Military Balance of Turkish & Hellenic Air Forces in the Region

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You don't even have 1 re malaka!

Turkiye has 192 F-16 to use 600 km Radar of Boeing E-7T AEWC via link16 data link to detect Greek F-16V and Rafale from 350+ km away

Pathetic Greece has only 30 F-16 block52+ and 2 F-16V and 7 Rafale with this capability

Turkiye : 192 Fighter Jets
Greece : 39 Fighter Jets

learn about your weak power malaka

Yes,arm them first and then we talk.

4 months ago you also said first produce 6 AKINCI then we talk.
today there are 12 AKINCI

Dont worry , in a conflict AKINCI UCAVs will wake up Greeks from their dreams

Dubious quality

@Akritas He keeps going on about link16

High quality Turkish GaN based AESA Radar technology which is only a few countries in the world

Yes learn about network centric warfare via link16 data link aptal daydreamers

HOW? YOU DON'T KNOW THAT! THAT'S WHAT HE SAID! YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A DEAL YET!

We have deal with ASELSAN

 

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There are 3 other countries that need to approve -- Germany, Spain and Italy

Maybe for new Fighter Jets
but no need to approve for British Eurofighters which already in service

btw The UK developed - produced Eurofighter .. based on British technology including engine

without the UK , 3 Countries Germany, Spain and Italy have no technology to develop Eurofighter with turbofan engine

 

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We came to an important point in building a professional commander or high-ranking officer capable of managing comprehensive air battles. Requires 15-25 years of experience The Turks simply overthrew their leadership in 2016, as well as the next 300 pilots. What is available in Turkey is junior leaders and pilots with almost no experience. While stability for the Greeks provided them with more experienced and more professional leaders, the Turkish pilots simply escaped from working in the Turkish Air Force simply because of their poor salaries, which always makes the lack of experience and competencies in the Turkish Air Force an essential matter for Turkey

wake up this is not 2016 , this is 2022

over 200 experienced Turkish pilots returned to the Turkish Air Force from Turkish Airlines and other private companies

We have seen 6 Greek F-16 pilots over the Eastern Mediterranean

Turkish F-16s removed 6 Greek F-16s from Navtex area

 

[Foinikas]

even PATRIOT and S300 will be destroyed by Turkish Ballistic - Cruise Missiles and anti-radiation kamikaze Drones in a day and GAME OVER !

Yes of course,Turkish missiles,even American-made,always magically hit their target

also KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jets

That would be a great buy as a gap filler until the TFX fleets in 2032-2035

AND IF KIZELELMA AND TFX FAIL TO BE PRODUCED,JUST LIKE ALTAY???

Maybe for new Fighter Jets
but no need to approve for British Eurofighters which already in service

btw The UK developed - produced Eurofighter .. based on British technology including engine

without the UK , 3 Countries Germany, Spain and Italy have no technology to develop Eurofighter with turbofan engine

The Eurofighter project is not the sole property of Britain. You have to get approval from the other countries too. Let's see how much Germany and Italy will agree...

Eurofighter Typhoon

Captor-E AESA Radar
IRST
METEOR Air to Air Missile

We already have AESA,IRIS-T and Meteor

 

[Foinikas]

Oh you mean.............................................this?

 

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The Americans were the ones who sold Greece 70 OH-58D aircraft, as well as 1,200 armored vehicles to protect the Greek islands from any Turkish aggression. Therefore, America will be among the countries that will stand against the Turks
The same thing, France, Italy, Germany, they are all against Turkish ambitions, and this puts the Turks in a dilemma

We have seen loser team in 1922 and 1974

Nobody can save tiny Greece ... Greek Islands only 2-10-30 km away from Turkiye
so easy to-retake our Islands in a conflict


and keep dreaming with 70 OH-58D and 24 AH-64

Turkiye has 250+ UCAVs , 83 T-129 and 10 AH-1W
also T-929 heavy Attack Helicopter maiden flight in 2023

and Turkiye has its own missiles HISAR-A , HISAR-O , SIPER , GOKDOGAN , BOZDOGAN to turn 70 OH-58D and 24 AH-64 into crap of metal

in a conflict , Turkish Armed Forces will create no fly zone over the Islands which are 2-10-30 km away from Turkiye

 

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AND IF KIZELELMA AND TFX FAIL TO BE PRODUCED,JUST LIKE ALTAY???

ALTAY Tank is not aviation project
and ALTAY Tank enter mass production with Korean engine in 2023

no any failed Turkish military project

The Eurofighter project is not the sole property of Britain. You have to get approval from the other countries too. Let's see how much Germany and Italy will agree...

Germany and Italy have no technology for Eurofighter
The UK developed - produced Eurofighter .. based on British technology including engine

and no need to approve for British Eurofighters which already in service
The UK can sell Royal Air Force Eurofighters to Turkiye without any approval

We already have AESA,IRIS-T and Meteor

7 Rafale .. so funny

We already have 192 F-16 , 120km AIM-120C7 air to air missiles and Boeing E7-T AEWC for network centric warfare

We have already S400 and SIPER missiles to turn Greek Rafales into crap of metal

 

[Foinikas]

ALTAY Tank is not aviation project
and ALTAY Tank enter mass production with Korean in 2023

no any failed Turkish military project

Altay is supposed to be simpler than aviation projects.

Ah KOREAN ENGINE! WHAT A SUCCESFUL INDIGENOUS TURKISH PROJECT! "NO ANY FAILED TURKISH MILITARY PROJECT"

Germany and Italy have no technology for Eurofighter
The UK developed - produced Eurofighter .. based on British technology including engine

and no need to approve for British Eurofighters which already in service
The UK can sell Royal Air Force Eurofighters to Turkiye without any approval

"Dream...dreams are free"

7 Rafale .. so funny

And F-16Vs and F-16 Block 52+ and Block 52+ Adv. which will send you a nice IRIS-T

Ne mutlu Yunanliyim diyene!

We have already S400 and SIPER missiles to turn Greek Rafales into crap of metal

Turned off S-400s and untested,lower-quality SIPER.

 

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Ah KOREAN ENGINE! WHAT A SUCCESFUL INDIGENOUS TURKISH PROJECT! "NO ANY FAILED TURKISH MILITARY PROJECT"

Full of ignorant posts from jealous Greeks who develop nothing


Turkish BMC Tank engine is still under development
The first ignition test of the domestic 1500 HP tank engine BATU, developed by BMC POWER was carried out in April 2021

in 2024 Turkiye to start testing 1500 HP tank engine on ALTAY Tank

"Dream...dreams are free"

Yes daydreamer Greeks ...

And F-16Vs and F-16 Block 52+ and Block 52+ Adv. which will send you a nice IRIS-T

Ne mutlu Yunanliyim diyene!

only in your dreams

IRIS-T is shit with range of 25 km
even 100+ km Turkish GOKDOGAN air to air missiles to turn Greek dream into nightmare

Ne Mutlu Türküm diyene !

Turned off S-400s and untested,lower-quality SIPER.

250-380 km S400 is so superior to 160 km PATRIOT

and 100 km SIPER block-1 successfully hit the target from 93 km away which can turn Greek Fighter Jets into crap of metal

 

[Foinikas]

Full of ignorant posts from jealous Greeks who develop nothing

Your ridiculous posts,demand a ridiculous reply. If all you can do is boast like a 15 year-old Erdogan fanboy,then accept the criticism and stupid replies.

in 2024 Turkiye to start testing 1500 HP tank engine on ALTAY Tank

IN 2024 to start testing

Yes daydreamer Greeks ...

You're the one who dreams of future projects and bases his dreams of superiority on these projects.

IRIS-T is shit with range of 25 km

Then why did you even mention it in the first page? "AESA RADAR,IRIS-T,METEOR". If it's shit,then why do you want it?

even 100+ km Turkish GOKDOGAN air to air missiles to turn Greek dream into nightmare

EVEN imaginary Gokdogan is a futuristic project! Keep dreaming. Dreams are for free. You said it.

250-380 km S400 is so superior to 160 km PATRIOT

You're not even allowed to use that Oooh superior S-400,so strong because of range!

and 100 km SIPER block-1 successfully hit the target from 93 km away which can turn Greek Fighter Jets into crap of metal

Wow it hit a test target 93 km away? Did the target have counter-measures? Or was it just flying?



So tell me...if Turkey has all these amazing super-weapons, AIM-120C,Gokdogan,Siper,Hisar,Kizelelma,TFX,Akinci with 40 missiles and 500 laser weapons...

Why are you so obsessed with buying Eurofighters with Meteor? Why do you need more S-400s? Why do you want more weaponry? By your words,you're already a world-class superpower. You can destroy USA and Russia. Even China! Because let's not forget,according to you,Turkey has superior quality equipment than China.

 

[IblinI]

Your ridiculous posts,demand a ridiculous reply. If all you can do is boast like a 15 year-old Erdogan fanboy,then accept the criticism and stupid replies.


IN 2024 to start testing


You're the one who dreams of future projects and bases his dreams of superiority on these projects.


Then why did you even mention it in the first page? "AESA RADAR,IRIS-T,METEOR". If it's shit,then why do you want it?


EVEN imaginary Gokdogan is a futuristic project! Keep dreaming. Dreams are for free. You said it.


You're not even allowed to use that Oooh superior S-400,so strong because of range!


Wow it hit a test target 93 km away? Did the target have counter-measures? Or was it just flying?



So tell me...if Turkey has all these amazing super-weapons, AIM-120C,Gokdogan,Siper,Hisar,Kizelelma,TFX,Akinci with 40 missiles and 500 laser weapons...

Why are you so obsessed with buying Eurofighters with Meteor? Why do you need more S-400s? Why do you want more weaponry? By your words,you're already a world-class superpower. You can destroy USA and Russia. Even China! Because let's not forget,according to you,Turkey has superior quality equipment than China.

Lol, after a long break from pdf, you are still teasing this kid and the kid is still here.

 

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Your ridiculous posts,demand a ridiculous reply. If all you can do is boast like a 15 year-old Erdogan fanboy,then accept the criticism and stupid replies.

Erdogan is not a sport club ... Erdogan is president of Turkiye
and of course I will support president Erdogan who protect Turkiye and Turkish People against bandit USA-France and their terrorists/puppets PKK/YPG , FETO , Greece

ignorant troll team with stupid replies and lies

IN 2024 to start testing

its not a bike ... stupid troll team
its 1500 hp Tank engine ...
so what ? to start testing in a few months after the first ignition ?

of course development phase will take years

EVEN imaginary Gokdogan is a futuristic project! Keep dreaming. Dreams are for free. You said it.

another stupid post from jealous Greek .. you are so pathetic

imaginary Gokdogan is a futuristic project ?

GOKDOGAN and BOZDOGAN air to air missiles enter to inventory

Türkiye’nin ilk yerli hava füzeleri Gökdoğan ve Bozdoğan envantere giriyor

Savaş uçaklarının kullandığı, hava hedeflerini vurmak için kullanılan güdümlü füzeler teknolojik açıdan üretilmesi en zor silahlar arasında. Daha önce ABD'den alınan bu füzeleri TÜBİTAK SAGE yerli ve milli imkanlarla üretmeyi başardı. Emsallerinden daha üstün özelliklere sahip olan "uçak avcısı"...

www.defensehere.com

You're not even allowed to use that Oooh superior S-400,so strong because of range!

S400s in the inventory of the Turkish Armed Forces ...

and S400 is superior to PATRIOT in range , altitude and speed also 600 km superior Radar

Wow it hit a test target 93 km away? Did the target have counter-measures? Or was it just flying?

Greece has nothing its own

100 km range is enough to create no fly zone over Greek Islands which are 2-10-30 km away from Turkiye

and better worry about Turkish REDET-II Electronic Warfare System to jam and paralyze Greek Fighter Jets and Frigates

So tell me...if Turkey has all these amazing super-weapons, AIM-120C,Gokdogan,Siper,Hisar,Kizelelma,TFX,Akinci with 40 missiles and 500 laser weapons...

Why are you so obsessed with buying Eurofighters with Meteor? Why do you need more S-400s? Why do you want more weaponry? By your words,you're already a world-class superpower. You can destroy USA and Russia. Even China! Because let's not forget,according to you,Turkey has superior quality equipment than China.

Another childish post from Foinikas ..

If Turkiye had 50-70 TFX right now , then no need F-16V or Eurofighter
but TFX fleets will be combat ready in 2032-2035

and Turkiye needs more weaponry to match with multi-national threat on many fronts from Libya to Karabakh from Syria to Eastern Mediterranean

Greece buys Rafale
Egypt buys Rafale and Eurofighter
France also a threat in Libya,Syria and in the Eastern Mediterranean
even İran buys SU-35s

Then why did you even mention it in the first page? "AESA RADAR,IRIS-T,METEOR". If it's shit,then why do you want it?

so funny , not IRIS-T Missile
but IRST ( Infra Red Search & Track ) which can detect Fighter Jet from 90 km away

Russian SU-35's IRST detected American stealth F-22 over Syria


ignorant troll team Foinikas , retaxis , iblini and others

 

[Foinikas]

Lol, after a long break from pdf, you are still teasing this kid and the kid is still here.

Only one week

 

[Foinikas]

its not a bike ... stupid troll team
its 1500 hp Tank engine ...
so what ? to start testing in a few months after the first ignition ?

of course development phase will take years

Yes,you've been boasting about "no turkish project fail",you've been working on that tank since 2008 and despite all the technology transfer and bragging,you've hit dead-ends time and again. And there you are,again talking big and saying "IN 2024 TO START TESTING".

another stupid post from jealous Greek .. you are so pathetic

imaginary Gokdogan is a futuristic project ?

GOKDOGAN and BOZDOGAN air to air missiles enter to inventory

Jealous of what? Turkish experimental missiles? We have genuine American and French missiles in our inventory. Why should we be jealous?

S400s in the inventory of the Turkish Armed Forces ...

and S400 is superior to PATRIOT in range , altitude and speed also 600 km superior Radar

And you still are not allowed to use it. And you still don't know how much of a success the S-400 can be against Rafale with SPECTRA or even conventional equipment. Why? Because it had been advertised for years by Russia as the world's top AA system. On paper,it is one of the best systems right now. In reality? It has only been tested in real battle conditions less than a handful of times,while the Patriot has been tested heavily and through that experience it has been upgraded and modified.

But your main problem is that if you activate it,there will be sanctions from NATO. Can Turkey afford more sanctions?

Another childish post from Foinikas ..

If Turkiye had 50-70 TFX right now , then no need F-16V or Eurofighter
but TFX fleets will be combat ready in 2032-2035

Ah so now you spill the beans? You finally admit it and say "It will be combat ready in 2032-2035"?

Because all these months,all you've been saying is: "TFX,TFX,TFX...Turkiye superior 5th gen. stealth fighter,only a few countries in the world". We're not even in 2023. You're talking about 10-12 years in the future.

and Turkiye needs more weaponry to match with multi-national threat on many fronts from Libya to Karabakh from Syria to Eastern Mediterranean

You create threats yourselves. Your government finds "threats" and goes into other countries. Sit down and be peaceful and you won't need more weaponry.

Greece buys Rafale
Egypt buys Rafale and Eurofighter
France also a threat in Libya,Syria and in the Eastern Mediterranean
even İran buys SU-35s

Greece bought Rafale because of Erdogan's daily provocations and threats. You create this animosity and force others into arming themselves. You had no reason to be in Libya,you had no reason to meddle in Cyprus.

And now you're telling me that Iran is a threat to you.

so funny , not IRIS-T Missile
but IRST ( Infra Red Search & Track ) which can detect Fighter Jet from 90 km away

Russian SU-35's IRST detected American stealth F-22 over Syria


ignorant troll team Foinikas , retaxis , iblini and others

So funny,we have Rafale that can tear you apart and you can't even acknowledge that. All you say is "Oooh Turkiye can turn into pieces of scrap Greek fighters".

@F-22Raptor Check his claim on the F-22.

 

[Akritas]

@Foinikas the reason why Turkey has not purchased Eurofighter jets yet, is, on the one hand, the high cost of acquisition and operation, on the other hand, it knows very well will not get a Meteor missile, French MBDA it will not sell it to Turkey.