Military lessons from latest Palestine - Israel confrontation?

[CrazyZ]

I would to discuss what military lessons other members saw in the latest Palestine - Israel clash. My takeaways:

• Even the best ballistic defenses can be overwelled by massed fire
• Rockets have a shoot and scoot advantages over gun artillery
• Underground bunkering is the best way to avoid modern airstrikes
• Light forces can more easily evade modern airstrikes (especially in built up areas)
• Insurgent forces are getting better at mitigating the impacts of modern air warfare (on going trend over the last 20 years).
• Also, considering Afghanistan and Yemen....$100mill-$200mill fighter bombers didn't significantly turn the tide in these conflicts. No wonder USAF is looking for low cost alternative to F-35.
• Social Media is playing a bigger and bigger role in the information war. It is becoming harder and harder for centralized cabals to control the narrative. SMQ should of used my language....reporter would really gone bonkers

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

Iron dome can intercept slower short range rockets but faster longer ranged rockets can get trough.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1392699596053356546

 

[CrazyZ]

Iron dome can intercept slower short range rockets but faster longer ranged rockets can get trough.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1392699596053356546

Israeli have other systems for that. But those can probably be overwhelmed by massed fire/decoys as well, IMO.

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

Israeli have other systems for that. But those can probably be overwhelmed by massed fire/decoys as well, IMO.

Israel has David's sling (medium) and Arrow 3 (long range) ABM.

 

[zectech]

Palestine is low on rockets/missiles. So lesson learned is even 10s of thousands of missiles and rockets is not enough. The Lebanese Resistance needs many millions projectiles: rockets/missiles/anti-tank vs APS tanks/AShM/etc.

As Isreal is re-supplying and building more capabilities. Syria needs more ADS, artillery, missiles, etc. Is Palestine low on missiles and cannot sustain a many months long battle. That means Iran would have to rescue with using Lebanese resistance, which is not desirable.

As trump does not stop with the anti-China vomit, even releasing a bioweapon on the world and blaming China, Netanyahu is not gonna stop in warmongering. Provoking incidents is what both do.

Peace and building up your military is the solution. This is merely a pause and Iran is aware of this.

 

[touela]

I have been wondering - Hamas missiles have no guidance systems. Is it possible to make simple inertial guidance systems and use them?

Iran must have thought that.

 

[Mujahid Memon]

Palestine is low on rockets/missiles. So lesson learned is even 10s of thousands of missiles and rockets is not enough. The Lebanese Resistance needs many millions projectiles: rockets/missiles/anti-tank vs APS tanks/AShM/etc.

As Isreal is re-supplying and building more capabilities. Syria needs more ADS, artillery, missiles, etc. Is Palestine low on missiles and cannot sustain a many months long battle. That means Iran would have to rescue with using Lebanese resistance, which is not desirable.

As trump does not stop with the anti-China vomit, even releasing a bioweapon on the world and blaming China, Netanyahu is not gonna stop in warmongering. Provoking incidents is what both do.

Peace and building up your military is the solution. This is merely a pause and Iran is aware of this.

Israel cannot sustain a multi front war from Hamas+Fatah+Hezbollah+Syria+Iraq militia but unfortunately these all organizations are not united to do that

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

Israel cannot sustain a multi front war from Hamas+Fatah+Hezbollah+Syria+Iraq militia but unfortunately these all organizations are not united to do that

Israel does not have to sustain a multi front war as long as the United States is sub servient to the "Jewish state".

 

[Mujahid Memon]

Israel does not have to sustain a multi front war as long as the United States is sub servient to the "Jewish state".

US has its own limitations otherwise we would not have witnessed Vietnam 2.0 in Afghan mountains

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

1. be strong
2. don't be weak

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

US has its own limitations otherwise we would not have witnessed Vietnam 2.0 in Afghan mountains

If Syria ,Iraq, Lebanon and Iran were to actively engage Israel militarily and start to get the upper hand, you think the U.S will just sit back and watch with its Air and Naval assets in the region? The U.S does not need to invade with ground troops to be able to intervene on Israel's behalf.

 

[Trango Towers]

I would to discuss what military lessons other members saw in the latest Palestine - Israel clash. My takeaways:

• Even the best ballistic defenses can be overwelled by massed fire
• Rockets have a shoot and scoot advantages over gun artillery
• Underground bunkering is the best way to avoid modern airstrikes
• Light forces can more easily evade modern airstrikes (especially in built up areas)
• Insurgent forces are getting better at mitigating the impacts of modern air warfare (on going trend over the last 20 years).
• Also, considering Afghanistan and Yemen....$100mill-$200mill fighter bombers didn't significantly turn the tide in these conflicts. No wonder USAF is looking for low cost alternative to F-35.
• Social Media is playing a bigger and bigger role in the information war. It is becoming harder and harder for centralized cabals to control the narrative. SMQ should of used my language....reporter would really gone bonkers

Add to this cheap drones with good accurate targeting and rockets with MIRV is the future. When they start to hit iron dome batteries with nap or the earth flying drones. Israel will be in a shit. And its coming. If we can see it so can Hamas Hezbullah and all the weaker nations

 

[CrazyZ]

Palestine is low on rockets/missiles. So lesson learned is even 10s of thousands of missiles and rockets is not enough. The Lebanese Resistance needs many millions projectiles: rockets/missiles/anti-tank vs APS tanks/AShM/etc.

As Isreal is re-supplying and building more capabilities. Syria needs more ADS, artillery, missiles, etc. Is Palestine low on missiles and cannot sustain a many months long battle. That means Iran would have to rescue with using Lebanese resistance, which is not desirable.

As trump does not stop with the anti-China vomit, even releasing a bioweapon on the world and blaming China, Netanyahu is not gonna stop in warmongering. Provoking incidents is what both do.

Peace and building up your military is the solution. This is merely a pause and Iran is aware of this.

"Amateur's talk tactics, professionals talk logistics"
US Marine Corp General

Warfare at the strategic level is about logistics.

If Syria ,Iraq, Lebanon and Iran were to actively engage Israel militarily and start to get the upper hand, you think the U.S will just sit back and watch with its Air and Naval assets in the region? The U.S does not need to invade with ground troops to be able to intervene on Israel's behalf.

30 years ago I would agree. Nowadays I'm not so sure. Either way....Warfare from a geo-political level is about alliances.