines that they have promised to achieve.

So please order some guns -- lets take all these indigenious building to some later point.
 
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There is the rifled gun on the Arjun

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Gogbot -- Rifled gun is an import from Germany -- From Rhinemetal (i dont know the spell -- but basically the leopard gun).

Rifled gun is one of the most complex guns in gun making industry -- i would be surprised if DRDO managed to make these on their own.
 
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