Military Balance of Turkish & Hellenic Air Forces in the Region

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The program to develop 83 + 38 Greek F-16 aircraft for the F-16 BLOCK 72 level The first two planes have already been received, and by the end of the year Greece will have received 6 planes, the rate of delivery is 12 fighters annually and will increase with the contract of 38 additional Greek planes

Greece will have 84 F-16 block70 until 2028
until 2028 , Turkiye itself will modernize 35+79 F-16s to block70 standard
and 40 new F-16V or Eurofighter

Turkiye is not weak countries Greece or Egypt which develop nothing

Thanks to great Turkish defense Industry ... ( Aselsan , Roketsan , TUBUTAK-SAGE )
Mission Computer
GaN based AESA Radar
IFF System
SPEWS-II Electronic Warfare Suite
ASELPOD nex gen Targeting Pod
GOKDOGAN,BOZDOGAN and GOKHAN air to air Missiles
SOM 5th gen stealth Cruise Missile ( land attack / anti-ship )

 

[nahtanbob]

Turkish Air Force Strength




Eurofighter Typhoon

Captor-E AESA Radar
IRST
METEOR Air to Air Missile

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Turkey does not have the Typhoon.

 

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Greece is in advanced negotiations to buy and deliver 20+20 F-35 aircraft, while Turkey has been expelled from the program
Rather, Greece requests its entry as a partner and benefit from the F-35 program, whether by supplying components manufactured in Greece for the benefit of the program or participating in it as an industrial partner.

If You are talking about 2028-2032

Greece may have 20+20 F-35s between 2028 and 2032


Turkiye has its own TFX Fighter Jet project

First flight : 2025
In service : 2029

also Turkiye has its own KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet

First flight : 2023
In service : 2025

and BAYKAR has production capability annually 36 KIZILELMA

in 2028 Turkiye to have min 72 KIZILELMA while Greece gets the first F-35

 

[Foinikas]

Full of lies and dreams ... nothing else

You're tragic.

If You are talking about 2028-2032

Greece may have 20+20 F-35s between 2028 and 2032


Turkiye has its own TFX Fighter Jet project

First flight : 2025
In service : 2029

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also Turkiye has its own KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet

First flight : 2023
In service : 2025

and BAYKAR has production capability annually 36 KIZILELMA

in 2028 Turkiye to have min 72 KIZILELMA while Greece gets the first F-35
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Future dreams of untested aircraft.

 

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Turkey does not have the Typhoon.

Nobody said Turkiye has Typhoon

I said Turkiye wants to buy F-16V from USA but if USA block sale of F-16V to Turkiye then Turkiye's option is Eurofighter Typhoon

Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar met with British Defense Minister Ben Wallace in London a few days ago

Turkiye has negotiations with The UK regarding Eurofighter

Turkey touts Eurofighter plan, should F-16 talks stall

Turkey has, for the first time, officially pronounced a possible purchase of Eurofighter Typhoons in case if the United States fails to sell Lockheed Martin F-16...

www.janes.com

 

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You're tragic.

You are real tragic who has wet dreams with tiny and weak Greece

Future dreams of untested aircraft.

Greeks have Future dreams of pathetic F-35s between 2028 and 2032


F-35s acquired by South Korea have been out of service 234 times in 18 months due to malfunctions, including 172 emergency landings.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1577302218398736384

Turks have no dreams but Turks have great defense Industry

Turkiye has put forward a new military doctrine in the world with TB-2 UCAVs
and 34+ Countries bought TB-2 also dozens of Countries are waiting for buying TB-2 UCAV

When KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet is on the market The world will show interest in Turkiye's unmanned stealth Fighter Jet , not in the F-35

 

[nahtanbob]

Nobody said Turkiye has Typhoon

I said Turkiye wants to buy F-16V from USA but if USA block sale of F-16V to Turkiye then Turkiye's option is Eurofighter Typhoon

Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar met with British Defense Minister Ben Wallace in London a few days ago

Turkiye has negotiations with The UK regarding Eurofighter

There is no assurance you get the Eurofighter

 

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We are talking about reality, not dreams
By the end of the year, Greece owns 12 fighters equipped with AESA radars, and receives new munitions from the United States and France, which increases monthly with the deliveries of upgraded or new aircraft.

Learn about military before dreaming about weak Greece

so pathetic only 12 Fighters


as of 2022 , Turkiye has 192 F-16 to use 600 km Radar of Boeing E-7T AEWC via link16 data link to detect Greek F-16V and Rafale from 350+ km away

F-16
link16 data link
120 km AIM-120C7 networked air to air Missile
600 km Radar of Boeing E-7T AEWC

Thanks to network centric warfare capability and $3,9 billion CCIP modernization

Greece has only 30 F-16 Block 52+ with this capability

Turkiye has 192 F-16s with this capability

 

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Greece signed a contract for the development of 45 T-6C aircraft to confront and hunt Turkish drones, as well as Greek fighters and air defense systems

Learn about military before dreaming about weak Greece


in a conflict , Turks will focus on to re-take Islands which are 2-10-30 km away from Turkiye

T-6C Aircrafts and Greek Airforce will be blocked by the Turkish Armed Forces
( F-16s , UCAVs , S400 and SIPER Air Defense Systems )


Even Turkish AKINCI UCAVs easly can hunt pathetic T-6C Aircrafts

Thanks to great Turkish defense Industry to arm AKINCI UCAVs with air to air missiles

-- 25 km BOZDOGAN air to air Missile
-- 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air Missile

7 AKINCI UCAVs armed with 42 GOKDOGAN air to air missiles to hunt 42 T-6C Aircrafts

 

[Foinikas]

There is no assurance you get the Eurofighter

As you can see,he lives in his own world,constantly bragging to himself about Turkey's superiority...

Sami wrote a big post,talked with logic and politeness and yet,MMM-E ignored it like always,rushed to call him a "liar" and went on to boast.

 

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The Greek Air Defense Force owns the air defense systems many years before Turkey, therefore Greece has good experience in this matter, in addition to the Greek continuous development program

The Turks had Nike Hercules systems, which were replaced by 24 HAWK systems, which were hit and destroyed 3-6 HAWK batteries at the Libyan Al-Wattia base
The Turks bought 4 S-400 batteries, and they are negotiating 2-4 more batteries. The effectiveness of the Russian systems in Turkey and even their activation is still a path of doubt

What a day dreamer with inferior weapons of the Greek Armed Forces

Greece has no its own air defense Systems

even PATRIOT and S300 will be destroyed by Turkish Ballistic - Cruise Missiles and anti-radiation kamikaze Drones in a day and GAME OVER !


Turkiye has developed its own Air Defense umbrella ( only a few countries in the world )

SUNGUR MANPADS
KORKUT 35 mm SPAAG
HISAR-A low altitude Air Defense System
HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense System
SIPER high altitude Air Defense System

Also Turkiye bought S400 which is so superior to Greece's PATRIOT Systems

36 launchers and 192 missiles with range of 250-380 km to block all Aegean

and 230+ F-16s with 4 Boeing E7-T AEWCs 7/24 ready to protect Turkish airspace

Dont confuse approaching Turkish airspace with approaching a 40 year old HAWK air defense system in the desert of Libya

 

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As you can see,he lives in his own world,constantly bragging to himself about Turkey's superiority...

Sami wrote a big post,talked with logic and politeness and yet,MMM-E ignored it like always,rushed to call him a "liar" and went on to boast.

Yes SAMI is a liar and ignorant ...learn about military before dreaming

I blocked his all lies ... read my posts and learn about reality


1 -- He says Greek F-16s are 10 year younger than Turkish F-16s

REALITY
Hellenic Air Force
F-16 block30 : 1989-1990
F-16 block50 : 1997-1998
F-16 block52 : 2002-2010

Turkish Air Force
F-16 block30 : 1987-1990
F-16 block50 : 1996-1999
F-16 block50+ : 2011-2012

F-16 block40 : 1990-1994

And Turkiye spent $3,9 billion to modernize 163 F-16 block40/50 to block52 standard between 2011 and 2015



2 -- He says Greece gets F-16Vs but Turkiye no

REALITY
Greece will have 84 F-16 block70 until 2028

until 2028 , Turkiye itself will modernize 35+79 F-16s to block70 standard
and 40 new F-16V or Eurofighter

Turkiye is not weak countries Greece or Egypt which develop nothing

Thanks to great Turkish defense Industry ... ( Aselsan , Roketsan , TUBUTAK-SAGE )
Mission Computer
GaN based AESA Radar
IFF System
SPEWS-II Electronic Warfare Suite
ASELPOD nex gen Targeting Pod
GOKDOGAN,BOZDOGAN and GOKHAN air to air Missiles
SOM 5th gen stealth Cruise Missile ( land attack / anti-ship )


3-- He says Greece gets 12 Fighter Jets with AESA Radar

REALITY
so pathetic only 12 Fighters

as of 2022 , Turkiye has 192 F-16 to use 600 km Radar of Boeing E-7T AEWC via link16 data link to detect Greek F-16V and Rafale from 350+ km away

F-16
link16 data link
120 km AIM-120C7 networked air to air Missile
600 km Radar of Boeing E-7T AEWC

Thanks to network centric warfare capability and $3,9 billion CCIP modernization

Greece has only 30 F-16 Block 52+ with this capability
Turkiye has 192 F-16s with this capability


4 -- He is talking about 45 T6-C Aircrafts to hunt Turkish UCAVs

REALITY
Even Turkish AKINCI UCAVs easly can hunt pathetic T-6C Aircrafts

Thanks to great Turkish defense Industry to arm AKINCI UCAVs with air to air missiles

-- 25 km BOZDOGAN air to air Missile
-- 100+ km GOKDOGAN air to air Missile

7 AKINCI UCAVs armed with 42 GOKDOGAN air to air missiles to hunt 42 T-6C Aircrafts


5 -- He says Turkiye has only HAWK AD Systems

REALITY
Turkiye has developed its own Air Defense umbrella ( only a few countries in the world )

SUNGUR MANPADS
KORKUT 35 mm SPAAG
HISAR-A low altitude Air Defense System
HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense System
SIPER high altitude Air Defense System

Also Turkiye bought S400 which is so superior to Greece's PATRIOT Systems

36 launchers and 192 missiles with range of 250-380 km to block all Aegean

 

[Foinikas]

REALITY
Turkiye has developed its own Air Defense umbrella ( only a few countries in the world )

SUNGUR MANPADS
KORKUT 35 mm SPAAG
HISAR-A low altitude Air Defense System
HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense System
SIPER high altitude Air Defense System

so pathetic only 12 Fighters

You don't even have 1 re malaka!

7 AKINCI UCAVs armed with 42 GOKDOGAN air to air missiles to hunt 42 T-6C Aircrafts

Yes,arm them first and then we talk.

Thanks to great Turkish defense Industry ... ( Aselsan , Roketsan , TUBUTAK-SAGE )
Mission Computer
GaN based AESA Radar
IFF System
SPEWS-II Electronic Warfare Suite
ASELPOD nex gen Targeting Pod
GOKDOGAN,BOZDOGAN and GOKHAN air to air Missiles
SOM 5th gen stealth Cruise Missile ( land attack / anti-ship )

Dubious quality

@Akritas He keeps going on about link16

until 2028 , Turkiye itself will modernize 35+79 F-16s to block70 standard
and 40 new F-16V or Eurofighter

HOW? YOU DON'T KNOW THAT! THAT'S WHAT HE SAID! YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A DEAL YET!

F-16
link16 data link
120 km AIM-120C7 networked air to air Missile
600 km Radar of Boeing E-7T AEWC

Thanks to network centric warfare capability and $3,9 billion CCIP modernization

Greece has only 30 F-16 Block 52+ with this capability
Turkiye has 192 F-16s with this capability

You so stewpid Kotol! @Akritas Check it out

 

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There is no assurance you get the Eurofighter

If Turkiye want to get Eurofighter , then 100% possibility

not only new Eurofighter Tranche 3 or Tranche 4
but also The UK is offering to sell Eurofighter Tranche 1 to Turkiye
( Royal Air Force has 30 Eurofighter Tranche 1 )

Turkiye can buy 24 Eurofighter Tranche 1 and modernize it with the UK in a short time

British Eurofighter Tranche 1 rated only 2.500 hours of 6.000 airframe life
and Eurofighter would give Turkiye an edge in the next 10 years to develop the TFX

230+ F-16
24 modernized Eurofighter with METEOR air to air missiles
also KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jets

That would be a great buy as a gap filler until the TFX fleets in 2032-2035

btw The UK is working with Turkiye ( TFX Fighter Jet project with turbofan engine development )

 

[nahtanbob]

If Turkiye want to get Eurofighter , then 100% possibility

not only new Eurofighter Tranche 3 or Tranche 4
but also The UK is offering to sell Eurofighter Tranche 1 to Turkiye
( Royal Air Force has 30 Eurofighter Tranche 1 )

Turkiye can buy 24 Eurofighter Tranche 1 and modernize it with the UK in a short time

British Eurofighter Tranche 1 rated only 2.500 hours of 6.000 airframe life
and Eurofighter would give Turkiye an edge in the next 10 years to develop the TFX

230+ F-16
24 modernized Eurofighter with METEOR air to air missiles
also KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jets

That would be a great buy as a gap filler until the TFX fleets in 2032-2035

btw The UK is working with Turkiye ( TFX Fighter Jet project with turbofan engine developing )

There are 3 other countries that need to approve -- Germany, Spain and Italy